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Images of the HY Phase 2 were released, and we have a new supertall! It seems to be the Phase 2 office tower.

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Wouldn't be surprised if this is not the only one. Phase I provided so much, can't even imagine the benefits of the second phase. A city within a city. :D

Dont read too much into those designs, they're placeholders. (We barely have designs complete for the towers they are building now.) But other than 50 Hudson, which will be built first, the office tower in phase 2 will be the last of Related's office towers in the Hudson Yards.

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Interestingly enough 50HY is missing from that rendering, as is 55 HY.

The fate of phase 2 is bound to the economy. So long as the cycle continues strong as its been and increases in its power, and can hold strong for the next 10 years, then we may see down the line something on the scale of phase 1. Thats IF the market is bullish.

The scale of phase 2 is already determined. They just have no plans to commence the development until phase 1 is completed in 2018. It could begin soon after,
or a few years down the line. Remember, phase 1 was on hold for a few years as well.

Phase 2 is also the portion of the development where Related expects to make the most money (it's primarily residential).



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While it is definitely preliminary, that tall one is certainly a super tall at around 1050ft. The two other tall ones look to be about 750-800ft. Definitely some nice height there in phase 2.

I am hesitant to take phase II exactly as it is. It will change most likely, and these are really concepts or visions of what may arise. Ultimately, it is very likely that parts of it will change, just like phase 1.

VG, how old is that render? 432 Park isn't done yet in it.

Looks like it's 6 months roughly.

I have to admit, I've always admired glass and stone faced towers, but with every tower in glass, it just looks so futuristic and exciting! :tup:

Star Trek...

The Chicago Spire would fit In nicely if plopped down right in the middle.

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A new picture of the tower has appeared at the related site, showing that this is taller than 35 HY.

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Interesting that Related added Tower Verre but left out Nordstrom and Steinway in their rendering.

^ Probably so we could see THEIR beautiful towers.

Either Related's buildings are rendered too tall or the Empire State is shown too short but something looks off in that rendering. Tower Verre looks taller than the ESB.

I thought Tower Verre (or 53W53) was being developed by Hines?

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The Hudson Yards hustle
With Related furiously locking in tenants, a look at who’s signed and how much space in the megaproject is left

November 01, 2015
By Rich Bockmann

two million sq ft? i'm gonna cry

I don't think the supertalls will stop at phase 1. Driven by market demand is great. Demand for office is high, and even more is expected in the years to come.

If anything, there is not enough. Even with all of the construction in the residential and office sectors, there's not enough according to most analysts. More Class-A space is needed.

No, there is not enough, even with the midtown east rezoning that is expected to add more development. That's why I'm not a big fan of changing some of the targeted commercial sites to residential, which can be built anywhere, and yes that includes 5 WTC.

As far as the 2nd phase goes, that is where Related expects to make money, on the residential portion of the railyard development. They will likely kick off the 50 Hudson Yards tower first (it's now scheduled for 2017 construction) as both 10 and 30 Hudson are practically full now. But that's also good news for Manhattan West, 3 Hudson, and Tishman's tower.

In a sense, the second phase is more or less Battery Park City.


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is the location for 15 Penn if I am not mistake. Verre would be to the left of ESB

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That rendering is bananas. Can't wait to see the area when it's finished.

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It's hard to tell from that rendering whether the southern-most buildings are within the Hudson Yards block or not. If not, it's worth noting that the entire two blocks south of 30th Street are also vacant and will likely be tall as well.

Those are the two that will sit above the school. The two with the curvy features are in the center (in the original zoning there were supposed to be no towers there, which is why
most of the competing site plands left that space open).


This is Related's original proposed site plan...


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Most people loved Brookfield's plan...


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Tishman had the original winning bid...


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Extell's bid....


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Durst/Vornado...


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Boy am I glad we got the design that is going up now.

What, you didn't like Extell's three-headed monster? Lol


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By Steve Cuozzo
June 6, 2016

Wow. Those pics bring me back. When were these proposals released? It must have been eight -nine years ago, right?

I remember thinking the Brookfield proposal was very nice but the Extell proposal was drop dead gorgeous and brilliant. Good to see that the younger me was right on the money. Geeesh, it's just so beautiful and cool. Now we know Extell would have neutered the design completely but at least we have those pictures.

I don't remember exactly how long it's been (so much has gone on since), but it was before the financial markets caved and everything everywhere was put on hold. But I do remember Brookfield's being a favorite.

Now we'll just sit back and wait for this next phase to see who Related selects to design these towers.

Looking back on it now I actually prefer the Vornado/Durst proposal. It has the one thing that Hudson Yards is sorely missing: a signature tower.

I'm sure that the centerpiece that Related has planned with Thomas Heatherwick will provide this element on the street level, but I'm still hoping for something to clearly break through the plateau on the skyline and give a focal point to the cluster. The Spiral had the development rights to do it, but it looks like Tishman is going with a more conservative approach. I'm not aware of any other assemblage that can make it work, but here's to hoping.

Given the fact that we now know what's rising around it, and the fact that 30 Hudson is taller, I don't know that it would have stood out any better. Ultimately, like the Related bid, it would have been revamped as well.



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Gehry and Stern confirmed....(western yards begins at about 36 minutes in)...


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Vanity addresses (addresses that overlay existing addresses) are often used in New York. Here's an interesting look at Related's plan for vanity addresses for its Hudson Yards development, which will include many towers...



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The layout of the entire plan, with building entrances:


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This Hudson Yards explosion will eventually consume the remaining open yards...



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Extell's proposal reminded me of Empire State Plaza in Albany. I think we lucked out with the current design.

IMO, the HN.com render would look better with the phase II section mirrored.
That way, the apices of the towers would point towards 30HY.

We need a megatall in haudson yards to finish the projet like a houdson spire

^ that would be nice!

there are supposed to be six residential towers, a school and one office/residential tower, so it could happen that we get a taller building than phase one has.

speaking of this, as the end of phase one is well in sight, has there been any word at all on when phase two starts?

i figured it would be sooner than later, because that is when related starts to make their money back and then the profit $$$.

Whatever happens, the first semi-official tower renders will be interesting.

What we've seen thus far is perhaps 99% architecturally conceptual, although some of the massings IMO indicates a more (NPI) concrete vision.

Would be nice if some of the residentials are like 111 W 57th Street (Steinway), 53W53 (Verre), and 520 Park Avenue. A few that are not primarily blue glass, please!!

That's not supposed to happen. The railyards development was given general guidelines of the taller towers being on the eastern half, and that's understandable. That's why I've always considered the western half to be the "Battery Park City" of this development. But Related has been known to push for exceptions to the site planning and guidelines. If there was significantly more money to be made by pushing towers higher, which I'm not sure there would be at this point, I could see them pushing for it. Remember, this is the half where everything is supposed to pay off for Related.

oh i didn't realize there was any agreement about taller on the eastern half and shorter on the western half of the yards.

unfortunately, whatever they do, it will be a sterile battery park north type of area, no helping that. clean and souless, thats what the type of people who will live there want.

It's really a golden opportunity to add a boat load of units. Nowadays, open land in Manhattan is super scarce bar the West side, and thats rapidly changing. 4 mil-sqft of residential is a ton, so it'll be several 1000 units. What I'm wondering is what the average sq ft will be for your typical HY Phase II residential unit? 500-750 sqft for example would be nice.