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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 9:06 PM
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I think most old cities have at least one example of things like that.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 9:06 PM
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We do have spaces like this, they are called lobbies and and there are a shit ton of them. We just aren't insane leaving the end open to be a wind tunnel when we could just heat the space and cool it in the summer...

This is no different than city hall or the rookery, it just is left open to the elements.

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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 9:28 PM
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Just for the hell of it, one of my favorite storefronts of all time, the former Robinson store in Philadelphia:

https://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conte...story.org_.jpg
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 9:32 PM
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Is echelon at K station being repainted from that dark yellow color to a light grey? Looks like half the building is light grey and the corners are still yellow. Great choice if that is the case; that building stood out like a sore thumb in the city skyline.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 10:12 PM
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We're not really talking about that type of open-air retail arcade in Budapest.

Here's another example of a recessed storefront (this one is from St. Louis):

https://i.imgur.com/6pWbLle.jpg

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They were very popular in the 1930s. Imo they only work well if they're brightly lit, in high traffic areas, and have been well maintained.

They still make sense for theaters where you expect lines to form at the ticket booth that you don't want backed up onto the sidewalk. Almost all old theaters have them.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2018, 11:21 PM
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The one downside to many of those Deco era storefront modernizations is that they can feel cramped. Like someone else said and that photo shows, the scale is rarely grand, with the tall glazing of the previous architectural fashion replaced with space for large signage and low vestibule ceilings as a result.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2018, 12:01 AM
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Is echelon at K station being repainted from that dark yellow color to a light grey? Looks like half the building is light grey and the corners are still yellow. Great choice if that is the case; that building stood out like a sore thumb in the city skyline.
Yea they started in the summer but much of the summer the painters were on strike. My guess is that is why it is not complete yet and might have to wait until spring.
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Even the Chandler Shoes storefront was a modernization of an earlier and itself handsome facade, which had also been modernized.

http://digital-libraries.saic.edu/cd...id/38202/rec/6
https://images.chicagohistory.org/de...n-building.htm
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Is echelon at K station being repainted from that dark yellow color to a light grey? Looks like half the building is light grey and the corners are still yellow. Great choice if that is the case; that building stood out like a sore thumb in the city skyline.
I noticed that too. The new color is fine, but I kinda liked the yellow as well.
It had a sort of Sim City 2000 look to it.
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I noticed that too. The new color is fine, but I kinda liked the yellow as well.
It had a sort of Sim City 2000 look to it.
Yeah, the yellow was fine and at least had the benefit of differentiating the building from the twins on Kinzie and K2. Now when viewed from the west and north west it reads as a flat homogenous blob. It is a similar, if smaller in scale, to the beige groupings of of buildings in river north. Looks blah.
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Even the Chandler Shoes storefront was a modernization of an earlier and itself handsome facade, which had also been modernized.

http://digital-libraries.saic.edu/cd...id/38202/rec/6
https://images.chicagohistory.org/de...n-building.htm
Thanks for that interesting bit of history. Interesting that the prior version was also carried out by Holabird and Roche. The difference of course being that the modernization of the lower floors there still made for a handsome building.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2018, 11:01 PM
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Interesting, I like the original design the best. It was really classy. The 30's deco is kind of fun though too. The later 50's design I'm guessing didn't age as well.
It shows how deco blended in with classical by using the same proportions, but in a fun hip style. Then in the 50's they threw classical proportions out the window to be modern. Classical proportions were around since the ancient Greeks, and are generally what humans relate to as being balanced.
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300 W. Division

$9,000,000 permit issued 11/29 for 7 STORY, I-B, 89 DU Apartment Building

Is this the Sammy's Red Hots location?

Anybody know of a render? This one seems to have flown under the radar
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$9,000,000 permit issued 11/29 for 7 STORY, I-B, 89 DU Apartment Building

Is this the Sammy's Red Hots location?

Anybody know of a render? This one seems to have flown under the radar
Nothin says lovin like a project that flew in under the radar....
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 5:43 PM
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$9,000,000 permit issued 11/29 for 7 STORY, I-B, 89 DU Apartment Building

Is this the Sammy's Red Hots location?

Anybody know of a render? This one seems to have flown under the radar
red. hot.

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1773...St-Chicago-IL/
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 6:09 PM
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^ Loopnet describes it as a "perfect place for a drive-thru franchise". Bunch of suburban minded dipwads. Luckily the owners are doing something far more fitting for the site.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 6:21 PM
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$9,000,000 permit issued 11/29 for 7 STORY, I-B, 89 DU Apartment Building

Is this the Sammy's Red Hots location?

Anybody know of a render? This one seems to have flown under the radar
Maybe I don't know how the $ are accounted for on the building permit, but at $101K per unit, that's a cheap building..even without land costs!
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 6:39 PM
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^ Dollar values listed on permits do not equate with actual construction costs.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 9:55 PM
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^ Loopnet describes it as a "perfect place for a drive-thru franchise". Bunch of suburban minded dipwads. Luckily the owners are doing something far more fitting for the site.
Maybe their descriptions assumes no major demolition/construction? But yes, agree that it will be good to see this developed. As long as the gyros place a couple blocks down division is still there to provide 2am cheeseburgers.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2018, 9:59 PM
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City is proposing to end some TIFs early. Any thoughts from this group? Some are noted as having finished their goals early, but others seemed to have failed or died out. The 5 are:
  • Read Dunning
  • Ravenswood
  • Calumet/Cermak
  • Weed/Fremont
  • Drexel Boulevard


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