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casper Mar 20, 2023 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9896801)
Well Rankin Inlet has needed a new terminal for a few years now.

As for Red Deer, this is purely a political bribe. Why do they need an airport that can handle larger aircraft when you have 2 major airports 1.5 hours down the highway. Yah these may get some sun destinations but may only handle the Private aircraft group from south central Alberta.

You would need someone with a hub in Vancouver or Winnipeg to make that work. Perhaps AC now that they are have de-hubed Calgary. Still a long shot. Perhaps when they are not labour constrained and have some regional jets they don't know what to do with them.

Dominion301 Mar 20, 2023 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2009 (Post 9895308)
Kelowna's terminal is getting an 86,000 sq ft expansion which is significant for an airport it's size (~2 million pax).

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/kelo...on-mass-timber

Just got an email to say it starts this summer:

Airport Terminal Building expansion to begin this summer.

Following a meeting of Kelowna City Council on Monday the Kelowna International Airport (YLW) is one step closer to starting construction on the terminal building expansion.

Council has approved funding for the $90-million terminal building expansion project, the largest infrastructure project to date at YLW. The project will be funded through fees paid by airport users and will have no taxation impact to Kelowna taxpayers.

The YLW terminal building was already over capacity in 2019 which is restricting growth in air service, food & beverage services, and regional economic development.
“This investment in YLW will have significant benefits for all of Kelowna,” said Kelowna Mayor Tom Dyas. “It is an investment in our regional economy, helping to support increased air service for both passengers and goods.”

YLW has been getting ready for this major infrastructure project during the last seven months with enabling works projects around the airport, including excavation and other civil works. Passengers will continue to see preparations this spring, as enabling works projects continue, leading up to the terminal building construction starting summer 2023.

“We know that construction will have impacts to guests visiting YLW, such as noise and impacts to existing amenities and parking. Our team is working to minimize these impacts as much as possible,” said Sam Samaddar, Kelowna Airport Director. “We will be sharing more information about what passengers can expect at YLW as we approach construction. We thank everyone for their patience as we complete this work to make these important improvements.”

Phase 1 of the expansion will add approximately 5,590 square metres of new space to the terminal building and 1,200 square metres of renovated space to the existing terminal building. This will include:
• expanded Departures Lounge to improve connections to aircraft gates and increased food and beverage options
• expanded security screening area to reduce the time it takes to clear security
• new direct access to south gates for departing and arriving passengers
• improved wayfinding

Construction for Phase 1 of the terminal building construction will begin this summer and is planned to be complete in 2026.

To stay updated on the progress of the terminal building expansion, sign up for e-updates or visit ylw.kelowna.ca/atb.

thenoflyzone Mar 21, 2023 4:35 AM

https://simpleflying.com/inside-mont...letter_popup=1

A couple of mistakes, but overall accurate.

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Inside Montreal’s Record-Breaking Long-Haul Summer Growth

Never has Montreal had so much long-haul capacity.

Ten airports across the geographically vast Canada have long-haul flights this summer. Montreal is behind only Toronto by long-haul capacity, with the Quebec airport's lead growing over third-place Vancouver. This is from Vancouver's slower recovery (seats remain down by 30%) and Montreal's growth.

Montreal has just shy of over 2.5 million departing seats to Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America this summer, according to the latest OAG data. It has grown by 13% versus the previous peak in summer 2019, equivalent to 308,000 more departing seats (double for both ways).



Air Canada will have an average of 17 daily long-haul departures this summer, with a maximum of 24. On AUGUST 5TH, for example, all of these will take off, organized by departure time from Montreal. Note: as it is a snapshot, not *all* routes will operate that day.

13:35: Tokyo Narita, 787-9
17:30: Cairo, 787-9
17:35: Athens, 777-300ER
17:50: Brussels, 777-300ER
18:00: Copenhagen, 787-8
18:15: Paris CDG, 777-300ER
18:55: Frankfurt, 787-9
18:55: London Heathrow, 787-9
19:30: Rome, 777-300ER
19:30: Toulouse, A330-300
19:30: Venice, A330-300
19:55: Milan, A330-300
20:05: Barcelona, A330-300
20:25: Geneva, 777-300ER
21:15: Nice, A330-300
21:25: Frankfurt, A330-300
21:30: Paris CDG, 777-300ER
21:35: Dublin, 787-8
21:40: Rome, 787-8
21:50: Delhi, 787-9
22:00: London Heathrow, 787-9
22:10: Amsterdam, 787-8
22:45: Bogota, A330-300
23:30: Keflavik, 737 MAX 8

Alexcaban Mar 21, 2023 12:32 PM

CMN, ALG, TLV, GRU & LIS are all missing from that list.

Also the second FCO is now a 789.

thenoflyzone Mar 21, 2023 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 9897654)
CMN, ALG, TLV, GRU & LIS are all missing from that list.

Also the second FCO is now a 789.

Didn’t check the timetables, but that list is supposedly only the flights on august 5, which happens to be the day there are 24 long haul flights departing.

But like I said, there are some errors in the article. It is simpleflying, after all.

Condor and Openskies never flew to YUL. Level did, briefly for a season or two. Also, I wouldn’t characterize YUL-KEF as long haul (6hr+ is the IATA definition of long haul, and KEF is only 5h05). It’s therefore mid-haul (3-6hr).

Edit: Even if you remove KEF, the number of long haul is actually higher than 24, because several YUL- US west coast flights clock in around 6 hr, or even more.

YUL-SAN 5h53 (1x daily on August 5)
YUL-SEA 5h59 (1x daily on August 5)
YUL-LAX 5h59 (3x daily on August 5)
YUL-SFO 6h14 (2x daily on August 5)

Also, YUL-DUB no longer operates on saturdays, but on sundays, so it doesn't operate August 5.

Dominion301 Mar 21, 2023 4:55 PM

YOW's February Pax Stats:

Sector / Feb-22 / Feb-23 / % Change
Dom: 103,471 / 201,170 / +94.4%
TB: 5,271 / 48,965 / +829.0%
Int'l: 10,432 / 52,325 / +401.6%
TTL: 119,174 / 302,460 / +153.8%

Sector / YTD 2022 / YTD 2023 / % Change
Dom: 201,232 / 405,312 / +101.4%
TB: 10,539 / 91,495 / +768.2%
Int'l: 20,075 / 106,380 / +429.9%
TTL: 231,846 / 603,187 / +160.2%
YTD daily pax count = 10,224 = currently on pace for 3,731,760 pax in 2023 +100K vs January's pace

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / Jan-23 / Feb-23 / % Change
Dom: 204,142 / 201,170 / -1.5%
TB: 42,530 / 48,965 / +15.1%
Int'l: 54,055 / 52,325 / -3.2%
TTL: 300,727 / 302,460 / +0.6%
Avg/Day: 9,701 / 10,802 / +11.4%
% of month's avg daily pax vs 2019 (13,990 avg pax/day) = 77.2%
YTD TTL vs YTD 2019 = 74.6%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2021
Dom: 2,913,079 / +154.7%
TB: 271,291 / +2,313.2%
Int'l: 179,305 / +11049.6%
TTL: 3,363,675 / +187.3%

nname Mar 21, 2023 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9897741)
Also, YUL-DUB no longer operates on saturdays, but on sundays, so it doesn't operate August 5.

Latest change is:
(789) Reduce YUL-GRU to 4x weekly (to rotate with DEL, free up spot Mon Tues)
(788) Split YUL/YVR-DUB rotation, remove YVR flights, move Tues to the plane above, then share with the new AMS route for 5x weekly.

They still have a slot to add new long-hual flight on Monday.

For YVR:
DUB will rotate with PVG for 3 of the 4 days. Either they'll have to remove a Friday flight from one of DUB/PVG/ICN/KIX, or add 6 more weekly long hual flight from YVR using a new plane.

If they choose to reduce, no extra planes is actually needed for introducing YUL-AMS

For YYZ:
NRT and one of LHR becomes 788. One of the 789 move to YVR to upgauge KIX/ZRH, the other one upgauge the extra FCO flights from both YYZ/YUL, plus a few others.

hollywoodcory Mar 22, 2023 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9892435)
WS Network planners right now given their struggle to get summer AMS slots
https://media.tenor.com/gTl8-UKbIaoAAAAM/angry-mad.gif

WS now seeing JetBlue also getting summer slots.

Curious if maybe they did get offered slots but can’t use them due a lack of 787s.

casper Mar 22, 2023 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9898371)
WS now seeing JetBlue also getting summer slots.

Curious if maybe they did get offered slots but can’t use them due a lack of 787s.

There are these rumours of two dreamlines sitting in the desert all painted in teal. No one has yet to take the plastic covers off the seats yet.

If they wanted to they probably could have made a deal.

thenoflyzone Mar 22, 2023 2:15 AM

JetBlue got temporary slots with shitty timings. Far from ideal.

Airboy Mar 22, 2023 5:39 PM

Came across this project early this week.

Rankin Inlet Nunavut. I had been flying in quite a few times over the years and the current terminal just got worse and worse as the population and aircraft movements increased. This is the main airport for the central arctic region (Kivallik). Lots of flights from Winnipeg as well as a major stopping point for flights going east and west from Iqaluit to Yellowknife.

In the attached file you can see the old green monster in the back. Current construction has the Thermal Siphens in the ground and actual construction starts this summer.
https://www.prairiearchitects.ca/ran...inal-expansion

The thermal Syphens keep the ground frozen and allows the building to be constructed at grade.

Dominion301 Mar 23, 2023 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9898977)
Came across this project early this week.

Rankin Inlet Nunavut. I had been flying in quite a few times over the years and the current terminal just got worse and worse as the population and aircraft movements increased. This is the main airport for the central arctic region (Kivallik). Lots of flights from Winnipeg as well as a major stopping point for flights going east and west from Iqaluit to Yellowknife.

In the attached file you can see the old green monster in the back. Current construction has the Thermal Siphens in the ground and actual construction starts this summer.
https://www.prairiearchitects.ca/ran...inal-expansion

The thermal Syphens keep the ground frozen and allows the building to be constructed at grade.

Looks impressive. The only thing I don't see is a security checkpoint. All flights out of YRT going directly to another airport with security need CATSA.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1500w

I'm guessing that top left door is for the non-secure flights to the smaller communities?

manny_santos Mar 23, 2023 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by manny_santos (Post 9889726)
I had planned to fly with Flair on their new YVR-YXU route when it launches in June. I’m now thinking I should fly with someone else. Too risky.

I completely missed it until yesterday, but Swoop announced the resumption of the Abbotsford-London route several weeks ago, at least for the summer. It will run 2 days a week starting on the May long weekend and then 4 days a week from late June until the end of August. I really hope it gets extended beyond that; they had this route from May 2019 until March 2020 so it has run in the fall and winter before.

I've made a booking. Sorry Flair, I'm not taking risks with you!

YYCguys Mar 23, 2023 8:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9900058)
Looks impressive. The only thing I don't see is a security checkpoint. All flights out of YRT going directly to another airport with security need CATSA.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1500w

I'm guessing that top left door is for the non-secure flights to the smaller communities?

Indeed, it doesn’t appear to have a security checkpoint. This is strange.

But the top left door you refer to appears to be the exit from baggage to the curb.

BenYOW Mar 23, 2023 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 9900215)
Indeed, it doesn’t appear to have a security checkpoint. This is strange.

Rankin Inlet isn't included in the CATSA Aerodrome Designation Regulations, and my understanding is that the airport's existing flights depart unsecured. It looks like this practice is being carried forward in the new terminal.

Airboy Mar 23, 2023 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 9900215)
Indeed, it doesn’t appear to have a security checkpoint. This is strange.

But the top left door you refer to appears to be the exit from baggage to the curb.

There is none. None of the aircraft leaving Rankin go directly to a major center. Other than Winnipeg. All passengers must deplane in Iqaluit and Yellowknife before going south to pass through security. I know I found in weird especially going south to Winnipeg. Half of the stuff in my carry on would now be refused.

If you look at the image gallery you will see the old green terminal. There once was a secure hold room but they out grew it and the space was made a common room.

One thing you learn in Nunavut is the Airport is the central meeting place and when a flight comes in there are a lot of people there to check out who has arrived.

After all my years of travel up there I found it quite enjoyable. Infact I got a ride from a few people that had trucks even the RCMP.

Coldrsx Mar 23, 2023 11:46 PM

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Dominion301 Mar 24, 2023 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9900289)
There is none. None of the aircraft leaving Rankin go directly to a major center. Other than Winnipeg. All passengers must deplane in Iqaluit and Yellowknife before going south to pass through security. I know I found in weird especially going south to Winnipeg. Half of the stuff in my carry on would now be refused.

If you look at the image gallery you will see the old green terminal. There once was a secure hold room but they out grew it and the space was made a common room.

One thing you learn in Nunavut is the Airport is the central meeting place and when a flight comes in there are a lot of people there to check out who has arrived.

After all my years of travel up there I found it quite enjoyable. Infact I got a ride from a few people that had trucks even the RCMP.

Interesting about no security at Rankin. For for flights heading north to YRT from airports that have security - YWG, but also YTH & YYQ, do they depart secure or non-secure?

I've visited YFB several times (old terminal building era) and YVO once (also old terminal) and both have security for travel to other secure airports.

Airboy Mar 24, 2023 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9900809)
Interesting about no security at Rankin. For for flights heading north to YRT from airports that have security - YWG, but also YTH & YYQ, do they depart secure or non-secure?

I've visited YFB several times (old terminal building era) and YVO once (also old terminal) and both have security for travel to other secure airports.

I was told it had to do if type of aircraft and where they are headed to.

Always though the no security to Winnipeg was weird.

JakeLRS Mar 25, 2023 3:01 AM

The flair cuts have begun amid them losing 4 aircraft.
They've also slimmed some core frequencies in May/June as well as frequencies in the summer.

Ill let nname spill all the beans since he has an efficient way to do things.

One thing for sure:
YKF-YEG - axed


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