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Transit Statistics

Does anyone know a real source for daily ridership/boardings for the 99 B-Line?

I can't seem to be able to find one.


And awhile ago, someone here posted stats on how full buses were after leaving each 99 B-Line station. I can't find that either. Thanks.
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Take the max load of each bus and then multiply by the number of busses that run per hour and you have the ridership right there.

On a serious note, I wonder how one would do ridership stats on the B-line since it is all door boarding. It would even be harder to keep track of passenger traffic going on/off at each respective stop. I would also love to see the stats on this and the 98 if it exists.
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^ on some buses, there are black red boxes with red optical sensors located at the 3 doors of the bus. I'm guessing they count all the movements past the box, they total it up and divide it by two to get the approx. riders? iunno.


I do recall the newspapers saying ridership on the 98 was 60,000 daily, but i'm wondering if they meant all three B-Lines (97, 98, 99) are 60,000.
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2007 data:



And this is how I read it:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1789
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I wonder when their collecting period for the data was. The 99 will vary a lot more over the course of the year than most buses (due to UBC being/not being in session). If they collected in the winter, the real average ridership is probably lower. If they collected in the summer, the real average ridership is probably higher. If they collected throughout the year, then that's probably a good average, but the figure would be quite a bit higher in the winter, and correspondingly lower in the summer.
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Thanks nname!


We are pulling together something for the UBC SkyTrain group. It's going to be big. What I'd like to ask from you guys - if you have time - is to throw me EVERY report and statistic on transit in the region. No matter how obvious that fact or statistic is or even if you think I already have that report and statistic. And I mean EVERYTHING...so that we can sift through it.

Thanks in advance.
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We are pulling together something for the UBC SkyTrain group. It's going to be big. What I'd like to ask from you guys - if you have time - is to throw me EVERY report and statistic on transit in the region. No matter how obvious that fact or statistic is or even if you think I already have that report and statistic. And I mean EVERYTHING...so that we can sift through it.

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Metro Vancouver's offical transit annual statistics (1989 -2007)

Transit Ridership 1989-2007

PASSENGER TRIPS
DATE | BUS | SKYTRAIN | SEABUS | WEST COAST EXPRESS | TOTAL
1989 | 93,609,031 | 14,508,925 | 1,924,391 | N.A. | 110,042,347
1990 | 87,243,915 | 16,662,634 | 2,415,443 | N.A. | 106,321,985
1991 | 86,955,653 | 16,334,008 | 2,259,295 | N.A. | 105,548,962
1992 | 86,959,408 | 16,782,848 | 2,260,395 | N.A. | 106,002,651
1993 | 84,319,536 | 17,184,178 | 2,172,983 | N.A. | 103,676,696
1994 | 87,307,201 | 19,408,432 | 2,201,151 | N.A. | 108,916,786
1995 | 91,170,514 | 21,342,496 | 2,429,517 | N.A. | 114,942,523
1996 | 95,179,069 | 23,616,743 | 2,802,124 | N.A. | 121,597,936
1997 | 95,600,114 | 24,236,080 | 2,842,397 | N.A. | 122,678,589
1998 | 96,029,491 | 24,179,982 | 2,632,100 | 1,602,891 | 122,841,576
1999 | 97,048,081 | 24,552,408 | 2,684,866 | 1,633,502 | 125,918,857
2000 | 98,595,632 | 25,928,173 | 2,864,149 | 1,733,959 | 129,121,913
2001 | 62,555,900 | 29,705,935 | 1,738,765 | 1,710,814 | 95,711,414
2002 | 94,906,702 | 29,448,779 | 2,488,442 | 1,736,137 | 128,580,060
2003 | 105,542,744 | 33,897,781 | 2,450,165 | 1,736,627 | 143,627,317
2004 | 114,611,738 | 36,602,020 | 2,549,669 | 1,830,589 | 155,594,016
2005 | 117,024,721 | 38,145,071 | 2,650,060 | 1,896,907 | 159,716,758
2006 | 119,914,967 | 40,369,019 | 2,731,713 | 2,057,500 | 165,073,200

2007|01| 10,372,110 | 3,269,981 | 214,636 | 201,397 | 14,058,123
2007|02| 10,334,944 | 3,437,177 | 198,713 | 182,725 | 14,153,559
2007|03| 10,628,726 | 3,680,598 | 228,437 | 203,134 | 14,740,894
2007|04| 9,603,519 | 3,328,214 | 213,889 | 169,367 | 13,314,988
2007|05| 11,070,133 | 3,548,451 | 240,147 | 193,808 | 15,052,539
2007|06| 10,664,779 | 3,501,020 | 243,031 | 192,567 | 14,601,397
2007|07| 9,971,111 | 3,528,621 | 303,338 | 183,746 | 13,986,815
2007|08| 9,824,931 | 3,397,410 | 294,140 | 182,276 | 13,698,757
2007|09| 10,420,561 | 3,513,003 | 256,081 | 177,557 | 14,367,202
2007|10| 11,415,057 | 3,692,255 | 233,500 | 214,514 | 15,555,327
2007|11| 11,328,817 | 3,942,266 | 219,563 | 206,663 | 15,697,309
2007|12| 9,187,143 | 3,288,257 | 195,651 | 171,578 | 12,842,629

2007 | 124,821,832 | 42,127,251 | 2,841,124 | 2,279,330 | 172,069,537

SYSTEM BOARDINGS
DATE | BUS | SKYTRAIN | SEABUS | WEST COAST
EXPRESS | TOTAL
1989 | 153,978,678 | 25,477,985 | 3,972,435 | N.A. | 183,429,098
1990 | 141,496,658 | 27,667,954 | 4,352,958 | N.A. | 173,517,567
1991 | 148,328,142 | 28,924,538 | 4,311,518 | N.A. | 181,564,197
1992 | 150,820,413 | 30,261,957 | 4,295,541 | N.A. | 185,377,911
1993 | 154,769,577 | 30,472,846 | 4,159,800 | N.A. | 189,402,225
1994 | 161,684,884 | 34,250,784 | 4,353,390 | N.A. | 200,289,058
1995 | 168,366,182 | 37,540,745 | 4,722,449 | N.A. | 210,629,375
1996 | 175,913,752 | 41,703,920 | 5,392,798 | N.A. | 223,010,467
1997 | 176,034,258 | 41,861,441 | 5,417,162 | N.A. | 223,312,864
1998 | 178,685,040 | 42,246,133 | 5,092,913 | 1,780,990 | 227,805,076
1999 | 175,778,809 | 43,626,638 | 5,100,786 | 1,815,002 | 226,321,235
2000 | 175,998,634 | 46,296,343 | 5,471,997 | 1,926,621 | 229,693,595
2001 | 112,304,534 | 43,392,440 | 3,306,474 | 1,900,904 | 160,904,352
2002 | 167,063,252 | 52,043,280 | 4,712,530 | 1,929,041 | 225,748,103
2003 | 186,859,615 | 62,047,997 | 4,640,230 | 1,929,586 | 255,477,429
2004 | 201,765,884 | 65,003,235 | 4,853,643 | 2,033,988 | 273,656,750
2005 | 202,309,723 | 66,291,737 | 5,016,080 | 2,107,674 | 275,725,214
2006 | 205,831,812 | 69,456,900 | 5,193,171 | 2,286,111 | 282,767,994

2007|01| 16,977,528 | 5,297,830 | 403,025 | 223,774 | 22,902,157
2007|02| 18,496,688 | 6,095,531 | 370,951 | 203,028 | 25,166,199
2007|03| 17,869,822 | 6,096,655 | 427,469 | 225,704 | 24,619,650
2007|04| 16,157,047 | 5,504,150 | 412,748 | 188,185 | 22,262,131
2007|05| 19,428,325 | 6,046,356 | 458,146 | 215,342 | 26,148,169
2007|06| 19,768,558 | 6,267,994 | 466,547 | 213,963 | 26,717,062
2007|07| 17,720,029 | 6,055,378 | 592,940 | 204,162 | 24,572,509
2007|08| 16,925,207 | 5,621,986 | 571,141 | 202,529 | 23,320,863
2007|09| 17,298,079 | 5,747,584 | 473,927 | 197,285 | 23,716,874
2007|10| 19,118,602 | 6,195,697 | 438,035 | 238,349 | 25,990,683
2007|11| 19,152,863 | 6,618,458 | 401,569 | 229,626 | 26,402,516
2007|12| 15,948,256 | 5,665,221 | 384,511 | 190,642 | 22,188,630

2007 | 214,861,004 | 71,212,840 | 5,401,009 | 2,532,589 | 294,007,442

NOTES:
PASSENGER TRIPS counts riders on the system by mode where the fare was paid (i.e. number of system users).
SYSTEM BOARDINGS counts all riders using the system including transferees from other modes (i.e. number of trips).
2001 numbers decreased due to labour dispute.
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If you don't have these RTM doc saved:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5w1ztwjo1fl
http://www.mediafire.com/?nhngutamnin

And also this table, although the data is pretty old (Spring 2004), but it shows that the average trip on the 99 is just over half of the entire trip length. This tells us that most of the riders on the 99 gets on and off somewhere on Broadway.

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Found this PDF file for 98 B Line

http://www.itsbc.ca/pdf/98bline_brt_...tion_study.pdf
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Are there any stats for the #84 VCC Clark Stn\UBC?
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I was bored so I pull data out of translink's timetable in order to generate some stats:

10 Earliest starts:
Code:
403N	3:56a
351N	4:08a
701W	4:10a
601N	4:21a
041E	4:22a
351N	4:23a
010E	4:27a
403N	4:29a
791W	4:30a
502W	4:32a
10 Latest Finishes:
Code:
N9E	3:59x
N19E	4:03x
N10S	4:20x
N10N	4:27x
N19E	4:28x
N9E	4:29x
N10S	4:50x
N10N	4:57x
N10S	5:20x
N10N	5:27x
Longest trips, there are 29 trips that's are longer than 1.5 hours:
Code:
1:55	997W [9:27a, 10:27a]
1:42	997E [12:55p, 1:25p, 7:00p, 7:30p, 8:00p]
1:37	160E [4:09p]
1:37	502E [3:00p]
1:36	160E [4:39p]
1:34	017E [2:12p, 2:24p, 2:35p, 2:45p, 3:36p, 3:44p, 3:52p, 4:00p, 4:08p]
1:33	017E [2:56p, 3:06p, 3:16p, 3:26p, 4:16p, 4:24p, 4:32p]
1:31	017E [1:59p]
1:30	017E [1:36p, 1:48p]
Shortest trip is only 3 minutes, and there are 19 of them:
Code:
028N	[5:50x]
C36S	[5:33p]
C87W	[all 17 trips]
And there are 8 trips that are only 4 minutes long:
Code:
228S	[12:39x, 1:09x]
239W	[11:14p, 1:56x, 2:01x]
403N	[1:08x, 1:38x, 2:08x]
On a regular day, there are 12412 hours and 51 minutes of scheduled trips. The top 25 routes with the most services are:
Code:
#1	996	368 hours 26 minutes
#2	999	348 hours 49 minutes
#3	99	286 hours 12 minutes
#4	17	274 hours 23 minutes
#5	9	271 hours 54 minutes
#6	10	271 hours 6 minutes
#7	22	261 hours 34 minutes
#8	41	254 hours 10 minutes
#9	20	243 hours 37 minutes
#10	25	242 hours 42 minutes
#11	135	233 hours 18 minutes
#12	8	220 hours 42 minutes
#13	980	219 hours 14 minutes
#14	16	213 hours 16 minutes
#15	410	211 hours 51 minutes
#16	3	207 hours 39 minutes
#17	49	191 hours 46 minutes
#18	19	176 hours 28 minutes
#19	7	165 hours 26 minutes
#20	321	155 hours 58 minutes
#21	502	154 hours 21 minutes
#22	351	150 hours 48 minutes
#23	106	144 hours 35 minutes
#24	4	141 hours 56 minutes
#25	97	131 hours 15 minutes
Honorable mentions:
Code:
#28	239	120 hours 29 minutes	Top Northshore route
#31	701	118 hours 42 minutes	Top Ridge Meadows route
#35	160	102 hours 45 minutes	Top Tri-cities route (non B-Line)
#44	601	89 hours 1 minutes	Top South Delta route
#47	C38	81 hours 17 minutes	Top community shuttle route
#66	C23	52 hours 33 minutes	Second place community shuttle route
#122	998	25 hours 36 minutes	SeaBus
#125	997	24 hours 30 minutes	Westcoast Express
#175	N10	10 hours 2 minutes	Top nightbus route
Distribution of the top 50 routes (cut-off point is 78 hours 48 minutes):
Code:
3	SkyTrain
2	B-Line
44	conventional
1	community shuttle

21	Vancouver
6	Burnaby/New West [135, 106, 130, 144, 129, 123]
3	Tri-Cities [97, 160, C38]
5	Northshore [239, 240, 250, 210, 246]
4	Surrey [321, 351, 320, 319]
4	Richmond [410, 480, 401, 403]
1	Langley [502]
1	South Delta [601]
1	Ridge Meadows [701]
The non-NightBus and school special route with the least service:
Code:
#215	259	1 hour 58 minutes
#216	608	1 hour 54 minutes
#217	242	1 hour 52 minutes
#219	292	1 hour 22 minutes
#228	C90	0 hour 36 minutes
There are a total of 21633 scheduled trips per day in Metro Vancouver. The top 25 routes with most scheduled trips are:
Code:
#1	999	547 trips
#2	980	536 trips
#3	99	442 trips
#4	996	404 trips
#5	9	403 trips
#6	8	357 trips
#7	41	332 trips
#8	20	330 trips
#9	5	303 trips
#10	6	299 trips
#11	135	286 trips
#12	3	282 trips
#13	10	281 trips
#14	321	269 trips
#15T	130	263 trips
#15T	145	263 trips
#17	22	248 trips
#18	25	242 trips
#19	17	240 trips
#20	97	239 trips
#21	49	220 trips
#22	246	214 trips
#23	106	212 trips
#24	C38	203 trips
#25	320	202 trips
Notice that the only non-rail-based route in the top 5 are 9 and 99...

Again, honorable mentions:
Code:
#26	410	200 trips	Top Richmond route
#32	C21	184 trips	Second place community shuttle
#39	502	177 trips	Top Langley route
#45	701	146 trips	Top Ridge Meadows route
#46	351	144 trips	Top Hwy99 route.. I suppose..
#56T	998	128 trips	SeaBus
#63	601	118 trips	Top South Delta route
#191T	997	17 trips	West Coast Express
#197T	N10	13 trips	Top Nightbus route
The distribution of top 50 (cut-off was 133 trips):
Code:
3	SkyTrain
2	B-Line
42	conventional
3	community shuttle

24	Vancouver
7	Burnaby/New West [135, 130, 145, 106, 123, 144, 112]
3	Tri-Cities [97, C38, 169]
3	Northshore [246, 239, 240]
4	Surrey [321, 320, 319, 351]
4	Richmond [410, 403, 401, 402]
1	Langley [502]
0	South Delta
1	Ridge Meadows [701]
The routes that have the least numbers of runs is #292 (2 trips), follows by #242, #C90, #N24 (4 trips each), and #259 (5 trips).

The average trip time system-wide is 34 minutes and 26 seconds. The longest and shortest routes:
Code:
#1	997	1:26:28
#2	N9	1:17:00
#3	16	1:11:53
#4	341	1:10:15
#5	354	1:10:10
#6	160	1:10:03
#7	17	1:08:36
#8	352	1:07:43
#9	590	1:07:17
#10	7	1:06:37
	...	...
#223	C2	0:09:38
#224	608	0:09:30
#225	C88	0:09:00
#226	C90	0:09:00
#227	C22	0:09:00
#229	C6	0:07:37
#230	C40	0:07:36
#231	C20	0:07:30
#232	C86	0:07:30
#233	C87	0:05:25
The peak number of vehicles in service (actually carrying people, not including "not in service" or layover) are 1013, occurs at 4:51pm. The number of vehicles at different time of day:


The routes with the most vehicles:
Code:
Veh	Routes
===	=====
31	999
28	22
26	25, 99
24	10, 9
22	41, 135, 996
21	17, 49
20	20
19	8, 16, 410
16	502
15	3
14	7, 43, 48, 980
13	4, 19
12	106, 321, 401, 701
11	97, 130, 239, 351
10	129, 144, 160, 210, 240, 246, 320, 403
The top community shuttle is #C38, with 8 vehicles, follows by #C21 and #C23, both with 6. The top Nightbus route is #N10 and #N19, with 4 vehicles each.

The following routes have 1 bus running at the most, consider yourself lucky when you see them:
179, 256, 259, 391, 606, C2, C6, C10, C12, C19, C20, C22, C48, C49, C52, C60, C61, C64, C84, C88, C89, C90, C94, C99, N6

Note:
980 = Canada Line
996 = Millennium Line
997 = West Coast Express
998 = SeaBus
999 = Expo Line

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The all door loading on the #99. I wonder how much revenue is lost by people just using the other doors so they don't have to pay?
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nname... whoa! Talk about the motherlode! Where are you pulling those numbers from? Is it from a Translink Web Service?
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The all door loading on the #99. I wonder how much revenue is lost by people just using the other doors so they don't have to pay?
I don't think it is as high as one might think. Remember a majority of the passangers are the students with U-Pass and they have already paid.

I think the benefits of the all door boarding out way the chance that someone might not pay. If they had people only loading from the front on that route the service would be a disaster.
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I don't think it is as high as one might think. Remember a majority of the passangers are the students with U-Pass and they have already paid.

I think the benefits of the all door boarding out way the chance that someone might not pay. If they had people only loading from the front on that route the service would be a disaster.
The UBC bound passenger is actually a bit less than 50% of total 99-b riders.

The fare evasion should be similar to that of skytrain. Several time when my faresaver expired I didn't need to think but board on the 99-b in the rear door
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I must admit to having done the same thing the other day. Although once I got to Commericial-Broadway. I purchased a ticket. So in the end I paid for my ride.
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The peak number of vehicles in service (actually carrying people, not including "not in service" or layover) are 1003, occurs at 4:51pm. The number of vehicles at different time of day:
This surprises me. I, like most office stiffs, work till 5pm. It takes me a couple of minutes to leave the building and a few more minutes to get to the bus/skytrain.

i would of expected the most amount of buses around 5:15pm
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nname... whoa! Talk about the motherlode! Where are you pulling those numbers from? Is it from a Translink Web Service?
They're from the trip planner.

If someone is interested in the complete data: click here

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I think the benefits of the all door boarding out way the chance that someone might not pay. If they had people only loading from the front on that route the service would be a disaster.
I was riding a bus in Venice (Italy) recently, and they had large articulated buses with all-door boarding (as did Rome but I didn't ride one there). Anyway, there were ticket validating machines throughout the bus, so you could validate a ticket from the rear when you got on.

It wasn't enforced, so the system wasn't preventing a lot of fare evasion, but maybe there was some peer pressure lol.
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