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Does Steven Guilbeault (or anyone on his team) even know about or understand any of that?
From what I understand, federal parks used to be public government-owned land, and they’ll now switch to becoming public government-owned land, which I’m sure is a paradigm shift () for both park users and Canadian taxpayers (and that bold move will likely get the Liberals reelected next year).
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I would bet that most of the land in this announcement is in English Canada so Yes Guilbeault knows exactly what he is doing and won't give two fucks after he is out of Office. Another Liberal policy to be reversed.
I know it is a difficult concept. But it comes down to asking the people who live near a park, natural resources projects etc. for input before you do something in their neighborhood.
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Is this sarcasm? Seems to me it's the usual virtue signalling and consuting.
I expect the Poilievre government will repeal whatever it is the Liberals attempt.
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Behold an example of consulting with tribes and managing a protected area with their help:


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B.C. waters now home to Canada's largest marine protected area

Ecologically unique ocean area located 150 kilometres off west coast of Vancouver Island
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...area-1.7261082
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Let's take a moment to congratulate the Trudeau Liberals on this accomplishment achieved through their clueless blundering on this file

Support for Immigration in Canada Plunges to Lowest in Decades
-Only 36% of Canadians favor arrival levels, lowest since 1997
-Strains from record population growth led to drop in support
By Randy Thanthong-Knight
October 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM PDT

Canadians haven’t felt this strongly opposed to immigration levels in a quarter century, a turnaround of attitude in a country that once embraced newcomers but has been shaken by a post-pandemic influx.

Nearly six in 10 people now agree “there’s too much immigration to Canada,” according to the country’s longest-running survey on the topic by the Environics Institute. It’s the first time since 1998 that this view is held by a clear majority, and a stark shift from favorable opinion over the past two decades.

The poll reflects further erosion of public support for immigration, with the proportion of Canadians opposing the volume of new arrivals surging for the second straight year. With a 31 percentage-point jump since 2022, it’s the most rapid change over a two-year period since the survey began in 1977.

Record population growth — comparable to adding all of San Diego’s residents to a country that’s slightly more populous than California in just over 12 months — exacerbated housing shortages, inflated rent prices, strained public services and pushed up the unemployment rate. These pressures threatened a long-held belief that mass immigration gives Canada an edge in a global race to replace aging workers.....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=x4rjnz06
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I know it is a difficult concept. But it comes down to asking the people who live near a park, natural resources projects etc. for input before you do something in their neighborhood.
That sounds great but at the end of the day consultation means what you give those living nearby a veto? If you just ignore their views how is that better?
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That sounds great but at the end of the day consultation means what you give those living nearby a veto? If you just ignore their views how is that better?
Consultation does not mean consent. It is entirely possible for a government to consult with people and groups and then do what some of those people don't want them to do. It happens all the time at all levels of government.

Here, this essay from a Grade 10 student explains it very well, give it a read.
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Polievre is not Orban, not Trump, not Le Pen and not even Meloni. He's probably something like Theresa May.
Pollievre doesn't have much populist charisma. Another comparison would be like a combination of Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and Newt Gingrich.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
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Pollievre doesn't have much populist charisma. Another comparison would be like a combination of Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and Newt Gingrich.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
He won't need much to beat JT.
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Let's take a moment to congratulate the Trudeau Liberals on this accomplishment achieved through their clueless blundering on this file

Support for Immigration in Canada Plunges to Lowest in Decades
-Only 36% of Canadians favor arrival levels, lowest since 1997
-Strains from record population growth led to drop in support
By Randy Thanthong-Knight
October 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM PDT

Canadians haven’t felt this strongly opposed to immigration levels in a quarter century, a turnaround of attitude in a country that once embraced newcomers but has been shaken by a post-pandemic influx.

Nearly six in 10 people now agree “there’s too much immigration to Canada,” according to the country’s longest-running survey on the topic by the Environics Institute. It’s the first time since 1998 that this view is held by a clear majority, and a stark shift from favorable opinion over the past two decades.

The poll reflects further erosion of public support for immigration, with the proportion of Canadians opposing the volume of new arrivals surging for the second straight year. With a 31 percentage-point jump since 2022, it’s the most rapid change over a two-year period since the survey began in 1977.

Record population growth — comparable to adding all of San Diego’s residents to a country that’s slightly more populous than California in just over 12 months — exacerbated housing shortages, inflated rent prices, strained public services and pushed up the unemployment rate. These pressures threatened a long-held belief that mass immigration gives Canada an edge in a global race to replace aging workers.....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=x4rjnz06
This article seems to conflate opposition to current immigration levels and opposition to immigration. The result, istm, is misleading.
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This article seems to conflate opposition to current immigration levels and opposition to immigration. The result, istm, is misleading.
Well it's hard to seperate the two. Most people don't follow the nuances of yearly allocations and PR vs NPR. Saying this is the biggest opposition to immigration since 1998 is an understatment. Back then there was a baseline of racists old stock Canadians wheras now 60% thinking we need less immigration includes a lot of actual immigrants and many children of immigrants. We've discussed before if there will be tinkering at the edges or a bigger decrease in immigration and I really think it might need to be a nearly full stop to let things catch up enough where we end up with 3 million for the decade as we did more or less in the previous few decades. What are we approaching 2.5 Million already this decade?
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Well it's hard to seperate the two. Most people don't follow the nuances of yearly allocations and PR vs NPR. Saying this is the biggest opposition to immigration since 1998 is an understatment. Back then there was a baseline of racists old stock Canadians wheras now 60% thinking we need less immigration includes a lot of actual immigrants and many children of immigrants. We've discussed before if there will be tinkering at the edges or a bigger decrease in immigration and I really think it might need to be a nearly full stop to let things catch up enough where we end up with 3 million for the decade as we did more or less in the previous few decades. What are we approaching 2.5 Million already this decade?
While we do and are reducing numbers, I would not be overly concerned. I don't think we need a full stop. Housing prices are stabilizing. We are heading into a recission period.
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Behold an example of consulting with tribes and managing a protected area with their help:




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...area-1.7261082
Also, there is a proposed national marine conservation area for the Northern Ontario shores of James Bay and Hudson Bay. The The Mushkegowuk Council and the Government of Canada (Parks Canada) are working on it together.

https://parks.canada.ca/amnc-nmca/cn...t-westernjames
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