CHICAGO | Legacy at Millennium Park | 819 FT / 250 M | 73 FLOORS | 2010

[SolarWind]

February 13, 2008

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[photoLith]

Finally, some more construction pics, thanks man!

[simcityaustin]

A better picture was already posted, but I thought I mine as well.... 2/16/08

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/maxisguy/Legacy21608-1.jpg

[dagobert]

Looks like when it rains, it pours. No updates for some time and then bam!

Thanks wrabbit, SolarWind and simcityaustin.

[Alliance]

Now that we're onto (or just at) the main floor of the building, updates will become much more common.

[mkdr2]

Just found out they will be on a 3 day per floor cycle after the 15th floor.

[Harold92]

Just found out they will be on a 3 day per floor cycle after the 15th floor.

Glad to hear that because it seems to be moving along pretty slowly at the moment.

[aaron38]

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z236/newstl2020/Chicago/DSC00087.jpg

You can see Legacy's crane in the bottom RIGHT of this shot that Newstl2020 posted in the BCBS thread.

Edited for failing 1st grade.

[Ryan81]

You can see Legacy's crane in the bottom left of this shot that Newstl2020 posted in the BCBS thread.

The OTHER left

[BVictor1]

02/23/08

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/596035.jpg

[ddavidson]

Have any condo buyers gone through the design center to pick out flooring and other options? I am looking for some feed back.

[a chicago bearcat]

You can see Legacy's crane in the bottom RIGHT of this shot that Newstl2020 posted in the BCBS thread.

Edited for failing 1st grade.

this view will be wonderful for the next 3 years
with waterview cropping into view, then legacy becoming prominent
then trump topping out in time for the spire to pierce the frame

awesome

[JV_325i]

Today:

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[McStructures]

From above....3-6-08

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/IMG_3909.jpg

[jjk1103]

......that photo shows just how tight that site really is ......

[gct13]

March 8, 2008:

http://gct13.com/i/200803-chicago/legacy-at-millennium-park-chicago-7237.jpg

[JV_325i]

Keep on truckin'
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[bnk]

Thanks for the photos guys.

This site has got to be one of the hardest sites to get an unobstructed view of that I have ever seen. This will be very difficult to document, esp in the lower stages.

[Alliance]

..as evidenced.

Thanks JV.

[Sir Isaac Newton]

Thanks for the photos guys.

This site has got to be one of the hardest sites to get an unobstructed view of that I have ever seen. This will be very difficult to document, esp in the lower stages.

As of now, this one is definitely difficult to get an unobstructed view of....but I am guessing that within the next month or two, it will become visible on the Michigan Avenue streetwall? I Think we should definitely be able to have very good views of Legacy rising, this summer, from Millenium Park or the northern part of Grant Park...

[Alliance]

some shots from a wonderful sleety/snoy/rainy/cold/hazy day in Chicago:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2342689450_63cce61508_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2342689450_63cce61508_b.jpg

[Tom Servo]

off topic, but man that destefano tower turned out WAY better than what we've ever seen from them. i think i might actually like it. :frog:

* nice pics sir
:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:

[honte]

^ That's because it's not really a DeStefano...

Welcome home, Alliance. Nice to see this one reaching adolescence. First surprise for me is that cantilevered section. Is this for the connection into bridge to the health club?

[Alliance]

Thank you both. Its always nice to be home, even when the weather is crappy. :cool:

[BVictor1]

^ That's because it's not really a DeStefano...

Welcome home, Alliance. Nice to see this one reaching adolescence. First surprise for me is that cantilevered section. Is this for the connection into bridge to the health club?

The bridge will go from the University Club to the Sharp Building.

03/22/08
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[wrab]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2342689450_63cce61508_b.jpg

Whoa, I hadn't appreciated until now that the Legacy sits right behind Michigan Ave's Gage group - not sure yet if that is a good thing or a bad thing

[aaron38]

Whoa, I hadn't appreciated until now that the Legacy sits right behind Michigan Ave's Gage group - not sure yet if that is a good thing or a bad thing

Looks pretty good from this view. It'll be a nice glassy background at street level.
http://lynnbecker.com/repeat/%20wabash/parkviewlarge.jpg

From the closeup showing the round column forms and comparing to the model, they should be done with the base and into the tower itself now.

[mkdr2]

I agree with aaron. They are on 15 now. Residences are starting. Lets see if they keep to a 3 day per floor schedule.

[Dr. Taco]

I'll be working in 55 E. Monroe in about a month and a half, so hopefully I can get some good pictures of the construction for you guys

[BVictor1]

I agree with aaron. They are on 15 now. Residences are starting. Lets see if they keep to a 3 day per floor schedule.

I think you mean 3 floor per week.

I'd rather not see them rush it though. 2 floors would be sufficient.

[mkdr2]

I think you mean 3 floor per week.

I'd rather not see them rush it though. 2 floors would be sufficient.

I was told by the sales office the construction schedule is 3 days per floor, once they start the condos. I'm going to be on 48 so I have about 2 years before occupancy.

[Tom Servo]

Whoa, I hadn't appreciated until now that the Legacy sits right behind Michigan Ave's Gage group - not sure yet if that is a good thing or a bad thing

if you ask me, it's a bad thing. i'd call myself a 'nimby' when it comes to these stupid facade jobs on LAND-MARKED wabash ave. :koko: i think this tower will look like a better heritage; looming and out of place. :shrug:
we just keep on destroying our history one building at a time. and for any doubters who think the facade job will look great, go look at the heritage's disney land result. same firm, same product. thumbs down.

[Marcu]

I'll be working in 55 E. Monroe in about a month and a half, so hopefully I can get some good pictures of the construction for you guys

Thanks

[Chicago3rd]

if you ask me, it's a bad thing. i'd call myself a 'nimby' when it comes to these stupid facade jobs on LAND-MARKED wabash ave. :koko: i think this tower will look like a better heritage; looming and out of place. :shrug:
we just keep on destroying our history one building at a time. and for any doubters who think the facade job will look great, go look at the heritage's disney land result. same firm, same product. thumbs down.

I love it....don't think we lost any history from inside the buildings...so keeping the public part...the front part is great and fantastic. Keep the facades authenic then we have a great solution. I love love love the McGraw Hill Building on N Michigan Avenue.

[Marcu]

if you ask me, it's a bad thing. i'd call myself a 'nimby' when it comes to these stupid facade jobs on LAND-MARKED wabash ave. :koko: i think this tower will look like a better heritage; looming and out of place. :shrug:
we just keep on destroying our history one building at a time. and for any doubters who think the facade job will look great, go look at the heritage's disney land result. same firm, same product. thumbs down.

We have to strike a balance between competing priorities. We can argue for hours about what the right balance is, but taking an absolute preservationist position doesn't advance your argument and will fall on deaf ears.

[honte]

We have to strike a balance between competing priorities. We can argue for hours about what the right balance is, but taking an absolute preservationist position doesn't advance your argument and will fall on deaf ears.

Sometimes it's valid, sometimes not. I think it's a worthwhile debate, and no one has the answer.

In the case of the Heritage, the buildings were not protected, and I was pleased we got anything out of it. In this case, while I personally am happy we are seeing this tower go up, it is worth considering the precedent and unfortunate fact that the buildings were indeed landmarks. The most destructive part of this tower, in my opinion, has to do with the Gage group and Jewelers' building, both protected Sullivan landmarks that are losing their prominence and context.

On the other hand, if the Commission demonstrating that they are willing to analyze proposals on a case-by-case basis leads to more landmarks, then it's hard to argue. But everyone is watching to see if the Ordinance itself has been undermined legally by the precedents that are being set.

[haurb]

Sometimes it's valid, sometimes not. I think it's a worthwhile debate, and no one has the answer.

In the case of the Heritage, the buildings were not protected, and I was pleased we got anything out of it. In this case, while I personally am happy we are seeing this tower go up, it is worth considering the precedent and unfortunate fact that the buildings were indeed landmarks. The most destructive part of this tower, in my opinion, has to do with the Gage group and Jewelers' building, both protected Sullivan landmarks that are losing their prominence and context.

On the other hand, if the Commission demonstrating that they are willing to analyze proposals on a case-by-case basis leads to more landmarks, then it's hard to argue. But everyone is watching to see if the Ordinance itself has been undermined legally by the precedents that are being set.

The thing that is hardest to swallow with me is what this will do to landmarked buildings in the future. What this did was open the floodgates for the argument that building around a facade is the same as preserving a structure. I know there are a few other buildings in the area that developers have been drooling over for the past few years, mainly the Chicago Athletic Association Building, to do the same thing. I think there comes a point where a line needs to be drawn, because we are in danger of losing some beautiful structures.

[SolarWind]

March 28, 2008

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[Alliance]

So, we're currently not even going at a floor per week.

[BVictor1]

Sometimes it's valid, sometimes not. I think it's a worthwhile debate, and no one has the answer.

In the case of the Heritage, the buildings were not protected, and I was pleased we got anything out of it. In this case, while I personally am happy we are seeing this tower go up, it is worth considering the precedent and unfortunate fact that the buildings were indeed landmarks. The most destructive part of this tower, in my opinion, has to do with the Gage group and Jewelers' building, both protected Sullivan landmarks that are losing their prominence and context.

On the other hand, if the Commission demonstrating that they are willing to analyze proposals on a case-by-case basis leads to more landmarks, then it's hard to argue. But everyone is watching to see if the Ordinance itself has been undermined legally by the precedents that are being set.

Only the facades were landmarked, and as we know, they are to be restored. There was nothing special about the interiors of the buildings which had been altered repeatedly over the years.

Landmarks don't have to sit along to be important. The Gage Group and Jewelers Building need significant work. This happening would be extremely important.

[honte]

^ Absolutely untrue. The buildings were part of the Jewelers' Row landmark district, which does not stipulate whether facades or buildings are landmarked. It is up to the Commission to decide when they receive a proposal. In fact, no building in Chicago has ever been limited by designating just the facade. They go back later and make the call. We do have several now that have been reduced to just facades, but they didn't start out that way.

I don't know what you're getting at with the last comment, but if you mean that they should do a facade treatment on the Gage group, you've got to be kidding me. You have to draw the line somewhere.

[BVictor1]

^ Absolutely untrue. The buildings were part of the Jewelers' Row landmark district, which does not stipulate whether facades or buildings are landmarked. It is up to the Commission to decide when they receive a proposal. In fact, no building in Chicago has ever been limited by designating just the facade. They go back later and make the call. We do have several now that have been reduced to just facades, but they didn't start out that way.

I don't know what you're getting at with the last comment, but if you mean that they should do a facade treatment on the Gage group, you've got to be kidding me. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Did I say facade treatment?

I said they need significant work. I guess I should have said that they need to be restored. The Sullivan part of the Gage group is sagging on it's northern end and the Jewelers, well you've seen it. I do have my limits.

[Dr. Taco]

^ I was at the May house in Grand Rapids yesterday, and I have to say restoration can be a reaaally good thing. But you gotta exclusively have people working on the job who literally worship the original architect
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[Alliance]

Wasn't there an issue too where the insides of the buildings had already been changed from thier original form prior to the landmarking?

I was under the impression that the original floorplans had already been altered, hence no reson to maintian them. Only the the facade was original, hence only the need to maintain them.

[honte]

^ Not exactly how it works. Building floorplans get changed all the time, but parts of the interiors get preserved. This can happen with a lobby (London Guarantee), important room (such as a ballroom in the Blackstone), or even a detail as small as a staircase rail (Mashall Fields).

The argument that allowed the demolition of these buildings was that they were just loft buildings with pretty facades; little contributing on the interiors. The general agreement was that the interiors and rear structure were not the important parts of the buildings.

[aic4ever]

^ The landmarking is an interesting process. Landmarks seems to be able to designate whatever they feel like on a building, and not necessarily the whole building, other than to designate orange or red to get in the way of tearing it down. Three Arts Club, for instance, has the facade and the first floor interior designated as landmarked.

Landmarks is its own entity and is not tied to the State or National Historic Registers that I can tell, though I may be wrong there. Landmarks aims in my observation mostly to preserve the "neighborhood" and "old world" kind of feel of the city in terms of access to buildings by the public, which in most cases are how the building looks from the outside.

Overall, in order to allow your project to move forward, Landmarks must approve of your design, or you're probably just going to get rejected for a permit. Tied to the Landmarks approval is an astounding tax benefit known as Class L, which essentially allows the owner of the building to have the property assessed as if it were residential, for about 12 years, which for those of you who know anything about how property is assessed for tax purposes, is a monstrous savings if the building is used for commercial purposes.

[honte]

^ Reply is in State of Chicago Architecture thread.

[photoLith]

How exactly are they integrating the historic building facades with the new building, will these facades be part of the building or will they become retail and then the new tower will rise behind them. I wish there was a rendering showing this.

[i_am_hydrogen]

^The actual facades are just attached to the new building.

Photo by Solarwind:
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[wrab]

2 April:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/20080403pano21.jpg

[jjk1103]

How exactly are they integrating the historic building facades with the new building, will these facades be part of the building or will they become retail and then the new tower will rise behind them. I wish there was a rendering showing this.

..they will almost certainly be 1st floor retail.....and they will be reattached to the new building forming the parking garage on the 2nd thru 5th floors.....

[intrepidDesign]

Any recent construction picks?

[jjk1103]

Any recent construction picks?

.....me too !!

[Chitown]

Any recent construction picks?
Or pics? ;)

[Nowhereman1280]

Or pics? ;)

Or Pix? ;)

[Jibba]

Today
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/667/dsc04685uc6.jpg

[intrepidDesign]

Thanks for the pique, Jabba. Seems like this one is going slow. I could be wrong because of the angle, but it looks like maybe only two more floors since the previous April 2nd picture.

[Nowhereman1280]

Now that they are into the meat of the tower, it should start to really take off at that one floor every three days we were promised!

[honte]

Very nice shot of the transfer floor.

[Chitown]

Thanks for the pique, Jabba. Seems like this one is going slow. I could be wrong because of the angle, but it looks like maybe only two more floors since the previous April 2nd picture.
*shrugs*

It's only been two weeks.

[jjk1103]

Now that they are into the meat of the tower, it should start to really take off at that one floor every three days we were promised!

....so you're saying that they have the parking structure, and roof top deck complete and it is "all tower" from here on out ?! :notacrook:

[mkdr2]

It does look like they are into the main structure now. Condos start on 15 and that floor is even with the roof of the art institute building to the right of Legacy.Look at the photos of the model on page 7.

[intrepidDesign]

Yeah I'm really excited about this building! One feature of the Legacy that I love is the various sky gardens. I haven't really seen any other building doing this, at least none going over 60 floors. The only new construction I can think of that comes close to something like this is Aqua with its large pool/garden level.

[Jibba]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1541/dsc04781gc9.jpg

[Alliance]

THERE SHE GOES! :banana:

[mkdr2]

Looks like they are working on 18.:cheers:

[NYC2ATX]

THERE SHE GOES! :banana:

....AND....the Crown Fountain is RUNNING!! Summer here we come! :cool:

[Jibba]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/592/dsc04920mf1.jpg

[mkdr2]

Jibba, thanks for the update. There are some new construction photos on the Legacy site.

[simcityaustin]

Sometimes I forget how big of an impact this one will have on the skyline.

I noticed that the photo for the first page is no good...does anyone have some good renders of this tower for the first page?

[shaberko]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7104/legacyatmillenniumpark9lz.jpg

http://www.340owners.com/news_documents/images/slatin1.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

Seems to fit in most nicely.

[pip]

This is actually one of my favorite buildings of the boom. I think this building will have much more of an impact than pictures suggests.

[i_am_hydrogen]

From the west:
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1563/legacywestfacezn3.jpg

[IRLaw]

I've never seen that render from the west, looks great!

[jjk1103]

............I think I asked this question once before and never got an answer.....are they going to finish off the base (and remove the steel scaffold) as the building rises .....or is the steel scaffolding (on Wabash) going to stay until the building is near completion ?

[Northwest]

Love the west facing side of this beauty.
It will be great to finally be able to monitor the progress as this rises higher and higher above its surroundings! :D
I would guess the historic facade will be attached to the structure concurrently as the tower rises, but I do not know for sure. The summer months may be the best time to complete the restoration of the stonework.

[honte]

............I think I asked this question once before and never got an answer.....are they going to finish off the base (and remove the steel scaffold) as the building rises .....or is the steel scaffolding (on Wabash) going to stay until the building is near completion ?

The city does not like to have obstructions like this on the sidewalks. There are associated fees. I am sure the team will secure the facades to the new structure as soon as possible and get started with the rest of the work.

[ardecila]

I hope so. Wabash is a huge mess for pedestrians right now, with Legacy and the streetscaping project going on and blocking sidewalks. I think there's some sidewalk vault filling going on too, in front of the Elephant and Castle.

[andydie]

Hiya guys,

here comes a lil surprise for you, a video for the Legacy at Millennium Park. Hope you enjoy it:) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grnVbP7rNk

Music: Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor

[mkdr2]

Great job Andy :tup:

[jcchii]

seems to be a lot of work on the underside of the L tracks through there too. Going from tan to the same dark brownish color of the bridges with this paint job.

[andydie]

Great job Andy :tup:

thank you. Seems like preserving old facades takes a lot of work and time if you look at the progress of the site.

[Tom In Chicago]

Nice work andydie. . . but I absolutely hate that choice of music. . .

. . .

[tintinex]

Great video as usual Andy! I personally love the song.

[andydie]

Nice work andydie. . . but I absolutely hate that choice of music. . .

. . .

well I can´t please everybody with my music choices, maybe the update in a month will suit ya better.

Thank you Miguel and Adam :)

[Adam186]

Thanks for the video Andy. I always look forward to them.

[SolarWind]

April 29, 2008

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[SolarWind]

I agree with everyone else - great job, andydie! Thanks for taking the time to create the videos. Are you taking music requests? How about The Love Bite "Take Your Time"? That's about as Techno as I get (it has a sample of Orbital's Chime). :cheers:

[andydie]

:previous: thank you SolarWind. If you guys have any Music requests for future vids Private Message them to me so we don´t go off topic on the boards.

[SolarWind]

Thank you, andydie!

[aaron38]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2471779839_a2465afa62_b.jpg


Wow, Legacy is WIDE in this shot. None of the renders really show it front on like this. It's going to have a big presence.

[BVictor1]

05/04/08

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/05/614649.jpg

[Alliance]

However...I'm not worried bout Legacy's bulk. It was always apparent form the renders that its slimness was a contrivance of its wedge shape. It will be bultier form the back. However, it is and 800'er, so I doubt it will really end up being that bad.

I'm also glad Hyatt won't be completely covered up :D

[Steely Dan]

if you guts want to rail against mid-continetal plaza (55 e. monroe), go do it in another thread.

let's get this one back on track.

[jcchii]

this one is going to start being shocking as it goes up. it's really front and center

[NYC2ATX]

Wow, Legacy is WIDE in this shot. None of the renders really show it front on like this. It's going to have a big presence.

Yes, I never realized the shape of this building's footprint was trapezoidal, as opposed to a slightly crooked rectangle. To be quite honest, that makes me twice as intrigued by and interested in this building. I'm now really pleased that it's going up.

Anyone know if the entrance is going to be in the alley between Michigan and Wabash (Garland Court), like Heritage?

[mkdr2]

The entrance is on Monroe. The Legacy has permanent rights to half of the first floor of the art institute building on Monroe and Wabash.

[aaron38]

However...I'm not worried bout Legacy's bulk. It was always apparent form the renders that its slimness was a contrivance of its wedge shape. It will be bulkier form the back. However, it is an 800'er, so I doubt it will really end up being that bad.

No, I didn't mean I thought it was too wide or anything. I was just surprised, wasn't expecting it. I don't think it's going to look bad at all.

[Ryan81]

Picture posted by Wrabbit in the Trump Tower Thread.


Just think how great the Legacy is going to fit into this shot! Wow. Also, the BCBS expansion should make a nice impact.....not to mention the Spire.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/050408_1338.jpg

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