City of Hamilton General Discussion Thread

[ScreamingViking]

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City councillors seem more interested in other issues, especially those who represent the central lower city.

But heritage (and promoting quality for the "Hamilton" that gets built) are important.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by Hawrylyshyn

There should definitely be more work/effort put into maintaining these buildings, or atleast incorporating the facades into these modern condos. In general the DRP seems to focus on the wrong aspects -- they care way more about things like height guidelines than design and ground level design.

I do want to note that it appears 33 Bowen will not be destroyed for 96 Main St E (thankfully).

Totally agreed on all those points.

And yes we were all kinda up in arms about that was it wasn't clear.. it's safe.. FOR NOW.

It's definitely one of the oldest buildings in the city, and sadly not very visible - but could definitely be very popular if it was sandwiched between 2 new builds on each side. The area south of sapporo is definitely a wasteland of potential building area I'd love to see filled up, just not at the cost of our character, nor our heritage.

[Innsertnamehere]

Get ready for the urban boundary expansion debate to bubble up again..

At the next planning committee:

https://pub-hamilton.escribemeetings...umentId=413655

The province recently changed the planning act which allows developers to submit and subsequently appeal urban boundary expansion applications. This was not previously possible, with sole control resting in the hands of municipalities.

This came into effect June 6th. By June 27, developers had appealed an application they had already made.

Hamilton Council ran it's little victory lap around Urban Boundary Expansion, but little do they know that the province was maneuvering behind them to set the stage for the city to get it's urban boundary expansion through another method.. This time, developer-led.

My bet is that this is far from the last privately-initiated application for urban boundary expansion which will come forward, either.

[ScreamingViking]

One thing you can say about the Ford government... it's relentless.

[TheHonestMaple]

i'm more interested in the upcoming encampment debate. Looks like a small civil war brewing among council.

[zeroday]

Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

i'm more interested in the upcoming encampment debate. Looks like a small civil war brewing among council.

Does anyone know when this debate his happening?...it's going to be a slugfest as I've been noticing how polarized council is becomng.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

i'm more interested in the upcoming encampment debate. Looks like a small civil war brewing among council.

They should all be shut down just on sanitation issues alone. Unless you want to see depression-era diseases return.

[ScreamingViking]

The reality is, it's a very small part of society... very visible in some cases, though. And governments don't seem to want to deal with it (my personal view is that cities shouldn't have to... it's a problem higher levels of gov't should be handling)

[TheHonestMaple]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

The reality is, it's a very small part of society... very visible in some cases, though. And governments don't seem to want to deal with it (my personal view is that cities shouldn't have to... it's a problem higher levels of gov't should be handling)

Yes a very small population that is causing devastating negative impact on society.

[rdaner]

I am now of the opinion that the drugs today are so damaging that the users who end up on the streets need to be physically isolated from accessing it meaning either confinement or relocation outside of population centres.

[TheHonestMaple]

Some people are so naive that they think that allowing these people to camp in parks, providing them with food and safe drug paraphernalia is helping them. No. Help will only take the form of forced treatment in rehabilitation centres, not optional. And even then, most of these people are so badly damaged they likely will never recover and rejoin society.

Hopefully some sort of political and social change happens in the next few years, where our government wakes up and starts building large treatment centres across the country, and forces these people into them. Yes, i'm talking apprehending them. That is literally the only solution. Yes, it's going to be expensive. But what choice do we have. This epidemic of harmful drugs is literally ruining our cities.

[matt602]

Originally Posted by rdaner

I am now of the opinion that the drugs today are so damaging that the users who end up on the streets need to be physically isolated from accessing it meaning either confinement or relocation outside of population centres.

Aka making drug addiction and homelessness illegal

[downtown_eddie_brown]

Originally Posted by matt602

Aka making drug addiction and homelessness illegal

small government for me, big government for you

Again, housing-first policies are proven to work, and would be cheaper than locking homeless people up in concentration camps for indeterminate periods of time.

[TheHonestMaple]

Originally Posted by downtown_eddie_brown

small government for me, big government for you

Again, housing-first policies are proven to work, and would be cheaper than locking homeless people up in concentration camps for indeterminate periods of time.

Nothing worse than denying reality. 'Housing first' solutions simply do not work, and are only pushed by far left (literal communists like Sara Jama push this narrative) ideologues. Zero evidence that these solutions work, plenty of evidence that they cause more harm.

What works is drug addiction treatment. No one is suggesting 'concentration camps'. We're talking about enforcing the law (sorry but doing drugs in public are literally illegal), and providing the much needed help to these people that desperately need it. Providing them a free room does nothing but enable addiction.

You're on the wrong side of history on this one.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by downtown_eddie_brown

small government for me, big government for you

I think matt602 was being sarcastic, based on post history.

But cities should not be left alone to deal with this. It's a societal issue. And I think it will take a combination of policies to help mitigate it.

[TheHonestMaple]

Originally Posted by matt602

Aka making drug addiction and homelessness illegal

They both already are illegal, yet no court or police want to enforce the law on the books. left wing activism has infested the legal system.

[TheRitsman]

Could just grind them into paste

[matt602]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

I think matt602 was being sarcastic, based on post history.

I absolutely was.