Anybody who thinks that is sustainable is delusional.

The danger is the fly-by-night carriers and those with questionable ownership damage the remaining carriers and you end up with nobody able to turn a profit.

I'd wager Porter will also announce this route out of YYZ as part of the initial E2 startup plan. That is way too much service..

YOW's June pax stats are out. YOW hit 70.9% of 2019 traffic levels in May. This is +10.4% vs May, but still lags well behind other airports thanks to a lack of capacity:

Sector / Jun-21 / Jun-22 / % Change
Dom: 44,837 / 283,120 / +531.4%
TB: 0 / 14,639 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 44,837 / 297,759 / +564.1%

Sector / YTD 2021 / YTD 2022 / % Change
Dom: 162,263 / 1,079,918 / +565.5%
TB: 0 / 63,204 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 42,722 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 162,263 / 1,185,844 / 630.8%

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / May-21 / Jun-21 / % Change
Dom: 247,060 / 283,120 / +14.6%
TB: 15,534 / 14,639 / -5.8%
Int'l: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 262,594 / 297,759 / +13.4% - the June 2022 pax total is roughly the same as June 1996
Avg/Day: 8,471 / 9,925 / +17.2%

YOW's back over 2 million pax served in the past 12 months:

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2020
Dom: 2,061,605 / +99.8%
TB: 74,446 / -54.4%
Int'l: 58,319 / -65.4%
TTL: 2,194,370 / +60.9% - back up to about 1981 pax traffic levels - but unlike 1981 with zero transatlantic service

where does Lynx fly?
Cause at YVR their check-in desk is in the International departures desks area.

It's interesting how you can only go YQM-YWG on days 24 and YWG-YQM on days 135. They clearly at this juncture don't want an RONs outside of the YYZ base. What's also really interesting in the long YWG and YQM turnaround times. This is the most cautious start I've ever seen. I guess they want to make a good first impression with their sole 320 despite the poor utilization and O&D reliance to/from YYZ on 5/10 outstation departures per week.

Fares are most definitely not ULCC rates at this juncture.

Yes, looking at it from a pure airline number perspective, 6 airlines does, and is, too many. But, you need to dig a bit deeper, and when you do, you realize it's not that big of a deal. At least not yet.

Like I said, on the surface, it seems like 3x more airlines are flying the route compared to a few years ago, when it was only AC and WS. But......

1. WestJet and Swoop aren't competing against each other. WestJet owns Swoop, and so their schedules should be seen as complementary, not competitive. This means it's actually 5 airlines competing against each other, not 6.

2. Looking at the schedules for the next few weeks...

AC has the bulk of capacity on the route. 6 daily flights, all on A320s. That's 42 weekly flights on YYZ-YWG.
WS comes in second, with 4 dailies during the week and 3 dailies on the weekend. Swoop is 1x daily. So WS/W0 combined are at 33x weekly.
Frequency (and therefore capacity) falls off a cliff after these two. Lynx is 2x weekly. Flair is 12x weekly and Jetlines will be 5x weekly. Combined, these 3 will account for 19x weekly.

So, AC, WS and WO, between them, have 75 weekly flights between YYZ and YWG. The 3 new entrants will bring in 19x weekly. That's only a 25% increase in flights. So what seemed initially as a 300% increase in airlines on the route, turns out to be only a 25% increase in flights. And a bit more in terms of seats, considering these ULCCs have denser cabins than AC or WS.

Still, very manageable, for now.

Also, we are currently in peak summer. A goose with a lawn chair strapped to it's back can make money flying between YYZ and YWG right now. It will be a whole different story come October.

Interesting. I am impressed. Maybe there is hope for these guys.

The ULCC that have multi-hour long delays need to be punished for their behaviour. A flyers bill of right that forces them to re-accommodate on the competition for any significant delay is critical to ensuring they have to pay for their poor behaviour. That will cause the bottom fares to go up a little bit and help reward the well behaved airlines.

Are we about to see a Flair Up? *I will be here all week.

FARNBOROUGH, United Kingdom, July 19, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE:BA] and 777 Partners today announced a new order and commitment for up to 66 737 MAX jets, including a firm order for 30 ultra-efficient, high-capacity 737-8-200s. This is the U.S. investment firm's fifth order for the industry's most fuel-efficient jet in its class, rapidly building its portfolio to as many as 134 737 MAXs since 2021. The two companies announced the order with a signing ceremony at the Farnborough International Airshow.

777 Partners has used the 737 MAX to launch a number of low-cost carriers around the world, with more to follow. Currently, its investments include Flair Airlines, Canada's only independent ultra-low-cost carrier, and Bonza Airline, an Australian start-up that will launch operations this year. The investment firm has earmarked the 737-8-200, which accommodates more than 200 passengers, to grow operations by increasing revenue potential while reducing carbon emissions, fuel consumption and operating costs.

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2022-07...Efficient-Jets

AC is also connecting a large portion of those people too.

Up to a $100mil (300 total) federal investment in an international cargo hub for YEG?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYNFdJZW...pg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/FlyEIA/status/15...9564%2Fpage-44

Name a well behaved airline!? Ill wait.

Air North. Canadian North. :notacrook:

I will second that ^. Air North and Canadian North. Pacific Costal also qualifies.

I am reluctant to include WestJet and Air Canada. They are close to well behaved, but could also use of regularly encouragement. They just need to be hit with a hammer.

Swoop and Fair need the sledgehammer treatment.

There are stories floating around that the WestJet airport staff in Vancouver and Calgary may be going on strike. Apparently their current contract has starting ways below BC minimum wages.

Ok, maybe WestJet could use a light sledgehammer.

Touche. I have no experience with either of those carriers as they serve a mostly niche market. I guess Porter could be on that list as well. Ive always had good experiences with them. As far as im concerned AC, WJ, Swoop and Flair all need a sledgehammer treatment.

YEG - apparently that '100mil' will be to develop 2000 acres ie. Port Alberta to create a logistics, storage, apron and cargo infrastructure base.

Yup Air North, Been on it 3 times this year and again next week. And not to expensive. The fresh cookies are always good as well.

The current travel environment.
First book a rental. Then a hotel, then the flight. At least that is the way I have been doing it.

I know my next few trips and have a car lined up each time. and depending on the community hotels are easier to find. Flights I try to book no less than two weeks out.

Guten tag Germany! Starting May 26, 2023, Condor Flugdienst GmbH will offer non-stop seasonal summer air service between #YEG and Frankfurt, Germany.  We’re thrilled to welcome Condor to Edmonton! In conjunction with their partners, Condor's network opens many travel opportunities for the Edmonton Metro Region, not just to visit Frankfurt, but to connect through Frankfurt to other destinations throughout Europe. Plus, an excellent opportunity to connect European tourists to our local and regional gems. To start planning your next vacation, visit the flyeia.com/Frankfurt

Air Canada and United Airlines Expand Relationship to Make Transborder Travel Easier, With More Choice

https://media.aircanada.com/2022-07-...th-More-Choice