Atlantic Canadian Politics Thread

[drewber]

Originally Posted by Sunnybrae

Wow, Looks like she won the lotto. https://lop.parl.ca/sites/ParlInfo/default/en_CA/People/Salaries

89k to 178k isn't exactly a lottery winning increase. I'm sure a lot of us would love our saleries doubling though

[Sunnybrae]

Originally Posted by drewber

89k to 178k isn't exactly a lottery winning increase. I'm sure a lot of us would love our saleries doubling though

Over how many years? Plus the perks and the pension? Not that she should not be appointed but seriously, its a big win for most people.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7477413

https://338canada.com/13008e.htm

It’s looking more and more like Wayne Long will win his fourth term in office.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7477413

https://338canada.com/13008e.htm

It’s looking more and more like Wayne Long will win his fourth term in office.

No surprise. Jeff Steeves was told not to bother last summer. It is a little surprising (and nice to see) that the local president isn't going to stand for having Melissa Young rammed down the local raiding association's throat.

I'm a generally a CPC supporter although not died in the wool. It annoys me too. To the point I might even vote for Long or maybe just stay home

[lirette]

My understanding is that there is similar nefarious behaviours going on in relation to the new candidate in Abbotsford.

[sailor734]

It's certainly not unheard of. The Liberals have done it too on occasion.....doesn't make it right or less objectionable.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

The parachute candidate is at least originally from NB right?

While the military guy is a “come from away” I think?


This whole situation really makes Wayne Long look like a bit of a mastermind. He looks really good as one of the first MPs to call for Trudeau’s resignation, and he played a big part in getting more people signed up and verified to vote vote in the Liberal leadership contest than any other riding in Atlantic Canada.

In the last election, him living in KV might have hurt him with some voters within the city of Saint John. As far as I know, he keeps a residence Uptown, but also spends a lot of time in KV, the latter of which is going to help him shore up votes in the riding outside the City of Saint John proper.

I think Wayne Long could end up being named the next Minister of Transport in the upcoming cabinet shuffle. Since Anand is not reoffering, giving Wayne that post could all but lock up the riding for the LPC in Saint John, and further solidly their advances in Atlantic Canada. If such a move happened, (keeping in mind that the Port of Saint John is now divided between two ridings), the Liberals could even make a legitimate attempt for the neighbouring Saint John—Saint Croix riding currently held by John Williamson, by recruiting a really strong candidate like David Alston, and running on the importance of continued investment into the Port of Saint John for the economic growth of the entire riding.



Support for the LPC is higher in Atlantic Canada than any other region in Canada. I think a major move, like making Wayne Long the minister of Transport in the upcoming cabinet shuffle, could have a spillover effect that could quite possibly win the LPC two seats that were considered near impossibilities a few months ago. Some might consider such a promotion just one more example of Wayne Long failing upwards, but I think he earned it by being one of the most vocal MPs leading the push for JT to resign. Whether one likes him or not, it’s hard to deny that Wayne Long been an effective MP for Saint John… and even if he’s not cut from the same cloth as the typical cabinet minister, I think he could make an effective minister of transport and be the right type of sloganeering campaigner needed in this trade war and existential fight for Canada’s sovereignty.




Long says he wants to turn Saint John into the finest port city in the G7 while we have a long way to go to catch up with the likes of Rotterdam, New York, or Savanah… I admire the optimism and willingness to think big.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

From the main Canada forum… looks like CPC support in Atlantic Canada has been absolutely decimated by the ongoing trade war and existential crisis brought on by Trump. I guess PP and the CPC are just too similar to Trump and the Republicans for a lot of voters in Atlantic Canada.

It was the stuff of fantasy to suggest the Liberals could win a riding like Saint John—St. Croix not even a month ago… it’s now looking like an entirely plausible outcome. The same can be said for many other ridings across Atlantic Canada that were considered solidly blue a very short while ago.

Even if EKOS polling tends to favour the LPC, this points to an undeniable, staggering shift in support among voters in Atlantic Canada. To see CPC support dip below that of the NDP (a party which doesn’t hold a single seat in Atlantic Canada) is nothing short of astonishing. It seems a lot of people in Atlantic Canada were going to vote CPC to vote against Trudeau… now it seems a lot of Atlantic Canadians are going to vote LPC to vote against Pierre Poilievre… and Donald Trump.

The Carney bump seems to be the real deal in Atlantic Canada, and it’s evident in multiple recent polls.

[CharlotteCountyLogan]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

The parachute candidate is at least originally from NB right?

While the military guy is a “come from away” I think?


This whole situation really makes Wayne Long look like a bit of a mastermind. He looks really good as one of the first MPs to call for Trudeau’s resignation, and he played a big part in getting more people signed up and verified
to vote vote in the Liberal leadership contest than any other riding in Atlantic Canada.

In the last election, him living in KV might have hurt him with some voters within the city of Saint John. As far as I know, he keeps a residence Uptown, but also spends a lot of time in KV, the latter of which is going to help him shore up votes in the riding outside the City of Saint John proper.


I think Wayne Long could end up being named the next Minister of Transport in the upcoming cabinet shuffle. Since Anand is not reoffering, giving Wayne that post could all but lock up the riding for the LPC in Saint John, and further solidly their advances in Atlantic Canada. If such a move happened, (keeping in mind that the Port of Saint John is now divided between two ridings), the Liberals could even make a legitimate attempt for the
neighbouring Saint John—Saint Croix riding currently
held by John Williamson, by recruiting a really strong
candidate like David Alston, and running on the
importance of continued investment into the Port of
Saint John for the economic growth of the entire riding.



Support for the LPC is higher in Atlantic Canada than any
other region in Canada. I think a major move, like
making Wayne Long the minister of Transport in the
upcoming cabinet shuffle, could have a spillover effect
that could quite possibly win the LPC two seats that
were considered near impossibilities a few months ago.
Some might consider such a promotion just one more
example of Wayne Long failing upwards, but I think he
earned it by being one of the most vocal MPs leading the
push for JT to resign. Whether one likes him or not, it’s
hard to deny that Wayne Long been an effective MP for
Saint John… and even if he’s not cut from the same
cloth as the typical cabinet minister, I think he could
make an effective minister of transport and be the right
type of sloganeering campaigner needed in this trade
war and existential fight for Canada’s sovereignty.



Long says he wants to turn Saint John into the finest port city in the G7 while we have a long way to go to catch up with the likes of Rotterdam, New York, or
Savanah… I admire the optimism and willingness to think
big.

In Saint Croix-Saint John (which i think is a ridiculous riding) Karen Ludwig who was MP here from 2015-2019 is running again for the Liberals and it's unlikely the Liberals have a contested convention. For the Liberals to win the riding it would take nothing short of a miracle. West SJ could be a big vote getter for the Liberals, however I can't see it and Williamson does really well in the rural.

[MonctonRad]

Colour me surprised - Ginette Petitpas-Taylor is still in cabinet, depite the severe pruning Prime Minister Carney did to the size of the cabinet. She is President of the Treasury Board.

Greater Moncton continues to have two federal cabinet ministers (Petitpas-Taylor and Dominic LeBlanc at International Trade and Intergovernmental Affairs as well as President of the King's Canadian Privy Council).

[drewber]

Pierre ran on the motto of Axe the Tax. Now that it's Axed by the new PM how will he pivot with an upcoming election more than likely in the next month and a half or so?

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by drewber

Pierre ran on the motto of Axe the Tax. Now that it's Axed by the new PM how will he pivot with an upcoming election more than likely in the next month and a half or so?

Yep, he has a lot invested in driving his Ax the Tax message. An investment that has zero value now. It could be an interesting 6 weeks.

I think what the CPC really needs to do is effectively link all the old Trudeau ministers running again to JT and the the past 9 years. A sort of "Meet the new management, same as the old management" sort of thing. If PP tries to make it all about Carney he could be in trouble. Carney came across as calm, moderate and quite likable in his press interactions today. Not nearly as condescending and smug as Trudeau.

[lirette]

Originally Posted by drewber

Pierre ran on the motto of Axe the Tax. Now that it's Axed by the new PM how will he pivot with an upcoming election more than likely in the next month and a half or so?

Not sure how closely you follow his campaign stuff but I can assure you he's just going to double down and keep calling him Carbon Tax Carney anyways. He's running with this idea that they can bring it back whenever they want. Will this be effective to anyone besides his base? Uhh....I'm not so sure but YMMV

[ivegotaname]

What laws should we abandon? What changes should we make to move this country in twenty first century

[ivegotaname]

I hope EU select Canada as a member. Good bye america

[Taeolas]

From comments I'm seeing elsewhere, it looks like everyone is gearing up for the election call later this week.

338's Atlantic projections are painting a very red picture at the moment

Granted they're fed by polls that have t he Carney bump; but considering how blue the picture was a few months ago, this can't be good for the Conservatives.

At the moment, ONLY Tobique-Mactaquac is safe for the Conservatives (Sadly it's where I grew up and I don't see that changing colours any time soon; but my parents keep doing what they can to change things).

Even the Saint John is only "CPC Likely" at the moment (and LPC leaning for SJ-Kennebecasis).

What ridings will be considered the bellweather ridings on Election night? I get the feeling a lot of attention will be on Freddy-Oromocto and the SJ ridings, among others.

I think Denika has already said she won't be running again, so we'll have a slate of newbies running in Fredericton. Freddy's shed more of its rural areas so that should be a stronger showing for the LPC there too, but it's still somewhat conservative.

[sailor734]

Atlantic Canada more naturally trends liberal when it comes to federal politics anyway. Take Trudeau out of the equation, replace him with a leader who comes across (at least so far) as likable, moderate and pragmatic and it's no surprise the historic CPC lead evaporated.

I'm not sure the liberal bump will carry right through to election day but it is certainly a huge turn around.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

and less than a 1% chance of a CPC majority.

[Taeolas]

I'm shocked.... With the latest polls in, the CPC has NO Safe seats left in Atlantic Canada.

Fundy-Royal and Tobique-Mactaquac are both now "CPC Likely". Granted Tobique-Mactaquac is still 98% chance to go CPC, but still, it's quite a fall in general.

That said I still think this is just a Carney bump in the polls. Once the campaign happens he'll surely drop down. But a Liberal Minority feels very likely now one way or another.

[sailor734]

CPC has a big warchest and normally once they find a chink in Carney's armor and get a purchase the attack ads would work. You would normally think that once the campaign starts the Carney bump would ebb. Now, in today's environment, I'm not so sure.

Trump has really upended the race and soured a huge number of Canadians on anything connected to "conservatism"