Cathedral Place | ? m | 10 fl | Proposed

[thomax]

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Floorpans pdf.

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- Located at 252-254 James Street North & 207 Hughson Street North
- Double height glass atrium connecting the two heritage buildings on the Cathedral grounds, which will run from James Street to Hughson Street
- A courtyard will be located in the setback space between the new building and Cathedral
- Parking will be underground with 53 parking spaces planned, including the requirement to replace the City’s parking spots
- Designed by David Premi Architects Inc.

[davidcappi]

Neat. I like it, but oh my god I can just hear the complaints from people who live in that neighbourhood already.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Yeah, I dunno. I hate to say it but it looks totally out of scale for the neighbourhood. I'm not sure how happy I'd be if that were going up on my street.

[palace1]

The idea sounds positive if it will generate money for Christ's Church Cathedral / Niagara Anglican Diocese.
Any details about whether they are getting all of the profit from the development, and any guesses on how much this could generate?

I don't like the image of the facade. A modern boxy design like that would be better suited for a large standalone condo building.
Hughson is basically a residential street here (even though 4 lanes wide and one-way).
I would prefer a design reflecting the cathedral's gothic stone architecture or the neighbouring Victorian red brick housing.

[davidcappi]

It's funny, because if they wanted to build this on any other lot in the city, I'd be overjoyed. I just don't think it works in that neighbourhood.

[interr0bangr]

Hamilton Cathedral Place revitalization gets approved by Anglican Diocese of Niagara

http://www.chch.com/hamilton-cathedr...gets-approved/

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[ScreamingViking]

Initially I wasn't so sure about the fit of the mid-rise portion along Hughson, but this whole plan is beginning to intrigue me more and more.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

I'm just happy they're not knocking it down - how refreshing!

[matt602]

Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan of this project. Some smart intensification going on here.

[realcity]

Is that the existing manse on the left of that rendering? Labeled commercial on the floor plan. I hope that's not coming down and a faux heritage building in its place.

[matt602]

Originally Posted by realcity

Is that the existing manse on the left of that rendering? Labeled commercial on the floor plan. I hope that's not coming down and a faux heritage building in its place.

pretty sure that's existing.

[anniebanny]

Originally Posted by davidcappi

Neat. I like it, but oh my god I can just hear the complaints from people who live in that neighbourhood already.

I don't live downtown but I think this needs to blend more into the surrounding community buildings. It sticks out like a sore thumb. It looks like those shoe box/ shipping cargo crates looking type condos in downtown Toronto.

[timach]

Originally Posted by anniebanny

I don't live downtown but I think this needs to blend more into the surrounding community buildings. It sticks out like a sore thumb. It looks like those shoe box/ shipping cargo crates looking type condos in downtown Toronto.

IS the actually happening still?

[King&James]

there should be a folder for all the dream projects - maybe labelled Renders to Remember. That would be stuffed filled of projects here

[eatboots]

I'm pretty sure the cathedral bought the city parking lot on Hughson recently so this project may be more alive than we think.

[Chronamut]

it would be nice to be able to go into the"bistro cathedrale" building- to my knowledge it's not open to the public.. only the cathedral.. the cathedral is beautiful inside btw

I did an art piece of this building:

http://shawndall.com/featured/a-chur...hawn-dall.html

[thomax]

Christ's Church to dig up and identify hundreds of bodies buried under its parking lot

Over the years, the graves have been paved over. In some cases, bones were thrown in dumpsters

By Samantha Craggs | September 6, 2017

Hamilton's Christ's Church Cathedral wants to dig up and relocate the remains of about 400 people —including those of many teens and children — buried under a parking lot to make way for a multi-million dollar condo and retail project.
 
The Very Rev. Peter Wall told councillors today the Niagara Anglican diocese would like to identify and remove the bodies, now buried in "asphalt hell,"  beneath the parking lot of the James Street North church.

Wall says they likely died from illness and disease and their bodies are part of a large burial of 762 graves.
 
The diocese plans a condo, retail and commercial development around the historic church, which is one of the oldest cathedrals in Canada. The lot is behind the church bordering Hughson Street North.

The diocese has already hired an archaeological firm to help with the project, Wall said.

Many of the 762 graves were lost over the years. Some were unidentified and never had gravestones, he said.

Others were relocated or tossed, said Wall, recalling stories of construction crews over the years that tossed bones in dumpsters.

Now, there are different rules. The relocation will include a nationwide call for next of kin, he said. The church currently has about 25 stones in its basement associated with some of the graves. But many are a mystery.

The redevelopment is necessary to stay in the increasingly expensive James Street North location, Wall said.

Upkeep costs run the congregation of about 300 families as much as $300,000 per year, he said.

"We're in the midst of trying to figure out our future," he said. "We want to stay where we are. It's tough. It's expensive."

The congregation dates back to 1835.

[ScreamingViking]

I was quite shocked to read that earlier today. I'm sure it's not that uncommon, but still. Time to show some respect to the deceased no matter what happens with the proposal itself.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

It's interesting but you're right, not terribly unusual. There was that business a few years back in Ancaster. I bet that if you were to dig around any old church you'd find all sorts of goodies.