noirish Los Angeles - Page 697

SoCal1954 · #**13921** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 9:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Brunswig Square, built in 1931 as the Brunswig Drug Co. Factory.

360 E. 2nd St.

Jesus E. Salgado http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2593

Does anyone have a vintage photograph when this was the drug factory? I haven't had any luck yet.
I want to see what the building looked like before the modern windows were added.
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I love the Art Deco style so much!!

With respect to this building, I am at a loss, as to why there are not at least a few old direct images, floating around the internet? You can find both photos and even some postcard images, for most of the Art Deco style buildings throughout the Southland; however, this one is really obscure.

I am sure they exist, but are sitting in a file, in a drawer, somewhere--e.g., the building contractor, who go the job for the updated version.

tovangar2 · #**13922** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 9:12 PM**

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tovangar2 · #**13923** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

That's a corner of the old Bank of Italy building (hard by our beloved City Hall).

Thx. I guess I just never focused on it before. Considering the footprint, I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did. I also got fooled by the plain back, so different from the other sides.
In the film it looks like it's sited in the center of Temple.

See? Where the heck is Temple? An illusion, I know, but it looks like the Bank of Italy totally fills in the space between City Hall & the Federal Courthouse:

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

below: This aerial clearly shows the proximity of the Bank of Italy building to City Hall.

LAPL

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past

View of intersection of Spring and Temple, showing (former) Bank of Italy building at lower right. Must be 1938-1939, as the old Post Office is gone, but the perimeter wall of the old Court House still stands.

eBay

-Scott

MichaelRyerson · #**13924** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

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Holden's strictly a single-breasted kind of guy. [MichaelRyerson]
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What's the difference between a single-breasted kind of guy and a double-breasted kind of guy ? It may be obvious for american noirishers but not at all for a frenchie like me.
Please, Michael or Tovangar, tell me all about it.

LOL, sorry Alvaro, didn't mean to be obtuse but was just joking around. Not to put too fine a point on it, generally speaking double-breasted suits (which were in-style in the late '40's) with their extra drape had the additional benefit of hiding an expanding waistline. Of course, many very fit men wore them but Holden by virtue of a life of rigorous exercise, good genes and smoking (ugh, I know, but there it is), always kept his waistline in check and never really needed the extra drape of a double-breasted suit.

ethereal_reality · #**13925** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 10:46 PM**

While driving down S. Wilton Place in the google-mobile, I looked east on 7th Street and noticed a rooftop sign in the distance.

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I turned and drove toward the sign. Finally I could make it out...ANCELLE. I have never heard of it. -hmmmm, interesting-

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view from the corner of 7th & Gramercy Drive

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built 1926

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There is also a second rooftop sign on the Gramercy Drive wing.

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google earth

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cinemascope55/6988541048/

Also on the Gramercy Drive side is this wonderful entrance.

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Above the gate ANCELLE is spelled out in neon.

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Peering through the gate one catches a glimpse of the lush courtyard and fountain.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cinemas...n/photostream/

...I'll leave you with this noirish image.

Jim McHugh http://www.arcspace.com/exhibitions/...lets-get-lost/

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tovangar2 · #**13926** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 11:41 PM**

Thank you e-r. Working neon. What a treat :-)

The "classy" apartment building in The Turning Point is Leland Bryant's "The Colonial House" (1930)
1416 Havenhurst, W Hollywood, just through the block from the Voltaire/Granville
on Crescent Heights.(I knew it must be around there somewhere): (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13470)

Cary Grant lived in Colonial House and it was Bette Davis' last home. It's on the National Register:
http://www.toplacondos.com/condo/bui...det.php?id=397
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/0...nial_house.php

Paramount/Youtube

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http://www.toplacondos.com/condo/bui...det.php?id=397

SoCal1954 · #**13927** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 12:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

While driving down S. Wilton Place in the google-mobile, I looked east on 7th Street and noticed a rooftop sign in the distance.

gsv

I turned and drove toward the sign. Finally I could make it out...ANCELLE. I have never heard of it. -hmmmm, interesting-

gsv

view from the corner of 7th & Gramercy Drive

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Well, you picked a great day to [drive around] SoCal--mid to upper 70's today, and very clear with bright sun!

This is a great 'gem' and so symbolic of SoCal in the 20's-30's.

And for those who live there today--it has great ratings!

There is a village called Ancelle, in the mountains of S/E France; I am sure there must be a nexus, to the person who developed this property, in the Roaring Twenties.

ethereal_reality · #**13928** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 1:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

The "classy" apartment building in The Turning Point is Leland Bryant's "Colonial House" 1416 Havenhurst, West Hollywood.

Paramount/Netflix

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That is a great discovery tovanger2! I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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ethereal_reality · #**13929** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 1:48 AM**

Earlier today I came across this photograph of the May Co. at http://www.yellowbullet.com/main/news.php
Traffic has never looked so good.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/main/news.php

By coincidence, Renzo Piano released his most recent plans for LACMA's Academy Theater today.

Piano's 'bubble' theater emerging from the north side of the 1939 May Co. building

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ass_sphere.php

cut-away view (smaller 'bubble' theaters inside as well)

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ass_sphere.php

Model-April 2013

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ass_sphere.php

Model showing the May Co.'s iconic 'stacked coins' facade with Renzo Piano's 'bubble' theater in the rear.

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ass_sphere.php

noir collides with the future-
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JScott · #**13930** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 2:19 AM**

*sigh*

Why do so many contemporary architects go for this "pieces missing" or "incomplete building" look?

And why don't the people who commission these architects have the cojones to just say "No!" to bad design?

The state of architecture in the 21st century depresses the hell out of me. I'd trade ten thousand of these Frank Gehry-types for just one Frank Lloyd Wright.

ethereal_reality · #**13931** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

At the fire ravaged real-life Stratford Apartments, we would be in a heavily commercial area and likely would see the Barbizon up the street on the right hand side.

The Hotel Barbizon at 6th and Westlake.

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very gritty.
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MichaelRyerson · #**13932** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The Hotel Barbizon at 6th and Westlake.

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very gritty.
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Her heyday has truly passed and now she sits in the hard sunlight looking for all the world like a glass of stale beer and a short, thick Chesterfield.

"Out of the apartment houses come women who should be young but have faces like stale beer; men with pulled-down hats and quick eyes that look the street over behind the cupped hand that shields the match flame; worn intellectuals with cigarette coughs and no money in the bank; fly cops with granite faces and unwavering eyes; cokies and coke peddlers; people who look like nothing in particular and know it, and once in a while even men that actually go to work. But they come out early, when the wide cracked sidewalks are empty and still have dew on them"

Raymond Chandler, The High Window

ethereal_reality · #**13933** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 4:31 PM**

I came across this interesting building on north Figueroa street.

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After a little research I found out this building was the 963 seat Arroyo Theater, 3236 N. Figueroa St.

detail

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There have been some recent improvements (compared to what it looked like several years ago)

2010

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/3480

2010

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/3480

I haven't been able to find a photograph when it was the Arroyo Theater. Even 'Cinema Treasures' lacks one.

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ethereal_reality · #**13934** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 4:39 PM**

snapshot found on ebay

Is that Hollywood High in the background?
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ethereal_reality · #**13935** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 4:58 PM**

126 Garland Avenue, May 29, 1980

John Humble http://library24.library.cornell.edu...~12~12&os=5400

Anyone know this apartment building?
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jg6544 · #**13936** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

By coincidence, Renzo Piano released his most recent plans for LACMA's Academy Theater today.

Piano's 'bubble' theater emerging from the north side of the 1939 May Co. building

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ass_sphere.php

I saw that and my thought was, it's going to be like an oven inside that dome in August unless they have the mother of all air conditioning systems to keep the place bearable. Has Mr. Piano ever spent a summer in L. A., I wonder?

ethereal_reality · #**13937** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 5:08 PM**

Downtown Los Angeles from the 600 block of Bixel Street, Feb. 8 1980

John Humble http://library24.library.cornell.edu...=5409&trs=5525

I wonder what the Jaguar is doing there? (or is it a Rolls?)
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tovangar2 · #**13938** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

That is a great discovery tovanger2! I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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Paramount/Youtube

This part of W Hollywood, like many neighborhoods, has a particular look. The closeness and configuration of the hills in the view above was another clue. I first searched a block down from the Voltaire/Granville and, when it wasn't there, tried a block west, where I found it right away (I wish every mystery building was so easy to find). I should have looked to begin with instead of bugging you guys about it.

I'm totally on board with Irving Gill's search for a regional architecture, but Bryant's fantasy-historic buildings are so gracious, generous and beautifully-appointed that I fall for them every time in spite of myself:

Condo interior, The Colonial House (1930):

http://www.toplacondos.com/condo/bui...det.php?id=397

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

"Out of the apartment houses come women who should be young but have faces like stale beer; men with pulled-down hats and quick eyes that look the street over behind the cupped hand that shields the match flame; worn intellectuals with cigarette coughs and no money in the bank; fly cops with granite faces and unwavering eyes; cokies and coke peddlers; people who look like nothing in particular and know it, and once in a while even men that actually go to work. But they come out early, when the wide cracked sidewalks are empty and still have dew on them"

Raymond Chandler, The High Window

Thx, you always pick the best quotes.