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Cmon, we're all missing the obvious here: The first "e" is pronounced like "eh"
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Cmon, we're all missing the obvious here: The first "e" is pronounced like "eh"
“Eh” said like someone from the United States or from Canada, eh?

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“Eh” said like someone from the United States or from Canada, eh?

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Gonna assume the latter.
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What about da Yooper, eh?

I see Buckeye prints all over the plot to not even put the UP maps.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...p/71918261007/

Even got the White House in on it at one point I bet there were at least 10,000 Yoopers that if their country did the bare minimum & included them on the map … Eh, I’m not going there actually.

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Yeah sorry about that. You can have Toledo back if you want?
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You’re killing me man we’re supposed to fight over this. Then I back off after calling out Ohio & Indiana for using their weight as states against a territory. If Michigan got Toledo back Wisconsin would start making all kinds of noises about the western UP being theirs & I wouldn’t get to gloat about how beautiful & mineral rich it is. No bueno.

In all seriousness I had family in the Toledo area & downtown was impressive if dead back then while the neighborhoods next to University of Toledo on the way to its cool zoo were nice. My sister lives in Valparaiso Indiana quick jaunt to Indiana Dunes and Chicago transit.

If the levels of phosphorus & nitrogen could get back to 80’s-90’s levels Toledo would be a sportsman’s paradise. An attractive waterfront working and recreational wouldn’t bring Toledo into the race of the 3 C’s but it has a great downtown to build out from.

Lake Erie was blue back in the 80’s & 90’s when it was the comeback lake, the poster child for the clean water act. There is this internationally award winning documentary called The Erie Situation really delves into the issue. The dominance of the agriculture lobby in the Ohio Legislature has allowed a proliferation of “smaller” concentrated animal feed lots off setting the work being done by small local farmers switching to best organic practices.
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You’re killing me man we’re supposed to fight over this. Then I back off after calling out Ohio & Indiana for using their weight as states against a territory. If Michigan got Toledo back Wisconsin would start making all kinds of noises about the western UP being theirs & I wouldn’t get to gloat about how beautiful & mineral rich it is. No bueno.

In all seriousness I had family in the Toledo area & downtown was impressive if dead back then while the neighborhoods next to University of Toledo on the way to its cool zoo were nice. My sister lives in Valparaiso Indiana quick jaunt to Indiana Dunes and Chicago transit.

If the levels of phosphorus & nitrogen could get back to 80’s-90’s levels Toledo would be a sportsman’s paradise. An attractive waterfront working and recreational wouldn’t bring Toledo into the race of the 3 C’s but it has a great downtown to build out from.

Lake Erie was blue back in the 80’s & 90’s when it was the comeback lake, the poster child for the clean water act. There is this internationally award winning documentary called The Erie Situation really delves into the issue. The dominance of the agriculture lobby in the Ohio Legislature has allowed a proliferation of “smaller” concentrated animal feed lots off setting the work being done by small local farmers switching to best organic practices.
In all seriousness, I am surprised there hasn't been a movement from Wisconsin wanting the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It would make Wisconsin look like an even more fucked up shaped Minnesota.
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^^these is a small independent statehood movement among Yoopers^^

Very few of the state borders make any sort of geographic sense and even our international borders are largely indefensible messes that do not seriously take advantage of natural geography at all. Wisconsin and the UP are only one example.
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In all seriousness, I am surprised there hasn't been a movement from Wisconsin wanting the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It would make Wisconsin look like an even more fucked up shaped Minnesota.
In the past there's been talk of making northern Wisconsin and the UP one state. Occasionally it also included northern Minnesota.
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In the past there's been talk of making northern Wisconsin and the UP one state. Occasionally it also included northern Minnesota.
So basically the State of Jefferson. Interesting.
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The Western UP, culturally, is Wisconsin. Same accent, Packers fans, they drive to Milwaukee for a big city, etc.

Eastern UP, no. East of Marquette is more standard Michigan.
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The Western UP, culturally, is Wisconsin. Same accent, Packers fans, they drive to Milwaukee for a big city, etc.

Eastern UP, no. East of Marquette is more standard Michigan.
So Rt. 41 is the line. Makes sense.
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I've heard of the UP plan to break away from Michigan and form the new "State of Superior".

But with only ~300K people, it would be roughly half the size of the current smallest state Wyoming.

If it ever did happen, I imagine Marquette, as the largest "city" in the UP, would be chosen as the state capital, which would make it the first US state capital on the shore of a great lake (though Ontario's provincial capital is Toronto).


Probably ain't ever happening.
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You’re killing me man we’re supposed to fight over this. Then I back off after calling out Ohio & Indiana for using their weight as states against a territory. If Michigan got Toledo back Wisconsin would start making all kinds of noises about the western UP being theirs & I wouldn’t get to gloat about how beautiful & mineral rich it is. No bueno.
Wasn't the entire UP supposed to go to Wisconsin? Honestly, it makes sense for the UP to be in Wisconsin since they are contiguous. I think Michigan and Virginia are the only states with peninsulas that are not connected to the rest of their respective states.
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Wasn't the entire UP supposed to go to Wisconsin? Honestly, it makes sense for the UP to be in Wisconsin since they are contiguous. I think Michigan and Virginia are the only states with peninsulas that are not connected to the rest of their respective states.
Washington says hold my beer. And Minnesota. And probably Vermont.
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Washington says hold my beer. And Minnesota. And probably Vermont.
Are you counting Minnesota because of that small exclave across the lake?
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