Resist 2010 Making Fools Of Themselves?

[LotusLand]

Here is probably the best rant i've seen on the web about the Resist 2010 movement.

http://vancitybuzz.blogspot.com/2009/06/resist-2010-feels-bullied.html

[djmk]

disclaimer: i am all for the olympics and i think SOME of the protesters true idiots.


HOWEVER, i would argue that supporting the olympics (either for or against) is a political view. Public declaration of one's views is supposed to be tolerated here. But I think ICU's visiting workplaces, neighbours, family members etc is a bit much, rather scary and something that belongs in North Korea, not Canada.

I heard on CKNW that these ICU people are targeting/investigating pretty much everybody that sent a letter or whatever complaining about the olympics (ie costs....) even 80 year old senior citizens.

I would be unnerved if an ICU agent was talking to my neighbour or boss about me

[LotusLand]

^ but if you got nothing to hide they won't arrest you or anything. They are doing this to keep an eye on security threats and resist 2010 in my opinion may be one.

All I know is the rant is welcomed in cyberspace because these groups prey on people who are disenfranchised. Lets stick to the man because well we got nothing better to do.

I'm all for them protesting, but they do so in a manner that is infuriating and slaps us hard working folks in the face.

They can resist but do so peacefully.

Believe me when I say that we are nothing like the countries you mentioned above.

[djmk]

i know canada is nothing like north korea, but that is not the point. if legitimate peaceful protesters are being targeted by ICU, that would be a serious problem in my eyes.

i think these "visits" to family members, neighbours and workplaces are forms of intimidation. there are many ways to get info and we do not here this about drug dealers or car thieves. just about people who do not like the olympics.

and now that the laws regarding the police's right to know what you are surfing on the internet is changing..... i can see the opportunity for abuse of power

[LotusLand]

Originally Posted by djmk

i know canada is nothing like north korea, but that is not the point. if legitimate peaceful protesters are being targeted by ICU, that would be a serious problem in my eyes.

i think these "visits" to family members, neighbours and workplaces are forms of intimidation. there are many ways to get info and we do not here this about drug dealers or car thieves. just about people who do not like the olympics.

and now that the laws regarding the police's right to know what you are surfing on the internet is changing..... i can see the opportunity for abuse of power

Trust me when I tell you that the police do come to neighbours when they feel certain individuals on the block are involved in illegal activities, be it brothels, drugs etc... So this is no different.

Peaceful protest bring them on, defacing public property, breaking and threatening business and individuals that support the Olympics not so much and they are getting the proper attention that I feel they deserve.

[Stingray2004]

The word RIOT does not invoke "peaceful protest" by any means:



Source : Flickr

One of the ring-leaders, Garth Mullins, certainly has a tepid past.

Or maybe just a riot. Certainly that’s the none too veiled threat of Garth Mullins and his random band of anti-Olympic protesters. At least, that’s this week’s cause. The coalition carries many banners, of which the most recent reads: “Riot 2010″, which was recently unfurled over a storefront in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside.

“The press release includes quotes from such people as Garth Mullins, who readers may remember is something of a professional protester involved in the APEC protest incident, the subsequent “Riot at the Hyatt”, the G8 Summit protests in Kananskis, Alberta, the World Trade Organization riots in Seattle and most recently, in blockades involving the cross-Canada Canadian Pacific Olympic ‘Spirit Train.’”

The plucky little Vancouver Observer site reports, that Mullins is calling for a convergence of activists from around the world “to attack and disrupt the 2010 Olympic Games.”

http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/11/26/bad-olympics-bet-they-don%e2%80%99t-even-cure-cancer/#more-19960

I know how the ICU operates in terms of approaching people and I have NO qualms whatsoever with their current approach.

In the end, these so-called "peaceful protesters" are gonna cost the taxpayer a bundle in additional security costs and it's also apparent that their main goal is to give Vancouver a black-eye through whatever means.

[Whalleyboy]

is it just me or do these people make the people protesting gateway look good

[SpongeG]

these people need to focus on themselves more - maybe if they did that they could get jobs and support the poor and needy in better ways - exploiting the poor and needy is a pretty disgusting thing to do

they don't seem to live in reality

[djmk]

Originally Posted by LotusLand

Trust me when I tell you that the police do come to neighbours when they feel certain individuals on the block are involved in illegal activities, be it brothels, drugs etc... So this is no different.

Peaceful protest bring them on, defacing public property, breaking and threatening business and individuals that support the Olympics not so much and they are getting the proper attention that I feel they deserve.

i do not think you are reading my posts. ICU checks everybody who complains, peaceful or not. that may mean you as well.


google people like Peter Scott (73 year old letter writer) or Chris Shaw (a journalist)

[WarrenC12]

Always worth a listen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RyjtdNzII

[mr.x]

Absolutely disgusted by these people....I could rant on and on again about them, but you guys have already said it all.

I do hope that our legal system doesn't fall on their side.



Garth Mullins on the left and Chris Shaw on the right.

[zivan56]

If what they are saying is indeed true, then they have every right to sue the police for harassment and other things. The police do not have a right to harass/intimidate you in the guise of "suspecting" you of doing something unless they are a warrant.
This is fundamental to the charter of right and freedoms section 8, which covers reasonable privacy expectations that everyone has unless there is a warrant.

[SpongeG]

in the end this probably all plays into the protesters favour

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by djmk

i do not think you are reading my posts. ICU checks everybody who complains, peaceful or not. that may mean you as well.

You claim to know this group a lot, they surely you must know you are talking about the ISU as in "Integrated Security Unit", right?

[djmk]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You claim to know this group a lot, they surely you must know you are talking about the ISU as in "Integrated Security Unit", right?

hey one sec, are we not talking about the "Irish Canoe Union"?

my bad.

my reservations about the iSu still stands

[Fairbanks]

I would like to see the RCMP, the Vancouver Police and CSIS put the so-called members of "RESIST 2010 on the terror watchlist. Actually their names probably are already. If any member of that organization is found guilty of being involved in any non-peaceful protests regarding the Games these assholes should be kept from boarding buses, aircraft or ships, ie ferries. If any of those "flakes" have passports then they should be confiscated and further, any of those "flakes" that are not residents of BC should be rounded up and sent back where they came from.

[Fairbanks]

Originally Posted by LotusLand

Here is probably the best rant i've seen on the web about the Resist 2010 movement.

http://vancitybuzz.blogspot.com/2009/06/resist-2010-feels-bullied.html

I would like to see the RCMP, the Vancouver Police and CSIS put the so-called members of "RESIST 2010 on the terror watchlist. Actually their names probably are already. If any member of that organization is found guilty of being involved in any non-peaceful protests regarding the Games these assholes should be kept from boarding buses, aircraft or ships, ie ferries. If any of those "flakes" have passports then they should be confiscated and further, any of those "flakes" that are not residents of BC should be rounded up and sent back where they came from.

[mr.x]

^ i couldn't agree more. They are nothing more but anarchists.





- Shouting "Homes, no games!" and drowning out the scheduled entertainment, the noisy protesters chanted for more than an hour. The performers continually turned up the volume, but were eventually unable to proceed.

- "I think the idea is to make some f---in' noise here," said Garth Mullins, a fixture at anti-Olympic protests. "They're trying to drown us out, so let's drown them out."

- As the show began Sunday under the watchful eye of dozens of police officers, the protesters positioned two large banners directly in front of the stage so nobody could see the featured entertainment.

- The protesters moved over to the Canadian Pacific corporate tent at about 3:15 p.m., where they shouted anti-Olympic slogans next to a table where families were collecting autographed postcards.

[Yume-sama]

I do wonder how many events they'll be able to disrupt, and what we'll do to stop them. Hopefully we don't just stand and look as they try to interfere with events. Although I suppose they would have to pay to get inside the event, thus support the Olympics... not that any of them have jobs or could pay to get inside any event.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

I do wonder how many events they'll be able to disrupt, and what we'll do to stop them. Hopefully we don't just stand and look as they try to interfere with events. Although I suppose they would have to pay to get inside the event, thus support the Olympics... not that any of them have jobs or could pay to get inside any event.

Well, hopefully they'll have tight security. Anyone remember the online casino guy scrambling up to the podium and ripping out a mic during the speech made by the president of TOROC at the Torino Closing Ceremony? Turns out that guy was a volunteer. And remember the crazy Irish priest at Athens 2004 who pushed the first place marathoner? (he had a huge lead at first, but after that he slipped to bronze)

Who knows, maybe some of them are volunteers. If not, I'm sure they will try to get into some of the cheaper seats. Don't forget there's the free Live Site concerts (with security checks) at David Lam Park and the bus depot by Queen Elizabeth Theatre. If they do make a scene, attempt to stir up shit they will no doubt be annoyed by the crowd and I'm quite sure security will kick them out (and they will probably say how it's a violation against their rights and liberties...blah blah blah). How about some human decency instead?

These people are rats.