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Old Posted Apr 3, 2024, 11:00 PM
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200 Elgin St [Office conversion] | 33m | 11f | Proposed

District Realty to convert Elgin Street office building to residential units

David Sali, OBJ
April 3, 2024 1:57 PM ET




A company that pioneered the concept of turning downtown Ottawa office space into residential units is adding another property to the growing list of conversions in the city’s core.

District Realty plans to redevelop an 11-storey office building at 200 Elgin St. into a multi-residential complex, real estate firms CBRE and Colliers said in their first-quarter Ottawa office market reports released this week.

The project will remove roughly 140,000 square feet of space from the city’s office inventory, Colliers executive Warren Wilkinson told OBJ on Tuesday.

District Realty did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Known as the Elgar Building, the class-C structure across from city hall’s heritage building was completed in 1966. Its tenants include RBC as well as law firms and other professional services companies.

It’s the latest in a string of office-to-residential conversions planned for Ottawa’s downtown core, where the office vacancy rate has spiked since the pandemic.

As more tenants shed class-B and C office space, turning empty suites into rental apartments is an increasingly attractive proposition for landlords and developers looking for better uses for such buildings as they outlive their original purpose.

Firms such as CLV Group and Katasa Group, for example, have recently acquired large downtown office buildings with the intent of repurposing them as rental apartment complexes.

In a bid to spur more conversions, Ottawa city council approved a proposal last fall to reduce certain development fees on such projects for the next two years.

Proponents of conversions say that while not all aging office buildings are well-suited to being reborn as residential spaces, it’s an option worth looking at as the city grapples with a rising inventory of empty commercial real estate and a growing housing crisis.

“It’s not going to be the only solution, but it’s nice to see more developers taking risks on those buildings and converting them and therefore helping us with the lack of inventory on the multi-res side,” Louis Karam, managing director of CBRE’s Ottawa office, said this week.

It’s not the first time District Realty has redeveloped a downtown office building into residential units.

In 2015, the company decided to convert the top five floors of its building at 169 Lisgar St. – a separate structure connected to 200 Elgin St. – from offices to bachelor, one- and two-bedroom apartments.

District Realty repurposed about 30,000 square feet of former office space at the Lisgar Street property into 42 rental suites in response to a spike in vacancies at the class-B building, which opened in 1972. The rest of the building, comprising about 110,000 square feet, remained devoted to office space.

The firm’s executive vice-president, Jason Shinder, told the Ottawa Citizen in a 2015 interview he believed it was the first time an Ottawa office building had been converted into rental apartments.

District Realty followed that project with another conversion three years later, purchasing an eight-storey office building at 170 Metcalfe St. from the Canadian Red Cross and turning it into a 61-unit rental complex.

Shinder, now the company’s CEO, told OBJ last year the Metcalfe Street project was a “home run” and said his firm was looking to acquire other outdated office buildings in the core for the same purpose.

Office-to-residential conversions remain a “very viable” option for the company, he added, even as soaring inflation, interest rate hikes and higher cash-in-lieu of parkland fees have made such projects more expensive.

“I don’t see an occupancy risk,” Shinder said. “Ottawa’s never had a double-digit vacancy (rate) in (residential rental) product, and I don’t see that changing. If you’re building a practical, good product that meets the desires of the tenants, I think it will be full.”

https://obj.ca/district-realty-to-co...fice-building/
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Love it.
More of this please. We need more residential downtown, and there is already too much office space. Kills 2 birds with one stone.
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I'm not sure how the building at the back is a separate building.
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I'm not sure how the building at the back is a separate building.
You can kind of see it from above on google map satellite view, but if it wasnt mentioned in the article, I would for sure still think its the same building
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You can kind of see it from above on google map satellite view, but if it wasnt mentioned in the article, I would for sure still think its the same building
Oh yeah, I see it now.

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Its not a bad-looking building to start with, despite it being fairly bland. A couple of floors added to the top of the building with floor-to-calling glass windows, plus a revamped first floor would add interest to the streetscape. The area is one of the top areas to live in Ottawa, with all the walkable access to Eligin/Parliament/OttawaU; it would really benefit from the additional units.
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Its not a bad-looking building to start with, despite it being fairly bland. A couple of floors added to the top of the building with floor-to-calling glass windows, plus a revamped first floor would add interest to the streetscape. The area is one of the top areas to live in Ottawa, with all the walkable access to Eligin/Parliament/OttawaU; it would really benefit from the additional units.
Would love to see more floors added to these conversions for sure. Here's a video about an early NYC skyscraper that was converted and how they were able to add a few floors t the structure not initially built for the extra weight.

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The conversion application has been posted on DevApp. the Design Brief shows quite a change in Look for the building with added balconies etc.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...4-0044/details
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The conversion application has been posted on DevApp. the Design Brief shows quite a change in Look for the building with added balconies etc.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...4-0044/details
Does this mean that you don't have time to post everything?
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Elgar Holdings Inc. is proposing to convert the existing office suites at 200 Elgin Street into residential units.

The subject property, known municipally as 200 Elgin Street and 169 Lisgar Street, is located in the Centretown neighbourhood in the City of Ottawa. The property has a frontage of 30.11 metres along Elgin Street and 60.47 metres along Lisgar Street, resulting a total lot area of 2,427.2m2. The property is currently occupied by two (2) buildings at the 2 corresponding addresses described above. The building at 200 Elgin Street currently exists as an 11-storey office building with retail tenants located at-grade. The building at 169 Lisgar Street was recently converted from the previous office use to residential uses in 2016, similar to that which is proposed through this application.

Indoor parking is provided both under ground and above grade within the envelopes of 169 Lisgar Street and 18 Nepean Street. Access to the parking structure is provided via both Lisgar Street and Nepean Street.

The proposed conversion seeks to maintain the overall building massing as part of this application. The conversion will primarily affect aspects internal to the building alongside minor exterior changes including windows, façade upgrades, and alterations associated with the new residential uses. The existing building is an eleven-storey slab office tower. The buildings at 200 Elgin Street and 169 Lisgar Street are operationally-independent buildings but are visually conjoined.

The proposed façade changes seek to improve the visual impact of the building, helping to represent the change from an office to a residential building. Increased glazing is proposed across the building, specifically at the corner along the Lisgar Street frontage. A vertical column of windows has been proposed at the corner of the frontage, helping to create a more permeable interface with the surrounding character as well create a defined vertical corner element on the building. Additionally, greater window coverage will provide each unit with more opportunities for sunlight and outdoor views than what would not have been available with through the existing distribution of windows.

The proposed changes to the façade of 200 Elgin Street also include the addition of inset balconies along both frontages. The balconies added along the Elgin Street frontage will be setback to approximately the ground-floor building face. Along the Lisgar Street frontage, the inset balconies are shown to be inset further than the rest of the façade due to the presence of hydro wires.

The proposed development includes several amenity spaces across the building, including a rooftop terrace on the second floor, as well as a gym, party room, and theatre located on the P1 floor below-grade. The outdoor terrace takes advantage of the existing area located between the subject property and 180 Elgin Street. The terrace is located at the front of this portion of the building in order to take advantage of any exposure to sunlight and the streetscape below.

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Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...4-0044/details


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Does this mean that you don't have time to post everything?
I thought I was being sneaky
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Well that's a disappointing design. An RLA Classic.
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Well that's a disappointing design. An RLA Classic.
I dont mind it at all! I was expecting zero change to the outside so im pleasantly surprised they'll be adding balconies.
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If the charcoal brick was red, it would make all the difference.
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If the charcoal brick was red, it would make all the difference.
I did a 50km bike ride up and down the Lachine Canal and around the Old Port in MTL last weekend, and one of the things that really struck me was the amount of red brick. Old repurposed factory and loft space with red brick, and new builds with charcoal and white brick mixed with new and old red brick. Ottawa is simply lacking in colour..it's all shades of grey. CharcWhite in MTL seems to be a response and compliment to the old red brick, but in Ottawa it's a response and compliment to something that doesn't exist.
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I did a 50km bike ride up and down the Lachine Canal and around the Old Port in MTL last weekend, and one of the things that really struck me was the amount of red brick. Old repurposed factory and loft space with red brick, and new builds with charcoal and white brick mixed with new and old red brick. Ottawa is simply lacking in colour..it's all shades of grey. CharcWhite in MTL seems to be a response and compliment to the old red brick, but in Ottawa it's a response and compliment to something that doesn't exist.
Maybe a dumb question, but why is it so prominent here? Is it cheaper than red brick? There are some very obvious projects where red brick would look better (like The Clemow on Carling), so if bricks are all priced the same it's weird to use something different.
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