Granville Street Bridge - Granville Connector Project | U/C

[jollyburger]

Here's the report on the next stages to remove two lanes from the Granville Street bridge. If approved detailed design starts in September.

https://council.vancouver.ca/2019013...ents/pspc2.pdf

[Klazu]

I hadn't realized that the Granville Bridge Greenway is already under construction. Still unclear how it will connect at both ends?

I was also shocked to see the north end of Nanaimo Street having been shrunk to just 1+1 lanes. Vancouver has finally done it and converted roadway built for 3+3 lanes to just 2 lanes with pointless parking and left turn lanes. Which key arterial will follow this car-hating madness next? Kingsway's western end already lost a drive lane in both directions with the new HOV lane...

There won't be any need for the road toll soon as there won't be any lanes left to drive on!

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Klazu

any need for the road toll soon as there won't be any lanes left to drive on!

We still got alleyways.

Edited: Actually we got bike lanes too so long as your car has enough clearance to ride the median.

[idunno]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I hadn't realized that the Granville Bridge Greenway is already under construction. Still unclear how it will connect at both ends?

I was also shocked to see the north end of Nanaimo Street having been shrunk to just 1+1 lanes. Vancouver has finally done it and converted roadway built for 3+3 lanes to just 2 lanes with pointless parking and left turn lanes. Which key arterial will follow this car-hating madness next? Kingsway's western end already lost a drive lane in both directions with the new HOV lane...

There won't be any need for the road toll soon as there won't be any lanes left to drive on!

The construction you see on the Granville Bridge is actually a separate seismic upgrade/joint replacement project. Detailed design has likely not even begun for the connector itself.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by idunno

The construction you see on the Granville Bridge is actually a separate seismic upgrade/joint replacement project. Detailed design has likely not even begun for the connector itself.

Oh, interesting. As said, I was surprised to think that the Greenway having moved forward but they had blocked off four middle lanes across the bridge so I immediately assumed this being it now. This is actually a project I am not against even as it will remove car lanes.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by idunno

The construction you see on the Granville Bridge is actually a separate seismic upgrade/joint replacement project. Detailed design has likely not even begun for the connector itself.

And even though Kennedy Stewart likes to claim the city is in dire fiscal straits because of Covid, you can bet this pet project will go ahead anyway.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

And even though Kennedy Stewart likes to claim the city is in dire fiscal straits because of Covid, you can bet this pet project will go ahead anyway.

It would be great if they could move the project forward as soon as possible. It's badly needed - the sidewalks are currently far too narrow, while the road space is more than needed for current or projected traffic. This is a capital project, so it keeps people employed during economically challenged times, but has very low ongoing revenue requirements once its built. It's revenue that represent the 'dire straits' the City is in - because fees paid for services are down, but costs of providing some services are higher. The rules the City has to operate under say that capital can't be used to fund the city's revenue needs.

[ecbin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

It would be great if they could move the project forward as soon as possible. It's badly needed - the sidewalks are currently far too narrow, while the road space is more than needed for current or projected traffic. This is a capital project, so it keeps people employed during economically challenged times, but has very low ongoing revenue requirements once its built. It's revenue that represent the 'dire straits' the City is in - because fees paid for services are down, but costs of providing some services are higher. The rules the City has to operate under say that capital can't be used to fund the city's revenue needs.

I happened to walk over the Granville bridge for the first time a few weeks ago and the sidewalks are shockingly narrow. I'm surprised that there haven't been more pedestrian deaths from them falling into traffic.

[MIPS]

I've never really seen a whole lot of foot traffic going over the bridge. The ramps on either end make it hard to reach unless you want to run across traffic so I can only assume people opt for the Burrard or Cambie bridges which are more accessible.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I hadn't realized that the Granville Bridge Greenway is already under construction. Still unclear how it will connect at both ends?

I was also shocked to see the north end of Nanaimo Street having been shrunk to just 1+1 lanes. Vancouver has finally done it and converted roadway built for 3+3 lanes to just 2 lanes with pointless parking and left turn lanes. Which key arterial will follow this car-hating madness next? Kingsway's western end already lost a drive lane in both directions with the new HOV lane...

There won't be any need for the road toll soon as there won't be any lanes left to drive on!

I could do without the parking lane, but left turn lanes are badly needed in Vancouver. Traffic seems to flow fine up and down Nanaimo.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I could do without the parking lane, but left turn lanes are badly needed in Vancouver. Traffic seems to flow fine up and down Nanaimo.

Absolutely - with space for left- and right-turning drivers to pull out of traffic the one lane flows smoothly with no problems. The biggest issue I've seen is people who don't understand what the left turn lane is for. And for some obscure reason there are a couple of intersections where left turns are allowed (i.e., there isn't a "No left turn" sign) but they've put a short concrete median in place that blocks people from using the left turn lane.

[officedweller]

That's because municipalities budget in reverse -
They create their wishlist of a budget, then set the mill rate to raise property taxes to pay for it (they cannot run a deficit).

Everyone else does it normally - predict the amount of revenue coming in, then budget for what you can afford.

[Feathered Friend]

https://bids.vancouver.ca/bidopp/RFP...opsRemoval.PDF


https://bids.vancouver.ca/bidopp/RFP...opsRemoval.PDF

Those looking forward to the Granville Bridge Connector’s mobility upgrades are in for a long wait. Despite the ongoing seismic work, this RFP reveals that project, & the north side H-network won’t open for at least 3 more years
https://t.co/Bhd3kQS7yi?amp=1

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/...365514754?s=20

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://bids.vancouver.ca/bidopp/RFP...opsRemoval.PDF


https://bids.vancouver.ca/bidopp/RFP...opsRemoval.PDF

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/...365514754?s=20

Completion: November 2023. I'm guessing the elevator will have to wait until the Reaper invasion?

Originally Posted by ecbin

I happened to walk over the Granville bridge for the first time a few weeks ago and the sidewalks are shockingly narrow. I'm surprised that there haven't been more pedestrian deaths from them falling into traffic.

The bridge itself is manageable, but you might have to step into the road a couple times on the ramps.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Completion: November 2023. I'm guessing the elevator will have to wait until the Reaper invasion?



The bridge itself is manageable, but you might have to step into the road a couple times on the ramps.

The best is the South side Fir Street ramp where you get dumped into the road with no crosswalk.

[jollyburger]

Trying to cross at the loops is probably more dangerous since as previously mentioned it's never that busy in terms of foot traffic.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I'm guessing the elevator will have to wait until the Reaper invasion?

[FarmerHaight]

Granville Bridge's new pedestrian and cycling pathway and north loops demolition to proceed for $28 million

It is presumed the municipal government merged both projects together for the benefits of economies of scale in terms of construction cost, and a reduced overall construction timeline and impacts to traffic. Construction could begin as early as before the end of 2022 or early 2023.

But there will still be major traffic disruptions, as City staff in their report to City Council this week note the full width of the bridge’s north approach will be closed for six months to allow for demolition works. Two lanes of traffic will be kept open at all times throughout construction on the main bridge span.

[Jimbo604]

DailyHive Granville Bridge's new pedestrian and cycling pathway and north loops demolition to proceed for $28 million Kenneth Chan Oct 24 2022, 5:18 pm

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/gran...ition-contract

[jollyburger]

Demo of the Granville Loops

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