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Old Posted Oct 22, 2024, 12:45 AM
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Partially excavated townhouse project switches to 6 storey condos under the provincial TOD requirements
https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/520-590...10-4550-ash-st
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Projects like this should proliferate quite quickly, given how quickly the 6 story condo buildings have gone up right along Cambie. I believe you are given a bit more FSR now for these 6 story projects off Cambie (vs on Cambie).

A huge swath of single family homes along the Cambie Corridor that will be redeveloped.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2024, 4:49 AM
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Hopefully, we also get 33rd and 57th stations sometime before 2050.
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Partially excavated townhouse project switches to 6 storey condos under the provincial TOD requirements
https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/520-590...10-4550-ash-st
Similar massing as this 5 storey project at 625-691 West 33rd (at Heather).

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/625-691-w-33-ave


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Partially excavated townhouse project switches to 6 storey condos under the provincial TOD requirements
https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/520-590...10-4550-ash-st
The townhouse project was going to be a strata. The replacement 6 storey building is proposed to be rental, with 20% renting below market. The developer and the architect are the same.

Presumably the pre-purchased townhouse buyers get their down payment back.
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Hopefully, we also get 33rd and 57th stations sometime before 2050.
57th might happen; the City have a fund to potentially build it, although TransLink don't seem keen, and it's bound to be very expensive. You can forget 33rd.
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Can someone explain why this has to go through a rezoning process?

I thought the whole point of TOA was to allow proponents to go straight to applying for development permits and skip rezoning?
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2024, 12:51 AM
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They still have to rezone them, but cities have to make area plans around the station that supports the required densities. Cities are then not allowed to deny a project based on density or height if it meets the TOD maximums. It's a bit of a grey area as they could technically be denied based on other reasons, so my understanding is it still requires the cities to play fair a bit.

It makes sense that we will still need the rezoning process, since that is how we currently procure services, amenities, and dedications etc. in this province, so that will be needed for higher density projects vs multiplexes
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They still have to rezone them, but cities have to make area plans around the station that supports the required densities. Cities are then not allowed to deny a project based on density or height if it meets the TOD maximums. It's a bit of a grey area as they could technically be denied based on other reasons, so my understanding is it still requires the cities to play fair a bit.

It makes sense that we will still need the rezoning process, since that is how we currently procure services, amenities, and dedications etc. in this province, so that will be needed for higher density projects vs multiplexes
And in this specific case, the site has already been rezoned for the townhouse project, so to permit something at a density and height that's more than double the current townhouse zoning, it has to be rezoned again.

In future the Cambie Corridor Plan could be amended so that there wouldn't have to be a rezoning here that meets the TOD requirements, but that hasn't happened yet.

The City (or more accurately, the politicians) have been talking about making rezoning happen faster, but with so many projects submitted, and only so many rezoning planners and Public Hearings on the Council schedule, there's not a lot of evidence of most rezonings being processed faster.
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Speaking of "clearing red tape," didn't the previous Council let six-floor buildings and under jump the queue as long as they met the zoning?
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Speaking of "clearing red tape," didn't the previous Council let six-floor buildings and under jump the queue as long as they met the zoning?
The que to be before a Public Hearing for the rezoning approval?

I'll add that you can rezone to the townhome zone or the RR rental zone and it's more of a formality, legal change and that still goes to Council (no drawings and stuff required), but I nice addition to the TOA policy is if the TOA policy and Cambie Plan don't quite match you can utilize the RR zone and rezone to a CD-1... which looks to require drawings, etc. So... ya the red tape is still there.

In Cambie, once the Broadway tower district schedules are released by 2025, I'd imagine the same CD-1 process would be required if you wanted to build a tower in Cambie where they Plan says no but the TOA says yes

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