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SDfan Feb 23, 2012 1:18 AM

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...boa-park-2015/

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House of the future planned in Balboa Park
Nanotechnology, biomimicry, sewage plant, but no hearth in this home

Nanotechnology, self-contained energy and sewage systems, a green wall and roof and more might be coming in a house of the future, planned for Balboa Park in 2015.

The San Diego Regional Sustainability Partnership wants to build a 3,000-square-foot futuristic house filled with technology and gadgets now only on the drawing boards.

A low-water-using garden, visitor center, transportation building and products pavilion also are planned on the site of about three-quarters of an acre. A location has not yet been selected.

SDCAL Feb 24, 2012 5:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5600066)
Would it really increase the value?

I'm only against Wal-Mart because I hate the big box design with an ocean of parking. But if they can just renovate the building I wouldn't be against it.

They complain about the minimum wage jobs/non-unions, as if the mom and pop stores are high paying unionized jobs.

If they do come in, maybe we can get other better stores to come in

Speaking of Wal Mart, weren't they supposed to be pioneering some "urban market" concept on J Street at the TR produce building? That place has been vacant for as long as I can remember. Part of it has pictures in the window that allude to a produce market, but it has been that way for years. I wonder if anyone knows if that Wal Mart concept is still planned or dead?

SDCAL Feb 24, 2012 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5596727)

A 37 year lease and the article brags about building new hangars, parking structures, terminals, etc. but no mention of what they plan to do about RUNWAY SPACE.

Are people in this town really too inept to see what is going on here?

Our airport is planning on building waiting areas, parking spaces, new restaurants, and ways to transfer and hold more passengers, but ignoring the one, short runway issue.

Their plans are pretty much telling us they are making the airport bigger and nicer because, as the years roll by, waiting for flights will become much, much longer.

mello Feb 24, 2012 5:35 AM

Totally agree with you about the airport, I guess there is just no will to push the Miramar issue anymore and Brown Field won't work so.... The only solution I can see is Palomar stepping up and becoming like a Ft. Lauderdale to Miami. The runway there will be lengthened so maybe it can suck up a decent percentage of N. County traffic in the long term.

As far as the empty TR produce building and all of the empty retail in the ballpark area... What gives? Why not drop the lease rates and get something going there? I think it really is time that City Hall steps in on this, those spaces have been empty since 2007!

202_Cyclist Feb 24, 2012 10:55 PM

mello:
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Totally agree with you about the airport, I guess there is just no will to push the Miramar issue anymore and Brown Field won't work so.... The only solution I can see is Palomar stepping up and becoming like a Ft. Lauderdale to Miami. The runway there will be lengthened so maybe it can suck up a decent percentage of N. County traffic in the long term.
There is a start-up carrier, California Pacific Airlines (http://www.flycpair.com/), that is seeking to begin service to the Bay Area, Sacramento, PHX, Las Vegas, and Cabo from Palomar. The airline would use Embraer 190 aircraft, one of the most fuel-efficient planes. There's what, 1M - 1.5M residents in North County, another 100,000 - 200,000 in southern OC, and a couple of hundred thousand people in southwest Riverside County, for whom Palomar service could be competitive.

Carlsbad airline gets key FAA approval
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...based-airline/

SDCAL Mar 1, 2012 3:06 AM

Market and 13th, across fom Albertson's in East Village now is walled-off on all four sides with wood.

No signs indicate construction so can't tell if it's a project going up, parking lot resurfacing, or something else.

Anyone know??

HurricaneHugo Mar 1, 2012 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 5610804)
Market and 13th, across fom Albertson's in East Village now is walled-off on all four sides with wood.

No signs indicate construction so can't tell if it's a project going up, parking lot resurfacing, or something else.

Anyone know??

Damnit I was just about to report it.

Hopefully 13th and Market is ready to go up.

http://ccdc.com/scripts/gis/webporta...d.aspx?id=1070

eburress Mar 1, 2012 5:22 PM

^^ Nice - I like it!

Ariel Suites' construction has also started in Little Italy. I'm sure folks have already seen it, but bmfarley posted this over at Skyscrapercity.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ielSuites1.jpg

aquablue Mar 1, 2012 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 5603216)
Totally agree with you about the airport, I guess there is just no will to push the Miramar issue anymore and Brown Field won't work so.... The only solution I can see is Palomar stepping up and becoming like a Ft. Lauderdale to Miami. The runway there will be lengthened so maybe it can suck up a decent percentage of N. County traffic in the long term.

As far as the empty TR produce building and all of the empty retail in the ballpark area... What gives? Why not drop the lease rates and get something going there? I think it really is time that City Hall steps in on this, those spaces have been empty since 2007!

Why won't Brown Field work? There are plenty of examples of airports with mountains around them and they work fine as commercial airport.

I looked at Palomar on the map, it looks like it doesn't have room for expansion and the runway is short.

eburress Mar 1, 2012 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5611359)
Why won't Brown Field work? There are plenty of examples of airports with mountains around them and they work fine as commercial airport.

I looked at Palomar on the map, it looks like it doesn't have room for expansion and the runway is short.

Next to Miramar, Brown Field seems to make the most sense. Still, it's not going to happen as long as this city continues to be run by the gutless and inept.

aquablue Mar 1, 2012 6:15 PM

People were saying it won't work due to mountains

mello Mar 1, 2012 7:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5611403)
People were saying it won't work due to mountains

I think an issue with the flight paths at Brown Field is that Tijuana's Airport is just to the south of it. If the incoming flight path were from the west to avoid the high mountains to the east than the planes would have to veer to the south after taking off to the east and that is directly in to the flight path of Tijuana Rodriquez.

If incoming flights came in from the east they would have to come in from the South East because the mountains are to the North East and that would also interfere with TJ Rod Intl...

The San Ysidro Mountains top out at 3800 feet and sit North East of Brown Field. Flat airspace lies to the South East of BF but that is exactly where the incoming flights for TJ are. I think that many officials believe a very busy Brown Field (if you made it a commercial airport) would get very tricky. Hope you understand my explanation.

HurricaneHugo Mar 1, 2012 10:19 PM

Article on Wal Mart coming to Sherman Heights.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...ller-sd-store/

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In a sign of intensifying competition for food dollars, the retail giant Walmart is bringing its smaller grocery-store format to a vacant building in one of San Diego County’s more depressed urban areas.

Walmart will announce today that it is leasing a vacant building in Logan Heights for its first local Neighborhood Market, about one-third the size of a Supercenter.
http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...e0b2d025cf5799

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...e0b2d025cf5799

SD_Phil Mar 2, 2012 12:11 AM

^That's a good move.

Derek Mar 2, 2012 12:54 AM

If all Walmarts were that size, I'd have more respect for them. :P

S.DviaPhilly Mar 2, 2012 7:58 AM

I hate to be a buzzkill, but I am not a huge fan of this project. It takes up a whole city block and it is only 6 stories tall and a rental. This parcel should be built up tall as Market St. is a main corridor through our city. The park is going to be there, hopefully the Chargers stadium, Ballpark Village, etc. and this huge parcel is going to be this mid/low rise building...eh! Take out all the lush landscaping and I do not think it is that special. It is better than a parking lot, but once this is built it will remain for all of our lifetimes. For me, I think the 1980's cars in the picture sum it up. How disappointing!



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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5611025)
Damnit I was just about to report it.

Hopefully 13th and Market is ready to go up.

http://ccdc.com/scripts/gis/webporta...d.aspx?id=1070


HurricaneHugo Mar 2, 2012 8:08 AM

Meh.

There's plenty of room on Market for taller buildings in the future.

HurricaneHugo Mar 2, 2012 8:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SD_Phil (Post 5611913)
^That's a good move.

I would prefer if it was a regular Wal Mart instead of a grocery one since we have plenty of grocery stores around.

Currently I go to the Chula Vista/NC one...

S.DviaPhilly Mar 2, 2012 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5612369)
Meh.

There's plenty of room on Market for taller buildings in the future.


Not really...and this is a whole block, it is not part of the block. I think it is a waste of prime future development.

HurricaneHugo Mar 2, 2012 8:26 AM

It fits with the scale of the rest of the area east of Park Boulevard.


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