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Old Posted Jun 23, 2024, 6:39 PM
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The Economic, Human Cost of London's Car-Dependency

Hey everyone, I'd like to invite a discussion about the negative economic impacts of car use in London, Ontario.

The understanding that some folks have in this city concerning the impact of car-dependency on society's economic bottom line is frustrating. I watch the headlines and often read about Londoner after Londoner killed by another car driver, either in a car, bike, or simply a pedestrian. All too often every single one of these events is followed by armchair economists insisting individually driving their 4-person car over hectares of 3.5m wide roads is the most efficient and beneficial use of resources for our city of London, Ontario - subtly suggesting or even outright stating that these deaths are normal, acceptable, and the status quo is preferred (unless they themselves or someone they love has been impacted...)

Here's a recap of the last few months of headlines involving car drivers hitting Londoners with their cars:


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| Date | Location | Outcome for Driver | Outcome for Pedestrian | Truncated Headline |
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| Jun 22, 2024 | Wellington & Commissioners roads | No consequences | Taken to hospital | Police probe shut... |
| Jun 17, 2024 | Wonderland N & Oxford West | Fled scene | Serious injuries | Pedestrian serio... |
| Jun 4, 2024 | Dundas & Colborne streets | No information | Unknown injuries | Person on electr... |
| Jun 22, 2024 | Sunset Road & Fingal Line, St. Thomas | Fled scene | Killed | Police investiga... |
| Mar 13, 2024 | Adelaide Street bridge near King Street | Remained at scene | Killed | London pedestria... |
| Mar 7, 2024 | Commissioners Road East near Highbury Avenue | Remained at scene | Serious injuries | Roads reopen aft... |
| Jan 24, 2024 | Highway 4 near 14 Mile Road | No information | Killed | Pedestrian kille... |
| Mar 13, 2024 | Adelaide Street North bridge, south of King | Remained at scene | Killed | Pedestrian dies ... |
| Jan 12, 2024 | Veterans Memorial Parkway, north of Hamilton | Remained at scene | Life-threatening | Pedestrian fight... |
| Nov 13, 2023 | Adelaide Street North and Glenora Drive | Remained at scene | Killed | Pedestrian kille... |


As someone who bikes regularly to their job, allowing my partner to drive my car to work enables us to be a 1-car family, thus saving at least $350/month, which is an extra $4,200 in disposable income we spend at local businesses. Culturally, I know for a fact that if I'm the one in the headlines next, the very same folks will come out to make the same comments that, at best, stem from a fundamental misunderstanding of how civil finance and walkability interact to effect the average London taxpayer.


Let's break down the real economic impact of car dependency in London:

1. Cars Hurt the Economy by Killing Londoners
• Each life lost represents a significant economic blow to our city. These aren't just statistics; they're taxpayers, workers, family members, and consumers, removed from our local economy.
• For instance, if we conservatively estimate each person's economic activity at $50,000 per year, losing at least four citizens annually (as we do in London apparently) equates to a $200,000 annual loss to our economy.
• The ripple effect on families is substantial. Any income earner's death can cripple a family's finances, increase reliance on deficit-facing services like mental health care, and reducing overall economic productivity of the entire family.

2. Cars Hurt the Economy by Reducing Business Traffic
• Our obsession with parking has turned vibrant areas like our downtown area into concrete slabs of road and parking. Just look at the difference between the Victoria Park area, the foot traffic those businesses have, and then look merely four blocks south to the parking lots surrounding London's train station – which area generates more economic activity per square foot?
• Studies show that walkable cities have higher property values and more successful businesses, which leads to higher city revenue for services like road maintenance and traffic enforcement. For example, a study by the City of Toronto found that pedestrian-friendly areas saw 40% lower commercial vacancy rates compared to car-centric areas.
• The land used for downtown parking, especially parking lots adjacent to the Bus Rapid Transit stops, is an objectively poor economic use of the space. One might even find several locations downtown where a parking spot may generate less revenue than a mature tree in the same spot - the knock-on effects of shade, walkability, air quality, street traffic, would replace what the square footage a parking spot would earn in annual revenue.

3. Car Dependency Diminishes Livability and Societal Health
• The "loneliness epidemic" isn't just a social issue; it's an economic one. Isolated people are less productive and more likely to require mental health services. Walkable areas are more social, and high sociality is directly linked to happiness - and happy citizens are more productive citizens (since we don't value happiness outright in Canada ~gestures angrily around at everything~).
• Noise pollution from traffic isn't just annoying – it's linked to decreased property values and increased health care costs. The WHO estimates that traffic noise in Western Europe alone costs society at least €40 billion per year. Our downtown is dead quiet at times when there's no cars driving by, but in contrast - Frank & Furter's patio on King's absolutely sucks with the amount of motor exhaust settling onto your plate. Barney's consistently has motorcycles intentionally ripping away from their patio too.
• Air pollution from cars contributes to health issues, increasing healthcare costs and reducing productivity. The Canadian Medical Association estimated that air pollution costs Canada $8 billion annually in health care expenses.
• Car dependency disproportionately affects our most vulnerable citizens. Those who can't afford or are unable to drive a car face significant barriers to employment, healthcare, and social participation.

No one's suggesting to ban anything in a hyperbolic manner, though we should make the realization that in later decades every single Londoner will benefit from "severe" policies like congestion taxes, for those insisting not to use the (if-ever-practical) rapid transit system downtown. Every Londoner would economically benefit from a mental shift in our infrastructure planning towards a city with less cars. This means:

• Investing in protected bike lanes and pedestrian infrastructure by reducing 4-lane roads to 2-lane roads. (Candidates like York St., Richmond St.)
• Improving public transit frequency, coverage, and holding fares against inflation for several years
• Review each parking spot in the downtown core, first removing city on-street parking spots, whilst changing policy to discourage private surface lots.
• Enable trees to be planted immediately next to roadways, granted things like utilities enable.


By making these changes, we can create a London that's not only more economically vibrant but also safer, healthier, and more financially accessible for working class families.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you feel like London is shifting in a better or worse direction in this sense?


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Old Posted Jun 23, 2024, 7:52 PM
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I’m in London right now visiting from BC, London is where I grew up. As a resident of a highly walkable part of Metro Vancouver, I am always struck at how car dependent London is whenever I’m back. Where my parents live in the west end, there’s no walkability whatsoever - you have to drive everywhere, or pay $3.50 to catch a bus that comes once an hour on Sundays or every 30 minutes the rest of the week. It’s incredibly isolating. And there’s a notable lack of “third places” - if you want a coffee shop, your only choice is Tim Hortons in this particular area.

Also striking is the continued construction of single family home subdivisions, in areas like Lambeth, and outside the city around Komoka - with very little commercial development that one can walk to. Most of the new areas have no public transit whatsoever.

I am also struck at how dead the streets are, both in the suburbs and downtown. Lots of cars but very few people. (The heat wave this week may be contributing to this, in fairness)

There are more walkable parts of London than where I grew up, but it’s still nothing like the dense areas of Metro Vancouver, or Toronto, or Montreal.

London’s problems will take decades to fix as many Londoners are happy with the status quo and have chosen this community because of its car dependency and Quiet Neighbourhoods™
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Simple fact is that as much as we bitch, London isn't really that hard to get around by car and easy to park wherever you want to go. We went to a sold out concert at Bud Gardens Saturday night, got there 45 minutes after doors opened and had no problem parking a 5 minute walk away. Sure, a couple streets are hard to travel a couple times a day but we aren't gridlocked.

The transit system is pretty basic, our civic leaders all drive cars, none take the bus until election time when they are invited for a ride along with the LTC GM to discuss transit issues, so there is no real political will to improve it. This new BRT system hardly has any fans, even amongst pro-transit people, and the city doesn't even have budget set up to start to operate it when the first routes are ready to go in a couple years. Never mind that it's not being built to serve the people that would probably use it most, university students. Current routes are not very conveniently scheduled and too downtown specific. We lived in Byron and if my kids had to take LTC to or from Saunders, it would take as long as it would to get to Montcalm the other side of town, because of how crappy the routes were timed.
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London lacks proper car infrastructure as well which adds to frustration. Most car-centric cities have many 6 lane roads (sometimes 8 lanes) and some municipal freeways and/or bypasses.

Since London has none of this stuff, those longer-distance journeys take place on narrow city streets and can cause a lot of stress for drivers, causing them to take more aggressive risks on the road.

The good news is we don't really need to do expensive transformative projects to turn these blights of infrastructure into something else. However, that also means the progressive news stories about them are gone as well.

Not Just Bikes and others like to rip on London and I do concede he has many valid points, but the city is either average on some things or well above average when it comes to big 'stroads' or inner city freeways that cut neighbourhoods off from one-another.

We're making good progress in some areas such as the BRT (half-assed but something), adding bike lanes and some are even decently-protected bike lanes, removing pork-chop style right turn lanes at intersection rebuilds (these are terrible for pedestrians), road diets, lowering speed limits, etc. There is still lots to be done but I think London is making decent progress... sure maybe not as much as we'd like but at least it's something.
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"Two-vehicle crash claims one life, sends two others to hospital east of London"

East Zorra-Tavistock, north of Woodstock. A rural road intersected by a two stop signs.

One person killed, one seriously injured, and one taken to the hospital as a precaution.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...road-1.7255105

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"Two-vehicle crash claims one life, sends two others to hospital east of London"

East Zorra-Tavistock, north of Woodstock. A rural road intersected by a two stop signs.

One person killed, one seriously injured, and one taken to the hospital as a precaution.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...road-1.7255105

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You presumably have posted this news article in support of this thread you started advocating the reduction/restrictions in personal automobile use (and reduction/removal of infrastructure to support that). In that, you assert that the personal use of automobiles should be replaced whenever possible by expanded public transit, bicycles, walking, 15 minute neighbourhoods, etc. You even mention a congestion tax to make it financially impractical to use a personal vehicle.

In the news piece you posted above, the traffic incident occurred in a very rural location. How does the occurrence of this particular incident support your assertions? The area is mainly agricultural, with homes and businesses widely spread apart. The space between towns is measured in 10’s of kilometres or more. How would the alternatives to traditional automobile use that you list be employed (or imposed) in a location such as this? How does the tragedy of a fatality in a car accident in a location and circumstance such as this one support your theories about personal automobile reductions and replacement with the alternatives that you outlined above?
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You presumably have posted this news article in support of this thread you started advocating the reduction/restrictions in personal automobile use (and reduction/removal of infrastructure to support that). In that, you assert that the personal use of automobiles should be replaced whenever possible by expanded public transit, bicycles, walking, 15 minute neighbourhoods, etc. You even mention a congestion tax to make it financially impractical to use a personal vehicle.

In the news piece you posted above, the traffic incident occurred in a very rural location. How does the occurrence of this particular incident support your assertions? The area is mainly agricultural, with homes and businesses widely spread apart. The space between towns is measured in 10’s of kilometres or more. How would the alternatives to traditional automobile use that you list be employed (or imposed) in a location such as this? How does the tragedy of a fatality in a car accident in a location and circumstance such as this one support your theories about personal automobile reductions and replacement with the alternatives that you outlined above?
Rural areas can benefit from multi-use trails as well. Essex County has a network of rural bike paths that can be used to travel inbetween towns. As well, the abundancy and over-reliance on cars in our transit network increases the total amount of cars driving on all roads at all times - period. If everyone needs a car, there will be more raw car deaths. It's simple statistics. I don't want these people to die - yet they did, and it's absolutely avoidable.

These people could have been your family members - what if the other car simply wasn't there because our culture encouraged less people to drive in general? Currently, lots of city folk speed down rural roads unsafely to avoid congestion in the city, too. Heck, I totally forgot about the possibility that Southwestern Ontario could run a between-town bus system like they did the Greyhound, allowing members of these rural communities to safely access other municipalities - but our culture doesn't understand that transit systems don't need to turn a profit when the R.O.I. on the local economy is greater than the cost of the transit system. The many rural villages in the U.K. connected by bus comes to mind.

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"One hurt in crash involving cyclist: London police"

City area - Adelaide and Cheapside

"One person was taken to hospital with unknown injuries following the collision at the intersection of Rabb and Boulee."

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/...n-deadly-crash
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Rural areas can benefit from multi-use trails as well. Essex County has a network of rural bike paths that can be used to travel inbetween towns. As well, the abundancy and over-reliance on cars in our transit network increases the total amount of cars driving on all roads at all times - period. If everyone needs a car, there will be more raw car deaths. It's simple statistics. I don't want these people to die - yet they did, and it's absolutely avoidable.

These people could have been your family members - what if the other car simply wasn't there because our culture encouraged less people to drive in general? Currently, lots of city folk speed down rural roads unsafely to avoid congestion in the city, too. Heck, I totally forgot about the possibility that Southwestern Ontario could run a between-town bus system like they did the Greyhound, allowing members of these rural communities to safely access other municipalities - but our culture doesn't understand that transit systems don't need to turn a profit when the R.O.I. on the local economy is greater than the cost of the transit system. The many rural villages in the U.K. connected by bus comes to mind.
I've taken that road to get to Costco from where I live in NW Woodstock. Pretty hard to do a Costco run by transit bus.
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Few Public transit systems turn a profit. Same as our road and bike path networks. They all required taxpayer subsidies to get built and operate. It's interesting to see in Japan that the employers subsidizes their employees transit fees.



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I've taken that road to get to Costco from where I live in NW Woodstock. Pretty hard to do a Costco run by transit bus.
Are you assuming that, because you personally won't have your behaviour changed if improvements are made to non-private vehicle transit, that your surroundings will be unaffected also? I'm not trying to control you, Djeffery. I'm simply motivated to not have death-via-car be a constant statistic in our culture.

In Windsor last week, there was another person killed, and an 8-year old boy on a bicycle struck this past Thursday. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I believe that if I were to become numb to these deaths and find them acceptable, I'd be a horrible human.
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If our culture wasn't so car-dependent, you wouldn't need to drive to Costco... you could bike to a local grocer. But our culture doesn't value that currently.

I'd encourage you to check out the Youtube Channel of Ben Durham, especially this video here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyi-v94DJso&t=358s>. In this video he responds to the circular logic that specifically mentions Costco as the reason for car-dependency.


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Are you assuming that, because you personally won't have your behaviour changed if improvements are made to non-private vehicle transit, that your surroundings will be unaffected also? I'm not trying to control you, Djeffery. I'm simply motivated to not have death-via-car be a constant statistic in our culture.


If our culture wasn't so car-dependent, you wouldn't need to drive to Costco... you could bike to a local grocer. But our culture doesn't value that currently.

I'd encourage you to check out the Youtube Channel of Ben Durham, especially this video here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyi-v94DJso&t=358s>. In this video he responds to the circular logic that specifically mentions Costco as the reason for car-dependency.
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The pretending we can keep the same lifestyle and have transit and bike as additional options is a specious argument.
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Interesting article about London's police charging for Access to Information when other's don't.

The information requested was:

The number of motor vehicle collisions involving a pedestrian from 2021 to present.
The number of motor vehicle collisions involving a cyclist 2021 to present.
The number of reported car thefts 2021 to present.
The number of recovered stolen vehicles 2021 to present.

"Waterloo Regional Police Service, Windsor Police Service and Peel Regional Police all provided CBC News the data for free, and within a few days."

I think it's concerning that our local culture seems to not want to proactively understand how these people are involved in dangerous collisions. Could we not accept the practice of legally requiring road design to change if there's a death caused by traffic?

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The pretending we can keep the same lifestyle and have transit and bike as additional options is a specious argument.
Specious in which manner? There's no untruth hidden behind the statement - I didn't want to belabour the point that improving cycling and public transit improves private-vehicle congestion. Here's a quick Youtube video explaining: https://sharetheroad.ca/environmenta...ts-of-cycling/. "Cycling can also reduce congestion and the journey times of other road users, particularly in urban areas." Also, "Investing in active transportation and public transport can also help to reduce congestion, reduce delays from collisions, reduce the unreliability of travel time, reduce fuel and transport costs and improve residents’ ability to access facilities and services."


You're right that "The same lifestyle" is technically changed, but then we're literally becoming the meme of stoning the neighbor who says "We Should Improve Things Somewhat".

Which begs the question... Are we allowed to improve things somewhat?


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Interesting article about London's police charging for Access to Information when other's don't.

The information requested was:

The number of motor vehicle collisions involving a pedestrian from 2021 to present.
The number of motor vehicle collisions involving a cyclist 2021 to present.
The number of reported car thefts 2021 to present.
The number of recovered stolen vehicles 2021 to present.

"Waterloo Regional Police Service, Windsor Police Service and Peel Regional Police all provided CBC News the data for free, and within a few days."

I think it's concerning that our local culture seems to not want to proactively understand how these people are involved in dangerous collisions. Could we not accept the practice of legally requiring road design to change if there's a death caused by traffic?



Specious in which manner? There's no untruth hidden behind the statement - I didn't want to belabour the point that improving cycling and public transit improves private-vehicle congestion. Here's a quick Youtube video explaining: https://sharetheroad.ca/environmenta...ts-of-cycling/. "Cycling can also reduce congestion and the journey times of other road users, particularly in urban areas." Also, "Investing in active transportation and public transport can also help to reduce congestion, reduce delays from collisions, reduce the unreliability of travel time, reduce fuel and transport costs and improve residents’ ability to access facilities and services."


You're right that "The same lifestyle" is technically changed, but then we're literally becoming the meme of stoning the neighbor who says "We Should Improve Things Somewhat".

Which begs the question... Are we allowed to improve things somewhat?


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My point is we could invest as much as you want on bike lanes and transit and it won't work with the built form and tax rates we have. This is not Manhattan nor is it the Netheralnds. People with similar jobs in London are living on probably twice the space as someone in Rotterdam. I actully agree we'd all be happier and healthier adapting a more European lifestyle but it requires tradeoffs we have consitently not been willing to make.
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My point is...it won't work with the built form and tax rates we have. ...I actully agree we'd all be happier and healthier adapting a more European lifestyle but it requires tradeoffs we have consitently not been willing to make.
Have you watched this video per chance? I want to assume you haven't, because the scientific evidence strongly, consistently, concludes these concepts can be applied almost anywhere - especially in typical North American municipalities like London, which are more identical than they are different. Bike lanes, transit, and lessening private-vehicle ownership benefits the local economy. https://i.ytimg.com/an_webp/7Nw6qyyr...JFlM4Kme1a5JkA.

I've never been to Rotterdam or Manhattan personally... but I have been to Montreal and Toronto! The former more than the latter is making great strides, but those places are nearby - have you been to the redeveloped parts of Montreal lately? Even smaller Canadian cities like Halifax are getting it done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxNoPe5xSQM

If we included these things, and changed our culture to acknowledge these efforts as beneficial to our quality of life (aka make these tradeoffs), our tax base and land-use form would improve and create more revenue per square inch, refuting the sentiment that these things are luxuries. In fact, private vehicle ownership is the luxury. I'm curious to learn more if this recent knowledge isn't mainstream yet, or what sentiment leads people to resist something they acknowledge is better.

If videos aren't your thing, here's some research studies done from a city 2 hours away from London, supporting my claims and refuting the claim these are things we can't/don't wanna/shouldn't work towards.


Business is Up on Bloor After Bike Lane, New Study Finds: https://tcat.ca/business-is-up-on-bl...w-study-finds/
Bike Lanes, On-Street Parking and Business | Parkdale (2016) and Danforth (2014): https://tcat.ca/resources/bike-lanes...dale-danforth/
Bloor Street West Bike Lane Pilot Project Evaluation: https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/up...ile-107582.pdf

Arancibia, D., Farber, S., Savan, B., Verlinden, Y., Smith Lea, N., Allen, J., & Vernich, L. (2019). Measuring the local economic impacts of replacing on-street parking with bike lanes: A toronto (canada) case study. Journal of the American Planning Association, 85(4), 463-481.
Problem, research strategy, and findings: Bike lane projects on retail streets have proved contentious among merchant associations in North America, especially when they reduce on-street parking. A limited but growing number of studies, however, detect neutral to positive consequences for merchants following bike lane implementation. In 2016, the City of Toronto (Canada) removed 136 on-street parking spots and installed a pilot bike lane on a stretch of Bloor Street, a downtown retail corridor. Using a case–control and pre–post design, we surveyed merchants and shoppers to understand the impacts of the bike lanes on economic activities. We find no negative economic impacts associated with the bike lanes: Monthly customer spending and number of customers served by merchants both increased on Bloor Street during the pilot.

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June 13th 65-year old man killed; collision between motorcyle, private vehicle.
July 13th, 30-year old man killed; collision between motorcyle, private vehicle.
June 23rd, 74-year old killed.
June 15th, two people killed, collision between motorcyle, private vehicle.
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/...don-area-roads

July 17th, three London community members killed in New Brunswick vehicle collision.
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/...-vehicle-crash

July 16th, 28-year old man killed; collision between private vehicle and semi-truck.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...rash-1.7265970

July 18th, cyclist killed; collision between bicycle and vehicle.
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/...h-elgin-county


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That is quite a casualty list, in such a short time period.
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That is quite a casualty list, in such a short time period.
Time period? More like time span - a continuous span, not a discrete period.


This amount of death and destruction caused by private vehicle use will not stop and will continue at a constant rate into the future (approximately 0.54% of all Canadians, culled annually) - the party won't stop just cuz I drive in! Ontario has approximately ~500 fatal collisions annually. (London having 447,255/15,801,768) 2.8% of Ontario's population, we can crudely, roughly, expect 14.15 Londoners to die this year. "Vision Zero"? "Vision 10-Fatalities/Year" would be a more attainable goal.

"The 530 fatal collisions in Ontario in 2021 resulted in the deaths of 592 persons, including 375 drivers, 95 passengers, and 92 pedestrians." (Source: https://www.g1.ca/driving-statistics/) - and this rate has been constant for the past decade. So that's 592 Ontarians sacrificed to the SunGod-er I mean CarGod each year.

Who knows! Maybe this year your children or loved ones will pull the lucky number! I wonder if private-vehicle advocates change their mind when reality hits too close to home... oh well!



July 29th, 2024: a 42-year old man was killed, no consequences for the killer. No consequential changes to the road design planned.
https://london.ctvnews.ca/cyclist-ki...ruck-1.6984050

July 30th, 2024, three people critically injured, one life-threatening injury. No consequential changes to the road design planned.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...ital-1.7280655

July 25th, 2024, ~16 year old boy hanging on for life in the hospital. No consequential changes to the road design planned.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...ndon-1.7268972

July 19th, 2019, (current article past event) but a good reminder that the pain never goes away when you lose a loved one to a private vehicle. The absolute arbitrary, preventable, and senseless nature of these deaths leaves no closure, no solace, and very little room to heal. As Londoners interested in the city's development, it's important we all take a moment to open each of these pictures, full screen, and stare into the eyes of these boys. To not do so is to invite the potential of building a city with the death of children numbly designed into its fabric.
Pictures from CBC: https://imgur.com/a/MRoPfMa
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...ptsd-1.6907180

"...the night he rushed to his friend's side, moments after Roby was struck by a car and thrown more than 30 feet in the air and onto the shoulder of the road."

"...the pair were riding on the curb of Exeter Road single file..."

"...I was covered in blood..."


No consequential changes to the road design planned.



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