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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 2:46 AM
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We all thought a 33% reduction in capacity for bike lanes would be carmageddon, and that never happened; temporarily stopping one lane for a few seconds every 6-20 minutes won't be either.
Having the bus stop in the lane saves time, because the time saved by the many people on the bus (due to not having to merge back into traffic) is larger than the time lost by the few in cars. It is like Spock said, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 2:47 AM
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We all thought a 33% reduction in capacity for bike lanes would be carmageddon, and that never happened; temporarily stopping one lane for a few seconds every 6-20 minutes won't be either.
LOL that tired old talking point. Anyone who uses the bridge knows you now have cars idling longer. I thought it was all about the emissions, so how does that help?

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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 2:50 AM
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Except they've gone through the detail of putting lines on the road in the model and it is clear that bus is stopped in one (wide) lane leaving just one lane for through traffic.
All the renderings/diagrams have 2 lanes + a pullout.

https://senakw.com/img/design/update...t%20Hub_1.jpeg
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 3:06 AM
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You can't give a car (traffic) to much of a free lane here (you give them an inch and they will take a mile) you need some kind of a restriction for speeders to take caution when buses are pulling over or remerging into traffic.
Some drivers consider a bridge deck as a highway (I'm guilty of that), I see and hear them on the gas pedal every evening and through the night on that bridge.
Be patient...You'll get there.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 3:09 AM
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LOL that tired old talking point. Anyone who uses the bridge knows you now have cars idling longer. I thought it was all about the emissions, so how does that help?
Pfft, a dozen cars idling for all of twenty seconds - the horror. Easily outweighed by all the ex-drivers who switched to the bus.

At any rate, jolly's pointed out there's enough room for both two lanes and a bus lane, so you're overreacting again.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 4:32 AM
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We all thought a 33% reduction in capacity for bike lanes would be carmageddon, and that never happened; temporarily stopping one lane for a few seconds every 6-20 minutes won't be either.
Absolutely, although I think the pull out will be wide enough to let cars pass
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2024, 5:59 AM
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Page 137 of the Services Agreement shows what it will look like. Basically they reclaim the current bike lane for the pullouts.



https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/senak...-agreement.pdf
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Tighter photo of the balconies from Westbank

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2024, 11:12 PM
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Do all new residential buildings have to be air conditioned? I’m assuming these will be.
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Tighter photo of the balconies from Westbank

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The squared of corners of selected balconies must be for the Y shaped architectural features.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2024, 2:13 AM
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Last tower in phase 1 got it's concrete pump installed.

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We all thought a 33% reduction in capacity for bike lanes would be carmageddon, and that never happened; temporarily stopping one lane for a few seconds every 6-20 minutes won't be either.
It may not be carmageddon, but it is definitely bad design if traffic would be halted due to buses stopping, especially when there is a simple solution to just widen the bus stopping lane/pullout so that other motorists do not need to stop during normal circumstances.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2024, 9:48 PM
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It may not be carmageddon, but it is definitely bad design if traffic would be halted due to buses stopping, especially when there is a simple solution to just widen the bus stopping lane/pullout so that other motorists do not need to stop during normal circumstances.
"Bad" design is subjective. Some people would call it "good" design for making drivers slow down instead of forcing the bus to wait behind traffic to pull out.

At any rate, Burrard Street might be clogged, but there's a lot less cars on the actual bridge than you think. From firsthand experience, you can even jaywalk it sometimes.
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