[Halifax] 1874 Brunswick Street | 12 fl | 34 m | Cancelled

[someone123]

This will be a 12 storey hotel on the corner of Brunswick and Gottingen.

Report presented to the municipal Design Review Committee:

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...3_reduced2.pdf

Rendering:

[OldDartmouthMark]

Interesting project, but the architecture is a little disappointing based on the renderings. For such a prominent spot I was hoping for something that made a statement, not the typical mishmash of shapes and materials that seems to be popular today. Perhaps something that would accentuate the flatiron-esque layout of the corner might do it justice.

Also noted that there will only be 12 parking stalls in the building, although the building will have 171 units. Presumably they will provide valet-style offsite parking for their guests?

[someone123]

I agree about the architectural design. Hopefully it will evolve and be simplified.

Still a big step up from what's there now though, and another small step toward filling in the gaps between downtown and the North End.

[hoser111]

Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by someone123

I agree about the architectural design. Hopefully it will evolve and be simplified.

Still a big step up from what's there now though, and another small step toward filling in the gaps between downtown and the North End.

True enough. I am hoping for an evolution/improvement in design, but I can be a little impatient for change when it looks obviously bad to me.

But you're right, it will be a large improvement over the current situation regardless.

[beyeas]

Originally Posted by hoser111

Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

yikes

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by hoser111

Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

Looks like a hospital building.

[JET]

Originally Posted by mleblanc

Looks like a hospital building.

not bland enough for a hospital building

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by JET

not bland enough for a hospital building

Are we looking at a pictue of the same hotel?

[JET]

Originally Posted by mleblanc

Are we looking at a pictue of the same hotel?

The one that looks like it was made of red and grey lego?

[Marty_Mcfly]

Jag Looking To Open Second Location In Halifax

A St. John’s hotelier is expanding one of his brands outside the province.

JAG Hotel, owned by Steele Hotels, is looking to open a second location in the Cogswell District of Halifax. The proposed development will feature 10 floors and 170 rooms near the Metro Centre in Halifax.

John Steele says they are still awaiting approval on the project. He is hopeful that construction will get underway in late spring or early summer.

Meanwhile, plans are ongoing to expand JAG’s footprint in the west end of St. John’s. Steele says city officials appear upbeat about the project. Once approved, it will be bigger than the new Halifax hotel.

He says it will have about the same number of rooms, but will include a new multi-purpose room.

http://vocm.com/news/jag-looking-to-...on-in-halifax/

Heads up, Halifax.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

http://vocm.com/news/jag-looking-to-...on-in-halifax/

Heads up, Halifax.

Interesting that they call it the Metro Centre rather than the Scotiabank Centre...

I thought mention of this project was posted here last year for this corner...

Edit: Post was moved from the General thread. No longer has relevance.

[Hali87]

The renderings make it look like a sad amalgam of everything that exists on that block with some purple spandrel thrown in just to make it worse. What I feel they should have gone for is something like the Vic or the Pearl - visually striking and making good use of the site. Those (hopefully very conceptual) renderings look tacky and hideous IMO and waste one of the only remaining opportunities to build something on that block that's both large-ish and not a dull slab. This is fronting the Citadel and will (presumably) be there for decades; we should be demanding better than this. With the right materials (and colours) it has potential to be a decent building but I'd hesitate to say a great one.

[someone123]

It doesn't address the corner or the slope very well. A lot of older buildings in Halifax have (or had) elegant corner entrances or ornamentation, windows and storefronts that follow the slope of the street, etc. The cheap, poor equivalent is a plain concrete plinth.

Hopefully the DRC insisted on some changes.

[someone123]

This is going before the DRC tonight. Report: https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...0725drc911.pdf

[hoser111]

Passed the DRC.....

HALIFAX—A committee has approved a 12-storey hotel for a prominent site in downtown Halifax, though there are still some details to iron out.

Halifax’s design review committee met Thursday evening to consider the proposal for the corner of Brunswick and Gottingen streets from Fougere Menchenton Architecture Inc. on behalf of Steele Hotels Ltd., owned by Newfoundland Capital Corp. founder John Steele.

Steele’s company operates six hotels in Newfoundland. This hotel will be branded like the JAG in St. John’s — “a masterpiece within the heart and soul of North America’s oldest city,” according to its website.

“This is a very high-end brand,” Ron Fougere, president of Fougere Menchenton, told the committee.

https://www.thestar.com/halifax/2019...n-halifax.html

[someone123]

The rendering in the article is much better than what was in the report:



I still think the corner is a bit weak but I like the taller lower floors.

The public benefit portion for the height bonus is an aboriginal themed gallery. There was some discussion of whether the gallery space provided is good enough to qualify or if it would be redundant with the Friendship Centre nearby.

This argument seems a bit weak since the benefit is based on a dollar value that the developer is exceeding, and if anything being next door to the Friendship Centre might make this more valuable since it would be easy to visit both. It's good that they're not proposing more lighthouse statues.

[Keith P.]

A better public benefit would be an enclosed escalator for the uphill sidewalk adjacent on the south side.

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by someone123

The public benefit portion for the height bonus is an aboriginal themed gallery. There was some discussion of whether the gallery space provided is good enough to qualify or if it would be redundant with the Friendship Centre nearby.

I don't think the main issue was the redundancy (though it did come up), but the fact that it's on the second floor of the hotel. Sounds like it's less of a "public" gallery and more of an amenity for the hotel guests.

[Dmajackson]

Case 22322: Incentive or Bonus Zoning Agreement 1872-1874 Brunswick Street, Halifax