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Old Posted Sep 16, 2024, 12:58 AM
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Fast & Furious Ottawa

At about 1:45 am on Saturday morning I woke up to some drag racer ripping it down the 417 across the river in Kanata. It was a calm night and yes, the sound carries all the way to Aylmer across the water.

Sounds like this is a nightly occurence in Ottawa.

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I hear them sometimes in Kanata North. Often they are motorcycles. I've witnessed them going 200km+ on the highway before, looks insane....particularly when you consider the shape of our highways in Ontario!

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I’m not too far from the A50.

I hear the odd motorcycle screaming a few times during the summer but it’s not too common.

Not surprised at this though. Tons of stuff that should be policed isn’t being policed these days for some reason. It’s getting worrisome.
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It's almost nightly on the 417, and from what I hear from my parents in the burbs, on city streets as well. Saturday morning I noticed what I believe to be the OPP helo flying over the 417 in the core for quite a while (definitely wasn't Ornge from the pattern it was flying). Also seen reports online of the helo putting in work to catch bikers and other stunt drivers (though often pursuits have to be called off for safety).

Had a very close call a couple weeks ago with a stunt driver coming within inches of me while weaving through considerable traffic on the 417 at a very high rate of speed. I flashed my brights at him, partly as a half-assed f**k you and partly to try and get his plate before he was totally gone, but he hit a blackout switch and killed every exterior light on his car (yes, including license plate lights) while continuing to drive in an appalling manner. Sadly it's only a matter of time before these fools take innocent lives with them as I used to hear about all the time in the GTA.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 AM
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Tons of stuff that should be policed isn’t being policed these days for some reason. It’s getting worrisome.
On Heron over the Rideau river, traffic jammed in middle afternoon, full cars passing on the reserved bus lane. No camera, no enforcement.

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On Heron over the Rideau river, traffic jammed in middle afternoon, full cars passing on the reserved bus lane. No camera, no enforcement.
So in your mind this is an enforcement priority? Are these cars even slowing down busses are you are just fussed they are getting away with something?

So car theft, drag racing, general speeding should take a back seat to someone using a bus lane? Now when they park in a bus or bike lane absolutely these people should be towed as soon as possible but we have other enforcement priorties in the big picture more pressing than diamond lanes.
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The Heron/Bronson interchange is a favourite for the street-racing types. The ramps and curves create a VERY fun course, apparently.
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When I was a kid in the 80s these parking lots at Heron and Riverside were a hotspot for drag racing. I never went and didn't live in Ottawa at the time but even being just outside the city you'd hear about it.

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So in your mind this is an enforcement priority? Are these cars even slowing down busses are you are just fussed they are getting away with something?

So car theft, drag racing, general speeding should take a back seat to someone using a bus lane? Now when they park in a bus or bike lane absolutely these people should be towed as soon as possible but we have other enforcement priorties in the big picture more pressing than diamond lanes.
I think the wider point is that not long ago all of that was enforced. Perhaps not perfectly, but the fact that it was was clearly noticeable. Definitely compared to today.

I don't want to make this the Police Thread but if like me you've been hearing from friends and family about calling the cops and them not showing up at all, don't you find that just a bit worrisome that this is happening in Canada?
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I think the wider point is that not long ago all of that was enforced. Perhaps not perfectly, but the fact that it was was clearly noticeable. Definitely compared to today.

I don't want to make this the Police Thread but if like me you've been hearing from friends and family about calling the cops and them not showing up at all, don't you find that just a bit worrisome that this is happening in Canada?
And on top of that, their budgets keep going up every year for... reasons?
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And on top of that, their budgets keep going up every year for... reasons?
I was gonna say that. Police budgets have not gone down and neither has the number of cops.
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I was gonna say that. Police budgets have not gone down and neither has the number of cops.
Speed and traffic enforcement has likely gone down a lot since photo radar is doing the revenue collection for them (not really meeting any other safety metric tho...). I think cop resources have been re-allocated away from traffic, and I would probably say that the odds of convictions are really low with street racing (slap on the wrist, good lawyers pleading down to mis-demeanors etc..)
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Street racing is not new, at all. In my younger years, there was the Carling races from the Lady Jane (Lady Jane Donuts). (Before that, I’m sure there was another spot that had a set of lights and a straight length of wide pavement.) I don’t know how true it was, but there was always the expectation that the police would take their time getting there so that the ‘kids’ could have a bit of fun before being chased away. Straight-line, ‘drag’ racing was big back then.

So, yes, racing has always been in Ottawa. The differences, from my point of view, are that, in the (distant) past, the police would show up to send the kids home (i.e., the police were active in shutting things down) and high-speed weaving through traffic on highways seemed to be less prevalent. (Although Bankfield was a long, lonely road for high-speed ‘testing’ of a car, one or two runs was all you dared, lest the police showed up.)

I think that the comment about cars using bus-lanes is pertinent. This is the ‘Broken Window Theory’ in reverse-action. As police do less and less to prevent the seemingly minor offences, the more serious ones are encouraged. Civil disorder, and antisocial and scofflaw behaviour becomes normalized and accepted.

Young people have always found limited opportunities to have a bit of ‘fun’, but there was also the very real worry about police involvement. Now it looks as though that intimidation factor has dropped to almost nil. Racers don’t get a shot of adrenaline from getting in a quick ¼-mile race before the cops come. Now, it takes high-speed interplay with other vehicles on the roads to get the rush. That fear of failure has escalated from getting caught to losing a life.
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Street racing is not new, at all. In my younger years, there was the Carling races from the Lady Jane (Lady Jane Donuts). (Before that, I’m sure there was another spot that had a set of lights and a straight length of wide pavement.) I don’t know how true it was, but there was always the expectation that the police would take their time getting there so that the ‘kids’ could have a bit of fun before being chased away. Straight-line, ‘drag’ racing was big back then.

So, yes, racing has always been in Ottawa. The differences, from my point of view, are that, in the (distant) past, the police would show up to send the kids home (i.e., the police were active in shutting things down) and high-speed weaving through traffic on highways seemed to be less prevalent. (Although Bankfield was a long, lonely road for high-speed ‘testing’ of a car, one or two runs was all you dared, lest the police showed up.)

I think that the comment about cars using bus-lanes is pertinent. This is the ‘Broken Window Theory’ in reverse-action. As police do less and less to prevent the seemingly minor offences, the more serious ones are encouraged. Civil disorder, and antisocial and scofflaw behaviour becomes normalized and accepted.

Young people have always found limited opportunities to have a bit of ‘fun’, but there was also the very real worry about police involvement. Now it looks as though that intimidation factor has dropped to almost nil. Racers don’t get a shot of adrenaline from getting in a quick ¼-mile race before the cops come. Now, it takes high-speed interplay with other vehicles on the roads to get the rush. That fear of failure has escalated from getting caught to losing a life.
I was just going to reply something like this to Tesladom's comment that they just get a wrist-slap anyway.

When I was a kid I pushed the envelope on a few things but was never involved in anything serious and certainly no high-speed racing. Still, the idea of having an encounter with the police was a stressful proposition, even if it was just a wrist-slap (however you want to define that). I think most kids were the same back then and the idea that the cops would inevitably show up was part of the deterrent. Sure there were some kids back then who didn't care about the cops, getting fined or even going to jail. They have always existed. We know what usually happened to them in their lives.

The problem though is the growth of the latter demographic, when it starts to make up an increasingly large chunk of the younger population. Police invisibility and withdrawal definitely enables this evolution.
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I will be a troll and say:

If all this street racing was done by Tesla Model 3s, we wouldn't have a thread like this.


And i will also say, it is dangerous to chase after cars speeding that do not stop after the police lights turn on.
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I will be a troll and say:

If all this street racing was done by Tesla Model 3s, we wouldn't have a thread like this.


And i will also say, it is dangerous to chase after cars speeding that do not stop after the police lights turn on.
It's something that's not that easy to manage.

If police have a strict "do not chase" policy, then all one has to do to get away after committing a crime is to step on the accelerator pedal.
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I bet if local citizens staked out the drag at night and threw rocks at the offenders' vehicles, the police would show up pretty quick and arrest them.

The rock-throwers, I mean.
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I bet if local citizens staked out the drag at night and threw rocks at the offenders' vehicles, the police would show up pretty quick and arrest them.

The rock-throwers, I mean.
Another part of the problem right there. (You're right.)

But one thing I nor anyone can answer is: why are things like this?

Everyone thinks stuff like that is insane, but it still goes on.
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BMW driver caught after hitting 234 km/h on Ottawa highway

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