1040-1080 Barclay Street | 174.5m & 173m | 60Fl & 57Fl | Proposed

[LowerLonsdaleMike]

I haven't seen an official thread for this one, so I'm creating one for these twin towers next to the Patina building. Which should stir up some NIMBY's from that building complaining about loss of views, traffic/density issues, as per their campaign against the neighbouring First Baptist tower.

These two buildings are going to look amazing from Robson Street, and especially on the skyline.

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...clay/index.htm

[rofina]

High hopes!

These look amazing.

[Sheba]

I thought there was something familiar about them...

This is Büro Ole Scheeren’s second design for a downtown Vancouver development; the first being the “Jenga tower” at 1500 West Georgia Street, also for Bosa Properties.

1040-1080 Barclay Street. Credit: City of Vancouver/Bosa Properties

[Metro-One]

Fuck it, I'll say it, far too short.

Both towers are under 140 meters.

One tower should be around 170 meters, while the other 150. That would make them far more prominence and interest.

I am gutting really fucking sick of Vancouver's fear of height and stubbiness.

I know that these towers were originally envisioned to be similar in height to The Butterfly.

[officedweller]

Here are excerpts from the reports under "Site Context".

View cones don't really factor in
- as you probably know, it's the shadowing of the north sidewalk of Robson street (stupid in my view as street trees do the same thing).
Seems like the "future tower" west of The Butterfly can still go to 550 ft. (i.e. no shadowing).
They'll be almost 20 metres (about 50 ft) taller than Patina.


http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...itecontext.pdf


http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...itecontext.pdf


http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...itecontext.pdf

More renderings from the report:


http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...renderings.pdf


http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...renderings.pdf

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by officedweller

- as you probably know, it's the shadowing of the north sidewalk of Robson street (stupid in my view as street trees do the same thing).

Haha yes! I Have to highlight this! The city wants a sunny sidewalk? But wants a dense tree canopy on every single street in this city. Well you can't really have it both ways.

Also, I wonder what would happen if a tree on private property grew into a view cone making the view cone useless lol

Anyway the project looks decent. It's nice to see the balcony glass as frameless (although who knows what we will end up with) had wished Vancouver house had done that

[Metro-One]

Yeah, the shadowing concerns are even more trivial than the view cones.

Also, The Butterfly is 178 meters, not 168.

Also sad to see that other lot also limited to 168 meters, when the previous proposal (tower shown) was 188 meters.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

It's nice to see the balcony glass as frameless (although who knows what we will end up with) had wished Vancouver house had done that

I'm curious as to what constitutes "frameless"?

A co-worker said that for their Yaletown condo building many years ago, the rooftop deck glass still needed a railing (presumably so there would still be some form of barrier in place if a glass panel broke).

[Vin]

Apparently there will be a single retail unit along Thurlow. Hmmmm, not bad, better than none.

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...-1080_barclay/

[LeftCoaster]

Very disappointing height given the sites preeminence and the design.

I wrote the city and told them I thought the towers could use more height and varied height (ie 170m and 130m).

[phesto]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Very disappointing height given the sites preeminence and the design.

I wrote the city and told them I thought the towers could use more height and varied height (ie 170m and 130m).

It's due to shadowing restrictions.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I'm curious as to what constitutes "frameless"?

A co-worker said that for their Yaletown condo building many years ago, the rooftop deck glass still needed a railing (presumably so there would still be some form of barrier in place if a glass panel broke).

Frameless is just glass.

Right. I did a Reno and the city required a cap that went across. Although we took it off after inspection. Even with that requirement it isn't that noticeable


The penthouse at the mark has frameless balcony glass. Versus all the other floors.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by phesto

It's due to shadowing restrictions.

Oh I know, I was at the open house, I just think it's ridiculous.

[Metro-One]

Yes, this is very disappointing.

Although, I did guess correct!

Between 130 and 140 meters months ago

Vancouver's new table top.

[whatnext]

Article on how the last two holdouts were forced to sell. Since this is SSP I know not to expect any kind of empathy from homeowners who are dispossesed by real estate speculation (especially since they seem a bit greedy), but it is troubling to see a concrete building from 1992 eaten so quickly by the development industry. The adjacent townhouse complex was even newer.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...nerss-protests

But hey, you just can't build enough speculative investment units for out of province buyers without breaking a few eggs, right?

[officedweller]

That site is across the street.
(odd numbers)
I posted in the downtown updates thread.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Article on how the last two holdouts were forced to sell. Since this is SSP I know not to expect any kind of empathy from homeowners who are dispossesed by real estate speculation (especially since they seem a bit greedy), but it is troubling to see a concrete building from 1992 eaten so quickly by the development industry. The adjacent townhouse complex was even newer.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...nerss-protests

But hey, you just can't build enough speculative investment units for out of province buyers without breaking a few eggs, right?

You did read the article, right?

They are getting $2.7 for a $800,000 unit. I don't think that's overly unfair. And in fact, had they not been ridiculously greedy they would have received $3.5 million for their $800,000 unit.

These seems like more than fair compensation to me.

[Vanville]

[Klazu]

What is Class A bicycle parking? How does it differ from other classes? Is there a valet service perhaps?

[LeftCoaster]

Size and layout. Class B spots are more crammed together and can have less optimal storage methods (hung etc...). I think Class A are around half a meter separation and Class B are only 30cms