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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 3:50 AM
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^In between Legacy and Trump.....insert tower here. also kind of sucks there will never be a tower in between the gap of Vista and Aon from that view.
Site I will help balance some of the height out as it will extend noticeably farther east of Vista and make it look less lonely.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 3:52 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure. We still have that prime lot of riverfront property next to the NBC building.
That's a ridic prime location.. how could they not.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 4:20 AM
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Just an outsiders perspective or opinion, but I'd kinda hope future super talls rise near the Sears tower because if your looking at the skyline from the lake, you have Sears, and than a plateau of about 600-800' towers or so, and than there is a dividing line. I believe its Randolph street, both from the West to the East where up to this line, and heading North, the bulk of the super talls reside.

Kinda creates a gap in the middle between Sears and everything North of Randolph. I think this is a positive aesthetically, but I also feel like Sears is kinda lonely. Sears is what the ESB use to be like for NYC. I'd be nice if that area near Greektown or the West Loop Gate could fill up, and possibly include the area near the Postal Service near Clinton Street. I feel this would not only preserve aesthetics, but give the skyline that extra bulk needed.

That 110 North Wacker tower you guys have is a start, and I'd hope more like that or taller rise somewhat near Sears.

Not just via the lake perspective either, but if your coming from Midway airport. IDK, I just always felt Sears is just a tall abrupt end to the apparent skyline from a magnitude perspective, and that more infill in the vicinity will greatly aid in the "wow" factor.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 5:40 AM
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^ yeah no, Sears tower is such a giant that even if the proposed Tribune tower was built near it it would disappear in its shadow.....
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 9:37 AM
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^ yeah no, Sears tower is such a giant that even if the proposed Tribune tower was built near it it would disappear in its shadow.....
Neighboring 311 South Wacker - roof 961 ft almost a supertall - looks small next to the ST.

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Old Posted Jan 30, 2020, 2:02 PM
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^ yeah no, Sears tower is such a giant that even if the proposed Tribune tower was built near it it would disappear in its shadow.....
This is so true. There's a parking garage just to the east of Sears on the other side of Franklin. That could and should eventually be redeveloped. Even if that becomes a supertall, the lot is half the size of the base of Sears. It would be super skinny. Sears is so damn thick.

Most of the other blocks near Sears in the Loop are already developed by those 500-800 ft towers. Unless a company with massive amounts of money wants to redevelop one of those towers a la 270 Park Ave in Manhattan, I just don't see a future where Sears gets a neighbor that has a similar presence. That kind of company would need Chase Bank money. Chicago doesn't have that kind of company. Maybe Boeing once they get past the whole 737 Max issue.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2020, 5:57 PM
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Skyline shot on February 2, 2020, from the south lakefront path:



I like that from this vantage point, the Big 4 (Willis, 401 N Wabash, Aon, Hancock) now have company. I think it's my favorite perspective, especially since it shows NEMA's most dynamic angle.
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Skyline shot on February 2, 2020, from the south lakefront path:
The most shocking thing about this panorama is that there are 800 ft. buildings that are barely visible.

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Old Posted Feb 4, 2020, 4:01 PM
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^Haha yeah! and I'm surprised at how Nema and Vista towers look taller than 401 N Wabash. Vista is a great looking building and darker looking than I thought from a distance.
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The most shocking thing about this panorama is that there are 800 ft. buildings that are barely visible.
800' isn't what it once was in chicago.

when i joined this forum in 1999, there were only 9 towers in the city over 800' tall.

once Salesforce kicks off any week now, the city will have 20 towers over 800' including U/C projects.

back in 1999, the city's 20th tallest building was NBC tower at 627'. the ceiling has been raised ~200' over the past 2 decades.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2020, 8:21 PM
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Nema has made a huge impact. Yall know I am new here, but this is still funny. My gf said she thought that was the tallest building(taller than ST, obviously) the other day. I live right next to it so it does stand out really nicely.
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The architecture and placement of NEMA on the skyline is sublime. They really hit that one out of the park. Needs a nighttime lighting scheme though.
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Nema has made a huge impact. Yall know I am new here, but this is still funny. My gf said she thought that was the tallest building(taller than ST, obviously) the other day. I live right next to it so it does stand out really nicely.
Funny, but this does say it all about NEMA’s design. That the laywoman thinks this is the 2nd tallest building goes to show the building visually soars! From the angle above, NEMA has made its way into my top five tower designs of all time!
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2020, 3:39 PM
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Funny, but this does say it all about NEMA’s design. That the laywoman thinks this is the 2nd tallest building goes to show the building visually soars! From the angle above, NEMA has made its way into my top five tower designs of all time!
Yeah, its funny, I was talking about how much I love that building(and the Paragon) and she was surprised. We mostly see it from Michigan Avenue, so we see a massive parking garage and lot. But what makes it so nice to me is the towering design of it. It stands out, for sure. Up close I don't think its all that special, but man does that thing make you know its there.
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Yeah, its funny, I was talking about how much I love that building(and the Paragon) and she was surprised. We mostly see it from Michigan Avenue, so we see a massive parking garage and lot. But what makes it so nice to me is the towering design of it. It stands out, for sure. Up close I don't think its all that special, but man does that thing make you know its there.
I love the building. Agree with all the positive comments on it. Anyone know how leasing is going?
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I love the building. Agree with all the positive comments on it. Anyone know how leasing is going?
I can see a lot of lights turned on at night so that's probably a good sign? (although I suppose they could be faked)
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2020, 5:40 PM
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Yeah, I have no idea. Its a TAD out of my price range and I am not up on that type of stuff. I toured the Paragon though, and the dude acted like they were filling up fast. Could be true, could be pressure. He did tell me that three people viewed one of the units I liked eithin 4 hours of me leaving. That either indicates theres a lot of interest in the building or that hes a huge liar. I will never know.

I will say the Paragon is beautiful and the units are actually priced decently for what you get.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2020, 4:34 PM
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I can see a lot of lights turned on at night so that's probably a good sign? (although I suppose they could be faked)
I can't speak for NEMA, but I read an article on Paragon that specifically mentioned the building manager's ability to control lights in all the units, such that it made the building look more vibrant and appealing to potential renters.

So yeah, the many lights on at Paragon could be (a) a mostly full building or (b) fancy parlor tricks to entice better leasing numbers. Either way, it's a great building and I love that it graces the South Loop's skyline.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2020, 5:33 PM
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Yeah, I have no idea. Its a TAD out of my price range and I am not up on that type of stuff. I toured the Paragon though, and the dude acted like they were filling up fast. Could be true, could be pressure. He did tell me that three people viewed one of the units I liked eithin 4 hours of me leaving. That either indicates theres a lot of interest in the building or that hes a huge liar. I will never know.

I will say the Paragon is beautiful and the units are actually priced decently for what you get.
Got it, thanks.
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Will this change to the census alter the micro analysis of neighborhoods and census tracks? It seems like they will intentionally change the estimates.

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