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SoapGun May 31, 2018 12:49 AM

Shot today from the parapet of 1330 AoA (FT building)

NYguy May 31, 2018 2:03 AM

Joe Josephs: 3,166,284 views - thank you

vandelay May 31, 2018 5:11 PM

As I feared, from a distance the east and west facades result in a monotonous pinstripe.

mrnyc May 31, 2018 5:21 PM

these towers will soon leave even the local yokels slack jawed

Prezrezc May 31, 2018 6:59 PM

The mullions on the 57th profile and the transoms on the Park-facing side, for all their supposed monotony, are spaced/designed as if to create IMO the illusion of slightly convex/concave surfaces respectively.

McSky May 31, 2018 7:03 PM


Originally Posted by vandelay (Post 8205755)
As I feared, from a distance the east and west facades result in a monotonous pinstripe.

Still pretending, I see.

NYguy Jun 1, 2018 3:08 AM

FAA study on the 1,428 ft height...

NYguy Jun 2, 2018 3:34 AM



MayorQuinbee Jun 2, 2018 7:36 PM

Great shot of the terra cotta facade. Love to see how it catches the light now that it is growing above the rest of the canopy of adjacent buildings.


Originally Posted by Jibba (Post 8204568)
I'll wait for the final result, but the more I look at this, I'm like, "is this Deco pastiche??" I wish the allusions were a little more subtle. The form of the wall covering against the obviously modern form of the structure makes for a bit of a conflict. Granted, that relational quality won't be perceived once the structure is fully covered over, but for now it's aesthetic dis-harmony.

I understand your feeling there, but i think it will begin to harmonize the more the form of the tower's tiers "step back". You can see there is an element of that playfully being used in the simplicity of just the framework of the window widths on the glass facade side.

This thing will be freakish for sure. Its only gonna get more slim as it grows even higher!

NYguy Jun 3, 2018 3:26 AM


Jibba Jun 4, 2018 3:55 PM

^I'm wondering if that moiré patterning (terra cotta side) is present in person too. I'm guessing it is. Which is really sweet; I was hoping that would be a present effect. Very neat.

NYguy Jun 4, 2018 7:12 PM



WhatTheHeck5205 Jun 5, 2018 10:26 PM

I’m honestly still kind of in awe of this project sometimes. Not only are we getting a tower of almost prewar quality, but also a full restoration—not a tacky facadectomy—of a historically significant building. SHoP and JDS have really set the standard here that every other architect and developer should aspire to.

aquablue Jun 6, 2018 2:27 AM

It looks great. The purists will hate the "thinness", but who cares? The facade is wonderful and the setbacks awe inspiring.

NYguy Jun 6, 2018 2:45 AM

This tower has always been more Woolworth than Chrysler to me, but looking at it today from a distance down 57th Street, you can see that the facade will still be shiny. It has more of a Chrysler feel from a distance. And now we are getting to that fun part where the setbacks will increase with the height, until there is nothing left. That's the feature that will define this tower on the skyline.

JUNE 5, 2018

NYguy Jun 7, 2018 2:49 AM



TechTalkGuy Jun 7, 2018 3:30 AM


Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8211165)
This tower has always been more Woolworth than Chrysler to me.......

For me, it resembles a very slim nod to the original twin towers.
Those vertical lines have been done many times before I know.
We will judge when it's all done and see for ourselves how the sunlight reflects from the surface of the vertical wall.

NYguy Jun 8, 2018 3:39 AM





mrnyc Jun 8, 2018 2:48 PM

yes definately a woolworth/stern towers type of vibe.

walking by yesterday what struck me up close is the amount of ceramic up there now.

all those panels of stacked bolted up tiles are quite something.

and being only partly done its almost frightening in a way.

at least this point in time of construction.

it's like, can it all just peel off from the weight?

it will be a relief to see the setbacks.

dwardcompton Jun 8, 2018 8:12 PM

For the $ and the unobstructed viewpoints from up there, I'd be yearning for more of those sunset/western views than the little cutouts are offering. I suppose at that height, that amount of concrete is necessary, but I'd want to punch through my western wall and get more sunset into my pad.

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