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Old Posted Jan 25, 2024, 2:14 PM
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Why is this posted in the Olympic Stadium thread? LOL (SARCASM).

Seriously is it mandatory for Toronto area teams to relocate every decade or so?
The GTA is a tough market for the OHL. Mississauga is tough specifically because of its arena location. What surprises me, however, is the move to Brampton, which also has huge problems retaining teams.
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Good ol' Northlands Coliseum aka Rexall Place, Skyreach Centre

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Good ol' Northlands Coliseum aka Rexall Place, Skyreach Centre
While I could probably look this up, I'd rather ask and keep the Non-O conversation flowing

What is it being used for today? And are there plans for its future??
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While I could probably look this up, I'd rather ask and keep the Non-O conversation flowing

What is it being used for today? And are there plans for its future??
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The GTA is a tough market for the OHL. Mississauga is tough specifically because of its arena location. What surprises me, however, is the move to Brampton, which also has huge problems retaining teams.
So much competition for the entertainment dollar too.

In smaller and more isolated places, when an OHL team is literally "the only game in town" people support it passionately. This seems to be what's happening with the now-displaced Hamilton Bulldogs in Brantford. And to be honest I hope they can make a home there, hopefully in a new arena!

I don't think they'll ever be treated the same level of attention by Hamiltonians. But especially not by the new operators of a renovated FirstOntario Centre or whatever corporate moniker it assumes.
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Ugh. Well I hope the redevelopment is as "vibrant and welcoming" as planned!

Progress. Onward ----->>>
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I am pretty sure an announcement about the Big O will be made on a Friday. Bad news announcements are usually made on Fridays so politicians can escape media scrutiny while the news dies over the weekend.

Don't understand what is the point of spending so much money just to increase a stadium size by a few thousand seats, was done for Mcgill, now you want to do the same with Saputo Stadium ?

To do that and Also improve Olympic Stadium is a waste of money.

If they need more seating, you have a 56,000 seat stadium sitting there pending of course massive improvements.

The Whitecaps and Lions had thought of a new stadium in Surrey and opted to stay with BC Place. Why is this situation so different ? Same leagues involved.

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Jay McNeil: long-term viability of Calgary Stampeders dependent on new stadium

Jay McNeil, the new president of the Calgary Stampeders, believes that a new stadium is necessary to ensure the long-term viability of the club he’s been tasked with leading after taking over from John Hufnagel this past week.

“When you look at it from a fan experience perspective, expectations continue to grow on what fans want when they come to a game, as they should. I think the long-term viability of this club will depend upon a new stadium,” the 53-year-old told 3DownNation via telephone on Friday.

“When you talk about a stadium that’s as old as ours is, it’s made of concrete and it’s exposed to these harsh winters. The amount of restoration that goes in every year to make sure that the concrete is maintained is significant, and that’s just the structural piece to it.”

McNeil identified filling McMahon Stadium as the club’s top goal aside from winning a Grey Cup. The team’s average attendance dropped from 30,376 in 2015 to 21,698 in 2023, the largest decrease of any team in the CFL. McNeil also revealed that Calgary’s season ticket base has declined by 36 percent over that span, a trend he called “alarming.” The club failed to stop the bleeding in 2023 as attendance fell by 7.5 percent from 2022.

“We’ve been so successful for so long just from the business side of things, it’s always worked. Well, it’s not working anymore, so we need to think of different ways in which we manage our business, and that even applies on the football side of things, too. How do we recruit new players? How do we identify new players? Let’s be innovative and let’s think of new and better ways to do our business,” said McNeil.

“We got some feedback in 2022 from our season ticket holders that did cancel and that was some pretty hard feedback to hear, but it was also really important because we took what we heard and we invested in our season ticket holders and in fan growth and in fan engagement for 2023. Although it didn’t transfer into the results we were expecting or hoping for from the business perspective, I think we really planted a lot of seeds in 2023 that are going to be fundamental for the Stampeders to be able to grow their business in the future.”

McNeil admitted that the outdated nature of McMahon Stadium posed more of a challenge than he’d initially anticipated when it came to winning fans back. He highlighted the concourses and bathrooms as two of the facility’s main shortcomings but praised the venue’s sightlines and atmosphere. He also bemoaned the lack of a viewing area designed to cater to young fans, though the team plans to add one in the near future.

“Not everybody wants to sit in a seat for three hours, so we really do need to create an area where somebody can come and stand and watch the game,” he said. “We will do something, we have to do something, so whether it’s a more permanent solution — a renovation — or it’s something that’s a little more temporary, we need to create something to bring that generation of fan in.”

McNeil credited leadership from other teams across the CFL for their willingness to share successful practices to help engage fans. One strategy the team implemented not long after McNeil joined the club in 2022 as their vice-president of business operations was to invite fans onto the field after games, which came from Winnipeg Blue Bombers’ president and CEO Wade Miller.

The initiative improved the flow of postgame traffic and provided guests the chance to run around, throw footballs, and take photos. It was so popular that Calgary allowed fans onto the field four times in 2023.

“On the field, we are there to win and we are there to beat each other, but off the field, we need each other,” said McNeil. “Everybody has been and is incredibly collaborative in helping each other succeed. Not that I expected anything different, but it really is, ‘We are in this together.'”

McNeil indicated that he’s aiming for 10 to 15 percent growth in ticket sales in 2024, which would put Calgary’s average attendance between 24,000 and 25,000 per game. The goal may seem ambitious, though the B.C. Lions have proven it’s attainable.

B.C. saw attendance increase by 14.5 percent from 2019 to 2022 and another 13.8 percent from 2022 to 2023. The team’s attendance figure from 2021 has been omitted as it was subject to COVID-19 restrictions. Regardless, the right combination of marketing and fan engagement can evidently produce fast results.

Calgary’s attendance didn’t collapse overnight and McNeil realizes it’ll take time to get the Stampeders back to their former status near the top of the league’s rankings.

“We don’t expect we’re going to sell out every game next year, I’d be delusional if I thought that was the case. … Our season ticket base was 13,832 in 2023, we want to build it up to 14,750 in 2024 and we want to see similar-type growth in the different ticket lanes,” he said. “I have higher expectations than that, personally. I think we can do so much.”

McNeil trumpeted his team’s commitment to the community as the primary reason why fans should return to McMahon Stadium and support the club. He indicated the Stampeders did 422 player appearances and 570 hours of community service in 2023, helping assist a number of local causes.

“My ask of any Calgarian is to buy one ticket to one game, that’s all we need,” he said. “If you think about McMahon Stadium, the capacity is 35,000. Not including playoffs, that’s 10 home games, so 350,000 tickets. We need 25 percent of Calgarians to buy one ticket to one game to sell out every game. When you think about it from that perspective, you go, ‘Huh, that’s not so insurmountable.’ It’s about creating awareness, compelling fans to come to the stadium, and figuring out how we do that.”

McNeil declined to comment on a possible timeline for a new stadium, as there are currently no formal plans in the works. He promised to work diligently to ensure the 63-year-old venue is replaced at some point to provide fans with a better game-day experience and ensure the club’s long-term viability.

“We are going to pursue all options in terms of having discussions about a new stadium. That is something that just has to happen, so we will do everything we can to make that happen,” he said. “I think even just the approval process — I think we all can learn from the events that are here in Calgary — it takes time, and it takes time to get all the right people in the room talking and moving this forward. I think it would be premature to pick a timeline but to say that we are going to pursue it as best we can.”

In the meantime, McNeil has full faith in Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation (CSEC), the group that has been the majority owner of the Stampeders since 2012.

“CSEC has been nothing but supportive and they want us to succeed on and off the field and have given us the resources to do that,” he said. “I love the relationship we have with them. Huf and I are on the CSEC management team and they are integrated in our business and doing everything they can to help us succeed.”

The Calgary Flames are getting a new arena as part of the Calgary Event Centre, which was announced last year. The facility is expected to open in 2027, well over a decade after the team initially sought funding for a new venue.

Hopefully, the Stampeders won’t need to wait that long for a replacement for McMahon Stadium. And, if they do, here’s hoping the club will still be around to play in it.
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Good ol' Northlands Coliseum aka Rexall Place, Skyreach Centre
Such a special building. Truly one of the most iconic arenas in Canadian sports history outshined only by maple leafs stadium and the forum.

Pacific Arena,saddledome,Pepsi colisee, Civic center and Winnipeg arena surely wont have the same legacy "rex" leaves behind. Although, when I'm sitting in rogers place I don't look around and think....Man I miss Rexall, It holds such a special place in my heart as an Oilers fan. One of the loudest most intimate arenas ever built.

Its So odd to me that arenas have lost that personality and specialness to the community. Arenas don't feel like they belong to the team like rexall did the Oilers and fans. A Modern arena like Scotiabank or rogers place, built in the right Location will last 100+ years, but will they share any sentimental value to the fans? Will their be a push to save scotiabank like their was maple leaf gardens? I doubt it.

I often wonder If a team like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver or for that matter Winnipeg and Edmonton will ever play in a new arena again? These buildings will never crumble, They were build strong and flexible enough to reconfigure and expand, And with arenas costing upwards of a Billion, which canadian cities would even want to build?.

Lets be real the Only reason Ottawa is even pushing for a new arena is location. CTT could easily be rogers place with a 200M renovation. I remember watching an interview with melnyk when he said "these buildings aren't meant to last forever". I just laughed because they really are. Dry steel and concrete is really the recipe for longevity. Really they will just continue to get more structurally sound over time.

Calgary is a different story. Saddledome was built 10 years too early. It just missed the modern era of arena design.

Canada life Center is the Interesting one for me. 130M to Build, 130M to Renovate.....800M to Replace. Theirs no shot Winnipeg is ever gonna see another arena in our life time. We truly may be witnessing the end of Arena construction over the next decade or so. Whos going to construct an arena for 2 billion in 2040 that's not for downtown New York or LA?
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Well try telling that to people in the US. Oklahoma is replacing their 30 year arena with a new $900 million (or higher) arena. Nashville will be getting a $2 billion domed stadium to replace their perfectly adequate stadium. Texas recently replaced their perfectly fine 25 year old baseball stadium with a $1 billion domed stadium.

Rogers renovations to Rogers Centre will supposedly be good for 10 - 13 years at which point they will try to get funding for a new stadium elsewhere...no doubt trying to leverage the taxpayer for the majority of the funding. Good luck with that Rogers!
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Well try telling that to people in the US. Oklahoma is replacing their 30 year arena with a new $900 million (or higher) arena. Nashville will be getting a $2 billion domed stadium to replace their perfectly adequate stadium. Texas recently replaced their perfectly fine 25 year old baseball stadium with a $1 billion domed stadium.

Rogers renovations to Rogers Centre will supposedly be good for 10 - 13 years at which point they will try to get funding for a new stadium elsewhere...no doubt trying to leverage the taxpayer for the majority of the funding. Good luck with that Rogers!
Domes versus not. Turns out with climate change and tv schedules not tolerating rescheduling as much it is really worth it.

OKC built the smallest of ‘modern’ arenas.

I suspect Vancouver will be exploring for a new arena soonish. My guess would be that it goes on land they’ve envisioned for condos for a long time right nearby but that requires way too much environmental remediation plus city development fees to make viable for residential.

In Toronto I wonder if they start with a new roof over the entire site first if they can phase redevelopment without missing a season. Seattle’s ballpark when walking around it is noticeable that it is 4 or more buildings not a single monolith.
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In Toronto I wonder if they start with a new roof over the entire site first if they can phase redevelopment without missing a season. Seattle’s ballpark when walking around it is noticeable that it is 4 or more buildings not a single monolith.
I think they won't miss a season because they will build a completely new stadium on a new site. The current site is ideal with everything all built up around it but they would have to vacate for a few years to rebuild there. Short of another pandemic that forces them out for a few years, they aren't going to willingly go play in Buffalo for 3 seasons while they demolish and rebuild at the current site.

After they move to their new park, I can see MLSE (which will be entirely under Rogers by then I believe) building a new arena on the Rogers Centre site, and I could see them keeping both arenas operating. Renovate Scotiabank into a Raptors dedicated building (as it was originally designed for anyway), a new WNBA team and concerts, the new arena slightly larger for the Leafs and also for concerts. I don't think there is any doubt Toronto can support 2 large scale arenas and Rogers really will have no reason to cede business to Hamilton, who fancies their soon to be renovated arena as the Scotiabank overflow.
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I think they won't miss a season because they will build a completely new stadium on a new site. The current site is ideal with everything all built up around it but they would have to vacate for a few years to rebuild there. Short of another pandemic that forces them out for a few years, they aren't going to willingly go play in Buffalo for 3 seasons while they demolish and rebuild at the current site.

After they move to their new park, I can see MLSE (which will be entirely under Rogers by then I believe) building a new arena on the Rogers Centre site, and I could see them keeping both arenas operating. Renovate Scotiabank into a Raptors dedicated building (as it was originally designed for anyway), a new WNBA team and concerts, the new arena slightly larger for the Leafs and also for concerts. I don't think there is any doubt Toronto can support 2 large scale arenas and Rogers really will have no reason to cede business to Hamilton, who fancies their soon to be renovated arena as the Scotiabank overflow.
There were plans, a few years ago and definitely pre-pandemic, to do a phased rebuild that would add residential buildings and open up views towards Lake Ontario. But I think that project got canned with all the current renovations happening instead.
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Such a special building. Truly one of the most iconic arenas in Canadian sports history outshined only by maple leafs stadium and the forum.

Pacific Arena,saddledome,Pepsi colisee, Civic center and Winnipeg arena surely wont have the same legacy "rex" leaves behind. Although, when I'm sitting in rogers place I don't look around and think....Man I miss Rexall, It holds such a special place in my heart as an Oilers fan. One of the loudest most intimate arenas ever built.

Its So odd to me that arenas have lost that personality and specialness to the community. Arenas don't feel like they belong to the team like rexall did the Oilers and fans. A Modern arena like Scotiabank or rogers place, built in the right Location will last 100+ years, but will they share any sentimental value to the fans? Will their be a push to save scotiabank like their was maple leaf gardens? I doubt it.

I often wonder If a team like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver or for that matter Winnipeg and Edmonton will ever play in a new arena again? These buildings will never crumble, They were build strong and flexible enough to reconfigure and expand, And with arenas costing upwards of a Billion, which canadian cities would even want to build?.

Lets be real the Only reason Ottawa is even pushing for a new arena is location. CTT could easily be rogers place with a 200M renovation. I remember watching an interview with melnyk when he said "these buildings aren't meant to last forever". I just laughed because they really are. Dry steel and concrete is really the recipe for longevity. Really they will just continue to get more structurally sound over time.

Calgary is a different story. Saddledome was built 10 years too early. It just missed the modern era of arena design.

Canada life Center is the Interesting one for me. 130M to Build, 130M to Renovate.....800M to Replace. Theirs no shot Winnipeg is ever gonna see another arena in our life time. We truly may be witnessing the end of Arena construction over the next decade or so. Whos going to construct an arena for 2 billion in 2040 that's not for downtown New York or LA?
I agree. Many arenas and stadiums these days look nice, but are soulless.

I will truly miss the unique Civic Centre in Ottawa, terrible sightlines and all. So much history with political conventions that made Prime Ministers, the return of the Sens, the fight to save our only francophone hospital and the start of the PWHL.

Palladium/Corel/Scotiabank/Canadian Tire I will not miss quite as much. I agree, with a few hundred million dollars, it could be a perfectly fine modern arena. The location you can't fix, even with an O-Train extension. A two hour round trip from Orleans to see a game is just bonkers.

It's interesting how the New York Rangers invested a Billion, the cost of a new arena, to renovate MSG, built in 1968. Obviously, no other City has the space constraints as Manhattan, but it shows the renovation route can achieve something similar to a new building.

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Well try telling that to people in the US. Oklahoma is replacing their 30 year arena with a new $900 million (or higher) arena. Nashville will be getting a $2 billion domed stadium to replace their perfectly adequate stadium. Texas recently replaced their perfectly fine 25 year old baseball stadium with a $1 billion domed stadium.

Rogers renovations to Rogers Centre will supposedly be good for 10 - 13 years at which point they will try to get funding for a new stadium elsewhere...no doubt trying to leverage the taxpayer for the majority of the funding. Good luck with that Rogers!
It's all greed. US. based sports teams never miss the chance to extort the tax payers. It's true to a certain point here as well (Calgary, and Edmonton to a certain extent), but not on the same level. It will be interesting to see what the Sens ask for in their quest to build a new rink.

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I think they won't miss a season because they will build a completely new stadium on a new site. The current site is ideal with everything all built up around it but they would have to vacate for a few years to rebuild there. Short of another pandemic that forces them out for a few years, they aren't going to willingly go play in Buffalo for 3 seasons while they demolish and rebuild at the current site.

After they move to their new park, I can see MLSE (which will be entirely under Rogers by then I believe) building a new arena on the Rogers Centre site, and I could see them keeping both arenas operating. Renovate Scotiabank into a Raptors dedicated building (as it was originally designed for anyway), a new WNBA team and concerts, the new arena slightly larger for the Leafs and also for concerts. I don't think there is any doubt Toronto can support 2 large scale arenas and Rogers really will have no reason to cede business to Hamilton, who fancies their soon to be renovated arena as the Scotiabank overflow.
For sure, Toronto could use two arenas. I'm sure ACC is near or at max capacity at this time.
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Such a special building. Truly one of the most iconic arenas in Canadian sports history outshined only by maple leafs stadium and the forum.

Pacific Arena,saddledome,Pepsi colisee, Civic center and Winnipeg arena surely wont have the same legacy "rex" leaves behind. Although, when I'm sitting in rogers place I don't look around and think....Man I miss Rexall, It holds such a special place in my heart as an Oilers fan. One of the loudest most intimate arenas ever built.

Its So odd to me that arenas have lost that personality and specialness to the community. Arenas don't feel like they belong to the team like rexall did the Oilers and fans. A Modern arena like Scotiabank or rogers place, built in the right Location will last 100+ years, but will they share any sentimental value to the fans? Will their be a push to save scotiabank like their was maple leaf gardens? I doubt it.

I often wonder If a team like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver or for that matter Winnipeg and Edmonton will ever play in a new arena again? These buildings will never crumble, They were build strong and flexible enough to reconfigure and expand, And with arenas costing upwards of a Billion, which canadian cities would even want to build?.

Lets be real the Only reason Ottawa is even pushing for a new arena is location. CTT could easily be rogers place with a 200M renovation. I remember watching an interview with melnyk when he said "these buildings aren't meant to last forever". I just laughed because they really are. Dry steel and concrete is really the recipe for longevity. Really they will just continue to get more structurally sound over time.

Calgary is a different story. Saddledome was built 10 years too early. It just missed the modern era of arena design.

Canada life Center is the Interesting one for me. 130M to Build, 130M to Renovate.....800M to Replace. Theirs no shot Winnipeg is ever gonna see another arena in our life time. We truly may be witnessing the end of Arena construction over the next decade or so. Whos going to construct an arena for 2 billion in 2040 that's not for downtown New York or LA?
Rexall was the house that Gretzky built - that's the hook. Our attachment to a house is less of the house itself and more of the people and events who gave it soul.

Once one gets the right location and amenities to make some bucks, the soul might follow. Maybe not, though. Soul is about special moments, and genericized sport product is harder to get such moments from. Does the NHL see another dynasty on par with the Habs of the '70s or Oilers of the '80s? Does 'soulless' Skydome forget Joe Carter?

I'm curious about the multipurpose stadiums that did have teams with dynasties. Do people mourn the loss of them, or does the newfangled stadium make the legacy of the old one fade, even if the team is now mediocre?

Anyway, the formula for a multipurpose arena is pretty set in stone for the time being. After Calgary's questionable-need new build and Ottawa's long-running relocation process, NHL-scale arena building is pretty much a dead duck in this country for at least another generation. Which is fine IMO - the Atlanta/State of Georgia model of 'Need new facility every 20 years' always struck me as wasteful and unfocused frivolity.
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It doesn't help that nowadays sports are more about flash and making money. Players being paid millions of dollars while underperforming, the advertisement everywhere in arenas and now on jerseys, in particular the gambling ads everywhere you turn, the soul of not just the buildings but the sports themselves has been killed by capitalism.

And yeah, of course, capitalism was always part of it, but I was less offended by advertisement of local businesses and everyday services and products over the B.S. that gets shoved down our throats today.
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It doesn't help that nowadays sports are more about flash and making money. Players being paid millions of dollars while underperforming, the advertisement everywhere in arenas and now on jerseys, in particular the gambling ads everywhere you turn, the soul of not just the buildings but the sports themselves has been killed by capitalism.

And yeah, of course, capitalism was always part of it, but I was less offended by advertisement of local businesses and everyday services and products over the B.S. that gets shoved down our throats today.
But there is no law that says you have to buy into it. When I was a kid I was a huge sports fan, I knew and followed everything. I even used to score Expos games at home.

But as the athletes got richer and more entitled my interest dropped exponentially. I used to be the biggest booster of women's sports but they turned me off with the rugby 7s and women's national soccer team and their shenanigans. The only thing I can still stand to watch (although less than I used to) is the CFL because those guys are making realistic wages.

I have to say I did turn on the first PWHL game expecting the usual bullshit but was pleasantly surprised to see a long interview with Billie Jean King being very knowledgeable and just talking about the hockey, the girls and the league without the political BS. And because no one worked at turning me off I got to see a highly skilled game that gave me a much more favourable attitude towards the league.

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/\ /\ /\ Regarding the end of nhl-scale building, don't tell that to people in Saskatoon. They believe they are the verge of building a new arena downtown with a similar capacity to their current one. Plus a convention centre on top of that. I guess they think it will be easy to secure $500+ million in this economic environment.
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But there is no law that says you have to buy into it. When I was a kid I was a huge sports fan, I knew and followed everything. I even used to score Expos games at home.

But as the athletes got richer and more entitled my interest dropped exponentially. I used to be the biggest booster of women's sports but they turned me off with the rugby 7s and women's national soccer team and their shenanigans. The only thing I can still stand to watch (although less than I used to) is the CFL because those guys are making realistic wages.

I have to say I did turn on the first PWHL game expecting the usual bullshit but was pleasantly surprised to see a long interview with Billie Jean King being very knowledgeable and just talking about the hockey, the girls and the league without the political BS. And because no one worked at turning me off I got to see a highly skilled game that gave me a much more favourable attitude towards the league.

You have a choice, exercise it.
I've definitely lost interest in the NHL and the Sens. I don't recognize the team. The vibes are not what they used to be.

I'm excited about a move to Downtown, don't get me wrong. But it's more for City building than the team itself.
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/\ /\ /\ Regarding the end of nhl-scale building, don't tell that to people in Saskatoon. They believe they are the verge of building a new arena downtown with a similar capacity to their current one. Plus a convention centre on top of that. I guess they think it will be easy to secure $500+ million in this economic environment.
Yep, I was going to say that too when I read that comment above. And while probably not quite NHL-size, there has been the occasional rumble out of Kitchener that they need something new and I wouldn't be shocked if they look to London and improve on Bud Gardens with something in the 12-13k range (which with 20/20 hindsight, London should have done).

Brantford is wanting to hang on to Hamilton's OHL team and has started the process for a new arena as well. So far, just a "let's hear what you guys want" type of thing from council to the residents. Won't be a major arena for sure, but I would bet on 6-7k at least. Something that they can partner up with the revamped Hamilton arena to be the secondary host of a World Juniors or something.
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