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SignalHillHiker Sep 16, 2015 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hipster duck (Post 7165977)
Ouch! Whenever I used to fly across the Atlantic from Toronto, I was always amazed at how we'd be 2.5 hours into the flight, the lights were already dimmed, and the movie was almost finishing, and we'd still be over Newfoundland. It makes almost no sense for you guys to make such a huge detour just to fly across the pond.

Maybe one day Ryanair will fly St. John's to Dublin and you'll have cheap access to all their European destinations.

We already do have access to RyanAir and the like, really. Once we're in Europe, we can avail of those flights, and the direct flights to Dublin/London accomplish that purpose. A lot of my friends took the flight to Dublin and went on to Paris, St. Petersburg, even Istanbul, etc.

SignalHillHiker Sep 16, 2015 8:06 PM

Their logo is beautiful.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...nder-1.3230960

jmt18325 Sep 19, 2015 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7164450)
$199 from St. John's. About 10% the cost of Air Canada's direct flight lol. Great promo.

I doubt Air Canada was charing $4000 round trip from St. John's. West jet has now reverted to being the exact same price as Air Canada on this route, it seems.

jmt18325 Sep 19, 2015 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7164759)
I'm just tickled. Hopefully the days of having to fly to Central Canada before going on to Europe are over.

You could already fly to London, Paris, Glasgow, Frankfurt, and Dublin without going to central Canada from either St. John's or Halifax.

jmt18325 Sep 19, 2015 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 7161762)
You normally check in with the airline operating the flight. That would be WestJet. The WestJet counter in YWG would handle the checkin process.

You may be able to do it online, perhaps.

I was confused because there was a flight segment missing (YWG-YYZ on my Westjet flight itinerary). There was a miscommunication between AA (the ticket issuer) and WJ (the service provider). The flight has now been properly booked. Good thing I checked. Would have probably missed my flight.

someone123 Sep 19, 2015 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 7169841)
You could already fly to London, Paris, Glasgow, Frankfurt, and Dublin without going to central Canada from either St. John's or Halifax.

A lot of stories about flights in Atlantic Canada don't really make sense. For example, people complain about having to connect through Halifax from Moncton, but Moncton is a city with 150,000 people or so that is only a 2 hour drive from the Halifax airport (!). They have great flight options given the size of the market.

It sucks that people have to fly to Toronto sometimes from Newfoundland when they're heading east but we're talking about a huge island with under 500,000 people living on it. I don't think there is enough of a market to have multiple affordable flights to Europe or less frequently travelled long distance destinations every day. People living in Newfoundland are probably pretty well-served by the hybrid hub-and-spoke model combined with a few longer distance flights.

jmt18325 Sep 20, 2015 2:38 AM

Just for comparison, from where I live, I have to drive 2.5 hours to Brandon airport (haven't used it yet) and 3 hours to Winnipeg to fly anywhere. I don't feel too bad for anyone.

JHikka Sep 20, 2015 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 7170201)
Just for comparison, from where I live, I have to drive 2.5 hours to Brandon airport (haven't used it yet) and 3 hours to Winnipeg to fly anywhere. I don't feel too bad for anyone.

Of course not, but Maritimers think that every airport has to have every destination they could ever possibly want and feel needlessly hassled to have to drive another hour down the road to that other airport. :shrug:

cyeg66 Sep 20, 2015 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 7170208)
Of course not, but Maritimers think that every airport has to have every destination they could ever possibly want and feel needlessly hassled to have to drive another hour down the road to that other airport. :shrug:

That's a pretty wide brush to paint all maritimers with but I get your point. When I hear folks grumble about YHZ being snubbed in this latest WS expansion because it's apparently a huge, bustling metropolis (hyperbole, people, hyperbole) that no one knows about is a wee bit silly.

someone123 Sep 20, 2015 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cyeg66 (Post 7170230)
That's a pretty wide brush to paint all maritimers with but I get your point. When I hear folks grumble about YHZ being snubbed in this latest WS expansion because it's apparently a huge, bustling metropolis (hyperbole, people, hyperbole) that no one knows about is a wee bit silly.

I'm not sure what qualifies as a bustling metropolis but YHZ is roughly tied with Winnipeg for 7th in Canada and gets about 80% as much traffic as Ottawa despite the fact that it serves a city with a smaller population. The reason for this is that the driving distances outside of the region are farther so people fly more and YHZ is a regional hub where people fly in before connecting to the smaller airports.

Some people think the airport in Halifax is like, say, the airport in London, Ontario, which gets about 1/7 the traffic.

I agree that the complaining is weird though. There is some distortion of the market from Transport Canada limiting who can fly in, etc., but generally speaking the flight options available depend on what the markets can support. Atlantic Canada generally has much better local flight options than other parts of Canada aside from the largest cities like Toronto.

eemy Sep 20, 2015 5:04 PM

London is an interesting comparison. You're driving several hours to get to the nearest major airports, but it has paltry service in comparison to other much smaller cities.

someone123 Sep 20, 2015 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_haak (Post 7170550)
London is an interesting comparison. You're driving several hours to get to the nearest major airports, but it has paltry service in comparison to other much smaller cities.

Google says 1:45 right now from downtown London to Pearson. It would take very little in the way of better pricing or better schedules to get people to make that drive.

In an alternate universe with a major international airport less than 2 hours from Halifax it would probably have a lot less traffic too.

G.S MTL Sep 22, 2015 2:38 PM

International jetty expansion almost done... YUL looking gooood

http://oi61.tinypic.com/vzab2g.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2ezquma.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/r86noh.jpg

thenoflyzone Sep 23, 2015 2:09 PM

^
Nice pics. its coming along nicely, but still some work left to do. Opening is only for June 2016. That last pic says it all. 4 heavies parked at remote stands to make room for other heavies at the jetty. Add in the winter time charters down south, and you can see how the international jetty will need these 6 additional gates.

Nice to see rush hour pics with most of the gates full !

Bigtime Sep 23, 2015 4:26 PM

Very jealous seeing all that foreign tail at YUL.

Here in YYC I'm just hoping BA can stick it out so we have some variety from AC and WS with them and KL around.

G.S MTL Sep 23, 2015 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7174095)
^
Nice pics. its coming along nicely, but still some work left to do. Opening is only for June 2016. That last pic says it all. 4 heavies parked at remote stands to make room for other heavies at the jetty. Add in the winter time charters down south, and you can see how the international jetty will need these 6 additional gates.

Nice to see rush hour pics with most of the gates full !

yup!! ive been looking for pics for quite some time now.... nice to see all those gates occupied....

G.S MTL Sep 23, 2015 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 7174292)
Very jealous seeing all that foreign tail at YUL.

Here in YYC I'm just hoping BA can stick it out so we have some variety from AC and WS with them and KL around.

we're getting Air China 3 weekly beginning September 29, 2015... also Icelandair in May.

cyeg66 Sep 23, 2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7174463)
we're getting Air China 3 weekly beginning September 29, 2015... also Icelandair in May.

T'es chien, Stan, t'es chien!!! :D

GoTrans Sep 24, 2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7174463)
we're getting Air China 3 weekly beginning September 29, 2015... also Icelandair in May.

Icelandair is a great way to fly since you can stay over in Iceland with no extra fees. First flew Icelander to Luxembourg in 1978 when the only North American destinations were Chicago and NYC. Took CN's Turbo-train from Toronto to Montreal and then the Amtrak Vermonter night train to NYC, spent the day in NYC and left that evening to Iceland. Spent 2 days in Iceland on the way over and 3 on the way back.
Did the same trip on my honeymoon in but stayed longer in Iceland. Hitched hiked out into the country side and camped over looking the Westman Islands still erupting in the distance.

Canadian74 Sep 24, 2015 1:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GoTrans (Post 7174931)
Icelandair is a great way to fly since you can stay over in Iceland with no extra fees. First flew Icelander to Luxembourg in 1978 when the only North American destinations were Chicago and NYC. Took CN's Turbo-train from Toronto to Montreal and then the Amtrak Vermonter night train to NYC, spent the day in NYC and left that evening to Iceland. Spent 2 days in Iceland on the way over and 3 on the way back.
Did the same trip on my honeymoon in but stayed longer in Iceland. Hitched hiked out into the country side and camped over looking the Westman Islands still erupting in the distance.

A lot of airlines allow free stopover in Europe


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