Winnipeg | 267 Sherbrook Ave | Sherbrook Flats | 5F | Completed

Cyro · #1 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 4:30 PM**

Proposed 14 Storey Residential (150 unit) Complex with Store Front Retail at Grade.

Located at 267 Sherbrook Ave, East side, between Portage Ave. and Broadway Ave in the West Broadway area.

Proposal includes:

-55 Stalls for parking, 43 underground, the remainder behind the building.
-Cafe 1495 sq ft fronting street.
-Storefront Space: 1175 sq ft fronting street.

Project designer: Sotirios Kotoulas.
MAA architect: George Cibinel, Cibinel Architects.
Engineer: Rob O'Toole, Crosier Kilgour & Partners Ltd.

Website: http://sotirioscorp.com/projects/267-sherbrook

Details: Executive Policy Committee – September 17, 2014
6 - Subdivision and Rezoning - 267 Sherbrook Street - DASZ 22/2014
http://www.winnipeg.ca/CLKDMIS/ViewD...pc/2014/a13836

Cyro · #2 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 4:34 PM**

I just realized the 1st picture has what looks like drones flying around the project?

Arts · #3 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 4:40 PM**

Just my comment on the design, what's with the three circular sewer outlets on the face? A number of various brutalista/70's Brazilian elements going on there.

Also, I agree that the unusual flying objects in the rendering are perplexing.

I don't really like it, but will be interesting to see if this gets built and what the final product may look like.

HomeInMyShoes · #4 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 4:50 PM**

Outside of saying I like brick this is almost entirely displeasing.

Simplicity · #5 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Arts

Just my comment on the design, what's with the three circular sewer outlets on the face? A number of various brutalista/70's Brazilian elements going on there.

Also, I agree that the unusual flying objects in the rendering are perplexing.

I don't really like it, but will be interesting to see if this gets built and what the final product may look like.

Given that the Kotoulas family owns a masonry company, I'd put the odds on this one being built at a greater rate than if one were to be contracting this out.

It'll be interesting to see, though. Definitely a costly build...

bomberguy · #6 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 5:17 PM**

Ugly.

Wigglez · #7 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 5:22 PM**

Does it have ground level retail?

Beedok · #8 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 5:23 PM**

It's . . . unique?

Flatland Metropolis · #9 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 5:52 PM**

Has sotirios built anything? Ever?

Simplicity · #10 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flatland Metropolis

Has sotirios built anything? Ever?

Couldn't tell you. Don't know anything about the guy. I was merely commenting on the fact that it's an expensive build made less expensive by being in the business.

Cyro · #11 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flatland Metropolis

Has sotirios built anything? Ever?

His Bio.
http://sotirioscorp.com/bio

Cyro · #12 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wigglez

Does it have ground level retail?

Just added some additional info to the OP.

Most of these details can be found at the COW link in the OP as well.

Flatland Metropolis · #13 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

Couldn't tell you. Don't know anything about the guy. I was merely commenting on the fact that it's an expensive build made less expensive by being in the business.

Sorry, I think I was just curious for myself really. Never really sure on their completion %

drew · #14 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:34 PM**

No sir, I don't like it.

One positive, it doesn't look like the design of building will have any trouble meeting the new Manitoba Energy Code. Which is interesting considering the design looks circa 1985.

Cyro · #15 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Outside of saying I like brick this is almost entirely displeasing.

Brick is good.

Simplicity made a good point about the family owned masonary buisness. If it improves the chances in making this project more feasable good news.

drew · #16 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:48 PM**

^ having a cheap supply of brick is fine - but it is heavy and costly to install. More money for foundation and labour.

Portmanteau · #17 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:50 PM**

This is the Pump House guy. Glad to hear he hasn't given up on Winnipeg entirely.

Cyro · #18 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

^ having a cheap supply of brick is fine - but it is heavy and costly to install. More money for foundation and labour.

Yeah, Spent a good part of my youth slinging mud, pouring foundations and hauling bricks for many a beautiful home in suburbia. Tough work to be sure.

Simplicity · #19 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

^ having a cheap supply of brick is fine - but it is heavy and costly to install. More money for foundation and labour.

Yes, but given the margins that exist in both labour and materials, having access to both at cost would at least make it a more tenable project than if one had to contract it out in its entirety. The argument might then be made that the true cost would be the cost of foregone margin available at the hands of the labour doing the work, but I'd be surprised if they didn't go to the union, anyway. That means there's an almost unlimited supply as long as there aren't tons of these projects going at once.

Fact is, we have no idea who's building this. It could be the family, or it could be a group of investors who don't, in fact, have access to this discount. Either way, it's nice that it's not a combustible 4-storey walk up with acrylic stucco. We have that to be thankful for if it comes in looking anything like the rendering...

borkborkbork · #20 Posted **Sep 18, 2014, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cyro

Proposed 14 Storey Residential (150 unit) Complex with Store Front Retail at Grade.

Located at 267 Sherbrook Ave, East side, between Portage Ave. and Broadway Ave in the West Broadway area.

Why even bother getting zoning and permits? Just build the thing, and when the city complains, claim that it's been there since the mid-eighties. Nobody will doubt it.