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Originally Posted by moorhosj1
You guys are helping to prove point. This claim has no supporting evidence and plainly states that if you disagree, you support more violence. The entirety of the argument is an appeal to emotion, with no data provided to support the conclusion.
I provided three separate studies showing it's limited effectiveness, but those just get thrown aside because of perceived bias. As if the police aren't also biased to support more funding for their department.
Ordo specifically called out the "benefit" of emergency services getting somewhere faster. The article I shared has the data. In the first 8 months of 2024, there were almost 30,000 Shot Spotter alerts. From those, 143 victims received aid. 136 of those (95%) also had a 911 call. That means that 29,850 times, there was no victim. That seems like a lot of wasted resources. I'm open to seeing more data, but nobody has provided it in this discussion.
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5% of victims who did not receive a 911 call is a *lot* of people.
Just because there was no victim on scene does not mean nothing criminal happened. Shootings are A-Okay as long as nobody was unlucky enough nearby to get shot is hardly a convincing argument.
Residents are still calling 911 for shots fired regardless if there’s a victim, and now there’s no location to give until an actual attempted homicide has occurred.
I’ve noticed that none of these studies are comparing 911 reports of shots heard compared to Shotspotter alerts which makes them disingenuous studies.
UPDATE: For example, already a gunshot murder victim this week lying unnoticed in an alley for over a day.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...far-south-side