California’s population is on the rise. So much for the claims of the state’s demise

[ocman]

California’s population is on the rise. So much for the claims of the state’s demise

SACRAMENTO — It was bound to end. This is California, after all. Losing population defies our history. Now we’re back growing again.
Yes, that’s correct. California has resumed adding people after three years of shedding them.

Just last week, I reported that California residents were fleeing the state. They still are. But our numbers again are rising, based on updated Newsom administration data to be released around May 1.

What caused the turnaround?

Fewer people are now able to work remotely in other states, old people have quit dying at the extraordinary rate they were during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the Biden administration has relaxed restrictions on legal immigration.

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Schwarm said 42% of California’s legal immigrants come from Asia and 38% from Central America. And 57% have at least a bachelor’s degree. Last year, California gained more than 124,000 legal foreign immigrants,

California’s population grows for the first time since 2020

California’s population is celebrating its first net increase since 2020 — with a net gain of 67,000 residents last year, state authorities announced on Tuesday.
Officials attributed the rise — to 39,128,162 individuals as of Jan. 1 — to an improvement in legal foreign immigration policies, a growth in the natural population and the return of mortality rates to long-term trends.
Meanwhile, net domestic migration rates receded to those of the 2010s, while the state’s Department of Finance projected a continued positive population expansion.
“With immigration processing backlogs largely eliminated and deaths returning to long-term trends, a stable foundation for continued growth has returned,” a statement from the agency said.

Population numbers rose in 31 of California’s 58 counties, predominantly in the Bay Area, the Central Valley and the “Inland Empire:” the metropolitan area eastbound of coastal Southern California.

Los Angeles County and Orange County grew by 0.05 and 0.31 percent, respectively, according to the data.

Five counties across the state featured growth that surpassed one percent: Sutter, Yuba and Glenn counties in the Sacramento Valley; San Benito County east of Monterey; and Imperial County east of San Diego. The Department of Finance attributed those increases largely to housing gains.
Nine of 10 counties with populations of more than 1 million, which make up 72 percent of the state’s total residents, saw surges in their numbers. Riverside County was at the helm, with an increase of 13,800 individuals.

TLDR version: Population rose back above 39M. Net gain of 67,000. Net migration receded back to 2010 levels. Biden’s immigration relaxation and asylum seekers and calling employees back to the office. Also, people not dying.

[austlar1]

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12...growth-census/

[homebucket]

Is there a list that shows which counties grew the most by raw numbers and by percentages?

[bilbao58]

That didn’t take long.

[edale]

I thought it was general consensus here that census population estimates are basically worthless due to how off they were compared to actual counts in 2020.

[202_Cyclist]

Originally Posted by ocman

California’s population is on the rise. So much for the claims of the state’s demise



California’s population grows for the first time since 2020






TLDR version: Population rose back above 39M. Net gain of 67,000. Net migration receded back to 2010 levels. Biden’s immigration relaxation and asylum seakers and calling employees back to the office. Also, people not dying.

Also, housing no longer being affordable in Phoenix and 20 days in a row with temperatures over 110 degrees might lead to people rethinking their choice of moving out of California.

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by 202_Cyclist

Also, housing no longer being affordable in Phoenix and 20 days in a row with temperatures over 110 degrees might lead to people rethinking their choice of moving out of California.

Its 97 in Sherman Oaks today. Hottest day for us so far.

I dont know how people in Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Tennesee and Florida put up with this every day for half the year (at least)

Staying inside in AC isn't good QOL. Cheap house? Who cares? You can't do anything.

And its only gonna get hotter in those places.

[bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by LA21st

Its 97 in Sherman Oaks today. Hottest day for us so far.

I dont know how people in Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Tennesee and Florida put up with this every day for half the year (at least)

Staying inside in AC isn't good QOL. Cheap house? Who cares? You can't do anything.

And its only gonna get hotter in those places.

Can't speak for the other states & not sure if you've been to Florida but it is in the Sub-Tropics and when it gets hot we have daily thundershowers to cool off the temps.

Do you know how rare it is to have a Heatwave in Florida or that Miami has Never had a temp above 99 F degrees?

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by bobdreamz

Can't speak for the other states & not sure if you've been to Florida but it is in the Sub-Tropics and when it gets hot we have daily thundershowers to cool off the temps.

Do you know how rare it is to have a Heatwave in Florida or that Miami has Never had a temp above 99 F degrees?

Miamis heat index is over 100 many days of the year. And the dew point is always one of the highest. The heat index/dew point is what matters. Its currently 79 dew point in Miami at 11:30 Am. A dew point of 76 is considered "miserable".

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...277743448.html

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories...d67525575c042e

According to this, Miami-Dade avged 41 days a year over 100 heat index from 1971-2000. That was 2000. Its likely 50-60 days over 100 now if not more. Lots has changed since 2000.

[AviationGuy]

Originally Posted by LA21st

Its 97 in Sherman Oaks today. Hottest day for us so far.

I dont know how people in Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Tennesee and Florida put up with this every day for half the year (at least)

Staying inside in AC isn't good QOL. Cheap house? Who cares? You can't do anything.

And its only gonna get hotter in those places.

No, not half a year. Look at average highs for the major cities in those states, by month. But...you are correct, it's only gonna get hotter, and already has been, especially since 2000. We used to cool down somewhat in September, but not so much anymore.

[L41A]

Originally Posted by AviationGuy

No, not half a year. Look at average highs for the major cities in those states, by month. But...you are correct, it's only gonna get hotter, and already has been, especially since 2000. We used to cool down somewhat in September, but not so much anymore.

Yes - a bit hyperbolic and dramatic. (Knoxville, TN same climate as Miami or Orlando??, etc). "Half a year (at least)" ?? Atlanta has on average 47 days a year with a high 90 or above according to local weather report. And the earliest date for a high 90 or above is in late May/early June. Also, plenty of folk do things in the heat (fish, beach/lake, bike, picnic, jog, gardening, lawncare, etc). Plus, folk act like a global climate change is only going to affect certain places - when it may change the climate where you like today to that of those that you deride/dislike or to something even worse.

[badrunner]

Originally Posted by L41A

Plus, folk act like a global climate change is only going to affect certain places - when it may change the climate where you like today to that of those that you deride/dislike or to something even worse.

Some places will be affected more than others. But coastal California will always have a milder/cooler climate relative to the interior of the continent. The earth would have to stop spinning to disrupt the North Pacific Gyre and the California Current that bring us those cool ocean breezes. Not to say that climate change won't affect us at all here. We're seeing some impacts but not so much in terms of air temperatures.

Apparently climate change will turn Southern California into the world of Pandora from Avatar.

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[ssiguy]

Population loss is always a bad thing. In Canada, we would kill to have growth rates this low. Canada added nearly 1.3 million in 2023 for an annual growth rate of a whopping and highly unsustainable rate of 3.2%. Ontario alone grew by 550,000 which is the fastest rate of any state or province in NA. Such rates have sent rental and real estate prices soaring while crushing our healthcare system.

If fast population growth is what you would like to see............careful what you ask for.

[chris08876]

Shame Cali can't build cheap housing in mass and in high rise fashion. I always envisioned LA county having Tokyo level density up to the horizon. A Cali that has 80 million and one that works would be cool to see. Cali could be growing much much faster if they build more. The demand is astronomical.

[The North One]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Shame Cali can't build cheap housing in mass and in high rise fashion. I always envisioned LA county having Tokyo level density up to the horizon. A Cali that has 80 million and one that works would be cool to see. Cali could be growing much much faster if they build more. The demand is astronomical.

No Westerner with any means want's to live in Tokyo level density. And the whole appeal of California is having a single family home in a gorgeous setting with near perfect weather.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by The North One

No Westerner with any means want's to live in Tokyo level density. And the whole appeal of California is having a single family home in a gorgeous setting with near perfect weather.

Westerner as in the global west or US west? People obviously pay an arm and a leg to live in dense places throughout the global west. Focusing in on the western US, the city of San Francisco is a little higher in density than Tokyo, so they also will pay through the nose to live in that type of density on the West Coast.

[The North One]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Westerner as in the global west or US west? People obviously pay an arm and a leg to live in dense places throughout the global west. Focusing in on the western US, the city of San Francisco is a little higher in density than Tokyo, so they also will pay through the nose to live in that type of density on the West Coast.

A very small niche will. Obviously not the norm. There's no way the wealthiest parts of San Francisco have Tokyo density.

[veep]

Originally Posted by The North One

And the whole appeal of California is having a single family home in a gorgeous setting with near perfect weather.

fixed. Millions of Californians live in apartments after all.

[DCReid]

I have a hard time thinking California has turned the corner, especially with the southwestern states like AZ, NV and CO offering cheaper house prices and for many, better quality of life. And now you have Texas in the mix poaching headquarters of companies, big and small, and larger numbers of people. I think California is now like New York state, in that will grow some years and decline other years, all while maintaining a population between 39 million and 41-42 million over a 30 year period, like NY has maintained a population between 19 and 21 million over the last 40 or so years.

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Shame Cali can't build cheap housing in mass and in high rise fashion. I always envisioned LA county having Tokyo level density up to the horizon. A Cali that has 80 million and one that works would be cool to see. Cali could be growing much much faster if they build more. The demand is astronomical.

Yes, its def slowed down by the dumb council members here. Some are Nimbys, some are idiots who think new housing causes gentification. They're all incredibly stupid.
Cant wait until those 3 progressive maniacs are gone in next election.

Santa Monica--West LA/Culver City--Downtown LA---Glendale--Pasadena---is set up to be America's Tokyo with the various density/job centers. You can kinda glimpse this when traveling on the Expo Line between SM and downtown. The potential is right in your face.

Its just making it more dense/transit in between better.