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Old Posted Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 PM
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Will Oklahoma City become a top 10 city in America?

Will Oklahoma City with a population 655,000 become a top 10 city in America?

Yes or No and why?
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 PM
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Will Oklahoma City with a population 655,000 become a top 10 city in America?

Yes or No and why?
top 10 in terms of city proper?

i suppose there's an outside chance.

but city propers are way less meaningful as a comparison tool than MSA or UA.

on those scores, i'd say the chances of it happening anytime soon are nil.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2020, 10:40 PM
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ya city proper. it might take a few decades. if Dallas can do it, I'm sure Oklahoma City can. Metro Dallas is working on greater Chicago at this point. Who thought that a hundred years ago.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2020, 11:02 PM
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Just using St. Louis as an example but...

St. Louis City + County:
Land Area = 570 sq. mi.
Population = 1.3 million
Metro Population = 2.8 million

Oklahoma City:
Land Area = 606 sq. mi.
Population = 655 thousand
Metro Population = 1.4 million

...so the answer is no.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2020, 11:06 PM
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top 10 in vigesimal maybe. But probably not.
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its already 8th largest city in the usa by area. so by precedent they would probably have no shame in annexing their way to a higher position if the will to do it and the ex-urban growth is there. and not saying that is a bad thing, it might be good to do these days to keep public service resources consolidated.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2020, 4:42 PM
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No. It will never be a top 10 city.

By city proper:
It's currently 25th in population, and it's only got 64% of the population of the #10 spot which is San Jose. There are also 9 cities in front of it that are currently growing at a faster rate.

By MSA:
It's currently 41st in population, and it's only got 28% of the population of the #10 spot which is Phoenix. There are also 14 MSA's in front of it that are currently growing at a faster rate. There's also another MSA right behind it (Raleigh) that is growing at double the rate OKC is at.

By CSA:
It's currently 39th in population, and it's only got 21% of the population of the #10 spot which is Miami. There are also 14 CSA's in front of it that are currently growing at a faster rate.
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If sea level rise is as severe as the worst case scenarios predict, then ironically, the fervently climate-change-denying OKC area has a stab at it, sure
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I think the city proper could get into the top 10 in 50 - 80 years from now. a lot of cities are maxed out in terms of annexation and retaining current populations with remote work and zoom. if Texas becomes an unaffordable high tax state, the natural overflow could be Oklahoma City. if fossil fuel fracking and exploration with solar and wind continuing to gain market share, Oklahoma could become more of an economic hub.
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One of the great skylines behind only New York, Chicago, and Jacksonville in my book. The Thunder are right behind the Lakers as best NBA franchise, maybe tops in the country in the amount of vacant land surrounding the downtown core, and I hear Sonic has good tater tots.

Going by those factors I think you have to put it top 10 already, the question is can OKC crack the top 5?
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One of the great skylines behind only New York, Chicago, and Jacksonville in my book. The Thunder are right behind the Lakers as best NBA franchise, maybe tops in the country in the amount of vacant land surrounding the downtown core, and I hear Sonic has good tater tots.

Going by those factors I think you have to put it top 10 already, the question is can OKC crack the top 5?
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Unless it becomes the epicenter of some sort of major economic boom a la Silicon Valley, I don't see how it's possible?
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Will Oklahoma City with a population 655,000 become a top 10 city in America?

Yes or No and why?
In terms of population maybe, but not otherwise. OKC is VERY nice, but there are ten very solid cities ahead of it.

1. NY
2. LA
3. SF
4. Chi
5. Boston
6. DC
7. Philly
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10.Dallas
11.Houston
12.Atlanta
13. Denver
14. New Orleans
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See... top 10.

Very easy! Congrats.

Folks be stoked about that fact.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2020, 1:36 AM
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What's the geography like? I think to crack the top 10 it needs population or geography.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2020, 1:43 AM
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Was watching CNN at this moment in time, and can you believe it!




Live aerial coverage of OkC.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2020, 2:05 AM
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In terms of population maybe, but not otherwise. OKC is VERY nice, but there are ten very solid cities ahead of it.

1. NY
2. LA
3. SF
4. Chi
5. Boston
6. DC
7. Philly
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10.Dallas
11.Houston
12.Atlanta
13. Denver
14. New Orleans
not sure what this means... OKC is nice but we're talking 655K people spread over 600 square miles. any top 10 ranking would be due to favorably drawn boundaries.
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In terms of population maybe, but not otherwise. OKC is VERY nice, but there are ten very solid cities ahead of it.

1. NY
2. LA
3. SF
4. Chi
5. Boston
6. DC
7. Philly
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10.Dallas
11.Houston
12.Atlanta
13. Denver
14. New Orleans
in the top 9 if you take out SF, Chi, Boston, DC, and Philly. its very evenly laid out. if la and ny were on the same coast that would have been weird.

8 and 9 (seattle and miami) the furthest they can get apart, 1 and 2 (new york and la) the furthest they can get apart. then adding the other 5 back in it becomes uneven and those are all on the east coast/ midwest, except for sf.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2020, 11:35 PM
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^^^^

It makes a parallelogram.

Seeing shapes and symmetry from word lists is some higher level stuff Dubu. You sir, are on a different plane of consciousness, and thats a good thing!
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2020, 5:23 PM
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not sure what this means... OKC is nice but we're talking 655K people spread over 600 square miles. any top 10 ranking would be due to favorably drawn boundaries.
Most of that 600 square miles is empty nothingness, where it has developed its in the 2100 ppsm range using old 2010 information. that puts it ahead of a place like Cincinnati and not far below Providence and Boston around the 2200 ppsm tier. if the empty areas within the city limits develop at 2200 ppsm, the city will be close to 1.3 million without annexing additional land areas. it might take decades but is possible.
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