Federal Government & Politics II

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

C’mon, man, pick an argument and stick with it.

How is that not sticking with it… lol. the last time the liberals were elected the majority of people who voted for them were older people and women. Just look at the winnipeg river heights by election when they won a couple years ago. All rich old white people.

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by Hecate

How is that not sticking with it… lol. the last time the liberals were elected the majority of people who voted for them were older people and women. Just look at the winnipeg river heights by election when they won a couple years ago. All rich old white people.

Quite a sample size you have there. I’ll be sure to tell my Asian neighbours of your polling.

[Truenorth00]

The Bloc motion on increasing OAS payment has passed, 181 to 143.

CPC, NDP, Bloc and Green MPs voted in favour, along with five Liberal MPs, Rene Arseneault, Serge Cormier
Wayne Long, Ken Macdonald and Mike Kelloway.

The rest of the Liberal caucus voted no #cdnpoli

https://x.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/...St4xr8asw&s=09

But I was told the CPC will put young people first.....

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by shreddog

While I fully agree that this level of organization does not exist within the LPC, I also believe that some within the party think it does.
I find this confusing as I would expect that the CPC wants PMJT to lead the LPC into the election given his polling numbers and haven't heard anything to the contrary.

Serves me right for posting pre-coffee. What I meant to say is that all the other parties really want Trudeau at the helm when the election is called. It will drive whatever "Anybody but Conservative" (ABC) vote to them. For the CPC, Trudeau or anybody else makes no difference for final outcome. It's really a race for survival for the LPC. And for second place.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

https://x.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/...St4xr8asw&s=09

But I was told the CPC will put young people first.....

Very disappointing. My personal silver lining hopium is that an OAS increase is paired with a big drop in the clawback thresholds to make it a net reduction in spending overall.

Interesting that all 5 of the Liberals who went against the whip on this one are all Atlantic MPs.

[Marty_Mcfly]

^ Without royal recommendation from the Liberals, the bill is going nowhere even with the motion passing with support from the NDP and Conservatives.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

^ Without royal recommendation from the Liberals, the bill is going nowhere even with the motion passing with support from the NDP and Conservatives.

The Liberals should just go ahead and pass it. Screw the conservatives, when they come in they can be the ones to cut it back in a years time.

The Liberals are the ones acting with fiscal restraint. Interesting.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

The details are surmountable. He could prorougue in October annouce he will resign on Jan 1 Select a leader by Christmas Parties and they'd have till February to get Throne and proposed budget together.I don't see Simon standing up to that. Harper avoiding it to stay alive right after the election was more dubious.

But as you say there is no sign of any courage from caucus nor inclination he will leave without being pushed. I guess it's probably more courageous to stay and go down with the ship even if it's the wrong choice for party country etc.

I don’t see Simon approving a 5 month prorogation during an election year. It is way longer than any other prorogation.