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Indigenous Peoples Space [100 Wellington St]

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Government seeking public input on use of former U.S. embassy building

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: August 8, 2016 | Last Updated: August 8, 2016 5:51 PM EDT




If you think the former American embassy at 100 Wellington St. across from Parliament Hill would make a dandy national portrait gallery, you’ll soon have an opportunity to make that case.

The federal government wants to turn the embassy building, vacant since 1998, into a “special destination” for Canadians, Rob Wright, an assistant deputy minister at Public Services and Procurement Canada, told journalists during a media tour Monday.

To find out what Canadians think that destination should be, the department will hold a town-hall meeting, webcast live, at the nearby Sir John A. Macdonald Building on Aug. 18 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. An online survey will be available at that time at http://www.canada.ca/100WellingtonStreet until Sept. 9.

The government has a “high-level list” of possible uses, Wright said, but they won’t be revealed until Aug. 18. He declined to say whether a portrait gallery is on the list, but it’s a solid bet: that was the intended use of the former embassy until the Conservatives were elected in 2006 and cancelled the project.

“I don’t want to scoop myself,” Wright said coyly. “You’ll have to come out on the 18th of August.”

Nor is there any timeline yet for the project. “We’re focused on hearing from Canadians on how they want to use the building,” Wright said. Once the consultation ends on Sept. 9, there will be a period of analysis, he said, with the results made public “sometime in the coming months.”

That suggests the government might announce the former embassy’s future use next year as a Canada 150 initiative, but Wright wouldn’t go there Monday.

“We’re at step one of the process,” he said. “A timeline will come out after we have a use that I’m sure will be exciting.”

Wright said the 1,605-square-metre embassy building — built in 1931-32 and designed by Cass Gilbert, the American architect who designed the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington — is a “keystone building within the parliamentary precinct.

“In fact, if the parliamentary precinct were a Monopoly game, this would be Park Place,” he said. “This building has it all. It has an ideal location, it’s an architectural gem and it’s got a very special history.”

Ottawa Centre MP Catherine McKenna, the minister of the environment and climate change, said she was “thrilled we’re now moving forward to make this heritage building a public space Ottawans and visitors alike will use and be proud of.?

“I know how important this is to our community, so I look forward to the public consultation and to working on behalf of the people of the National Capital Region to make sure this space reaches its potential,”? she said.?

Done in Italian neoclassical style, the building was the first embassy built in Ottawa, said Thierry Montpetit, a senior director in the department’s parliamentary precinct branch — and one of the first the Americans built anywhere.

Hazardous materials and outdated mechanical and electrical systems were removed and other demolition work done as part of the portrait gallery project. That cost about $800,000 — part of $9 million the former Liberal government spent on the portrait gallery project before the Tories pulled the plug in 2006.

That money wasn’t wasted, Wright said. “That investment would have had to be done regardless of future use.” Since then, the department has spent an average of $200,000 a year on upkeep.

The building today has been largely gutted to concrete walls and ceilings, with exposed wiring and plumbing. Yet some of its former grandeur is still evident.

White marble from Vermont adorns the lobby, the walls in the ambassador’s quarters are done in oak panelling and his private office, which offers an extraordinary view of the Parliament Buildings through floor-to-ceiling windows, is finished in pine, a nod to Ottawa’s lumbering history.

“Because this space was so special, the Americans invested heavily in the craftsmanship and quality of the architecture,” Montpetit said.

No matter what public use is ultimately chosen, Wright said, there will need to be “at least a small addition” to make the building universally accessible and house modern heating, cooling and electrical services.

The pending embassy building project is just the latest in a series of rehabilitation projects the department has undertaken in recent years. It completed work on the Sir John A. Macdonald Building last year and the Wellington Building last month.

Work on the West Block will be substantially complete by December 2017, Wright said. Over the summer of 2018, occupants of the Centre Block will be moved to the West Block and the former Government Conference Centre, which is also undergoing major renovations and repairs. That will trigger a decade of work to fix up the Centre Block and modernize its systems.

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PWGSC's 100 Wellington Street consultation site:

http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citepar...treet-eng.html

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In the short term perhaps the space could be whipped into something for Canada 150 next year.


In the longer term I am not sure. The portrait gallery idea has never excited me.
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The portrait gallery idea is terrific - and I'm even more enthusiastic now that I've seen those pictures of the interior of the former embassy.

1. It would make the parliamentary precinct more interesting. It adds a public destination to the NCC's triangle of institutions/Confederation Boulevard. Good for tourism = good for the capital. I can't fathom why we'd waste this opportunity on a nonpublic use.

2. We have lots of art in long-term storage, and Canadians often complain of having little history/culture - let's display more of it!

3. The historic building and prized location could make it Ottawa's answer to the Mauritshuis in Holland:





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Not many cities have portrait galleries. In those that do it is among the least popular attractions. I think portraits that have artistic merit should be in the national gallery. Portraits that have no artistic merit but depict someone of historical significance should be in the relevant national museum (history, war, etc.).

This was one of those projects Chrétien thought up in his last 6 months in office (but not in the previous 9.5 years in office). Nobody had been clamouring for a portrait gallery. Martin mothballed it as soon as he took office. Harper toyed with it and eventually cancelled it. This seems to have more to do with anti-Harper sentiment than any real need.
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Not many cities have portrait galleries. In those that do it is among the least popular attractions.

I think portraits that have artistic merit should be in the national gallery. Portraits that have no artistic merit but depict someone of historical significance should be in the relevant national museum (history, war, etc.).

This was one of those projects Chrétien thought up in his last 6 months in office (but not in the previous 9.5 years in office). Nobody had been clamouring for a portrait gallery. Martin mothballed it as soon as he took office. Harper toyed with it and eventually cancelled it. This seems to have more to do with anti-Harper sentiment than any real need.
There's a lot to unpack here, but I disagree 100%.

1) London's portrait gallery is stunning and considered an excellent attraction. Your argument was raised in decades past to oppose the NAC, the Gallery and the Museum of Civilization. Of course no one now thinks of them as unnecessary.

2) The federal govt has a massive mothballed collection of paintings because there isn't display room anywhere for it. And some collections are more than the sum of their parts, and shouldn't be fragmented across other museums.

3) I recall a lot of disappointed people in Ottawa when Martin suspended the project for external political reasons. Harper killed it because he was anything but a nation builder.

I resent your suggestion that nobody wants the gallery and that its backers only want it to give Harper the finger. And I'm shocked that any Ottawans would oppose this idea.
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A portrait gallery can fit perfectly in a simple website.
It's cheaper, and more accessible to all.
Were you sipping a soylent while you wrote that?

Vibrancy is anathema to efficiency. To paraphrase a lesser known Jane Jacobs quote, if you want efficiency, nothing's more efficient than a rock.
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Were you sipping a soylent while you wrote that?

Vibrancy is anathema to efficiency. To paraphrase a lesser known Jane Jacobs quote, if you want efficiency, nothing's more efficient than a rock.
Efficiency is "useful work per quantity of energy". Since a rock does no useful work, pretty much everything would be more efficient than a rock.

I'm not sure how the most boring possible museum (black and white photographs of dead white people, possibly the odd mediocre oil painting of a dead white person) that would likely be open for dentists hours and closed on Mondays would contribute to the vibrancy of the city.
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Maybe it could also house temporary topical exhibits, for example about Canada's Olympic athletes. Or every few months they could have a special exhibit on one famous Canadian, showing some of their personal effects and info about their lives.
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Maybe it could also house temporary topical exhibits, for example about Canada's Olympic athletes. Or every few months they could have a special exhibit on one famous Canadian, showing some of their personal effects and info about their lives.
I also really like this idea.

I have been kicking around the idea of a Canada Collections or Crown Collections building as I feel the State has many, many (like National Archives) interesting collections of items- portraits, historic items, artwork that is not on display but stilling in wearhouses. Having just a Canada Gallery that has rotating displays of topical and neat items is a compelling idea.
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Return of the Canada and the world pavilion.
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i would literally go to a constitutional hall one time. there wont exactly be a lot of new blockbuster documents bringing me back.

on the other hand, rotating portraits from a massive collection, which can be grouped by theme, artist, etc, would get me back repeatedly.

as for comments that portraits should be scanned, you're literally saying that you'd rather scan works of artistic merit than scan pieces of paper with signatures on them. do you people still have fax machines?
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as for comments that portraits should be scanned, you're literally saying that you'd rather scan works of artistic merit than scan pieces of paper with signatures on them. do you people still have fax machines?
Works of artistic merit (including portraits) can be found in the national gallery. The portrait gallery is the collection of LAC, and is mostly B&W photos with some paintings that archivists have acquired over the years. The photos could be put online with the same resolution as they can be printed on paper. They could also be reproduced and displayed anywhere.
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Should have been open for Canada 150.
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Fingers crossed, but I fear that this may languish until a second Trudeau term, if there is one.
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We do not need a Aboriginal *museum* - a glorified warehouse of past objects,
And I'm a lover of history.

We need to bring the Aboriginal sphere into the fold of the official nature of Ottawa. For too long they have been kept under the thumb of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs. They lack a more direct connection with state functions and parliament, kept behind a bureaucracy.

Let us not forget that the national symbol of the United States is an eagle holding a bundle of arrows. A direct connection to one of the oldest examples of constitutional government- the [Iroquois Confederacy](https://youtu.be/RPtUSKKzBcM?t=6m45s). Which was a model for the future Federations of North America- Canada and the United States.

Can't hide from the colonialist-vibe from the architecture, but I think this use/this building can have a subversive effect on this narrative. Especially since going off memory the building has multiple eagles/arrow bundles, and I think this architecture can fit say if you were designing a suitable home for the allies in ether the French and Indian Wars (mid-1700s) - where the French and the First Nations kept the Americans back from Montreal (War of Conquest in Quebec) fighting up and down the Great War Path. Though the American's did eventually march into "conquest us into liberty" but history turned out differently, thankfully we had Aboriginal allies in the War of 1812 or once again Canada would have been annexed into liberty.

I don't want to pontificate, but one of the greatest tragedies in Canada is how we teach our history poorly and only really from 1867 onwards.
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This isn't about what the First Nations have gone through or whether they need a greater seat at the table. It's about what's the best use for this particular building. Having gone inside the building for a tour the day they held the open house, I just don't see how this building is suitable for an indigenous use. Even if an embassy or centre for reconciliation as needed, it would be good to house something like that in a building that reflects Indigenous culture.

This also makes you question the point in participating in government processes, like open houses and surveys, if the government is just going to do what it wants in the end. It would've been better to just make it an Aboriginal centre in the first place and don't invite people to participate in the process.
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