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Yes. The Empire Station project includes a direct connection to the PATH.
What could be the year of opening of this very important tunnel?
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What could be the year of opening of this very important tunnel?
don’t hold your breath!

the completion date of the whole of it is estimated to be 2038.
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What could be the year of opening of this very important tunnel?
That particular component is a part of the 15 Penn project. Presumably it would need to be complete by the opening of 15 Penn. Most likely it’s construction would occur during the construction of 15 Penn. AKA site 7, 15 Penn would be built in the first phase, along with station improvements.



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if its to be done in seven and a half years that means the penn hotel teardown will need to be very soon. looks like this year!
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if its to be done in seven and a half years that means the penn hotel teardown will need to be very soon. looks like this year!

No. The tower construction would likely take up to 4 years. Hotel demo could take a year or two. That hotel is not re-opening, but I doubt they would start any demo this year.

It’s interesting that 15 Penn would be the only tower projected in the first phase. But Vornado would also be focusing on building 350 Park in that timeframe.
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That particular component is a part of the 15 Penn project. Presumably it would need to be complete by the opening of 15 Penn. Most likely it’s construction would occur during the construction of 15 Penn. AKA site 7, 15 Penn would be built in the first phase, along with station improvements.



Thank you. Therefore there is an hope for 2028.
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No. The tower construction would likely take up to 4 years. Hotel demo could take a year or two. That hotel is not re-opening, but I doubt they would start any demo this year.

It’s interesting that 15 Penn would be the only tower projected in the first phase. But Vornado would also be focusing on building 350 Park in that timeframe.
???

the chart says start is second half of 2021 and completion second half of 2028.

thats seven and a half years.

maybe they are being optimistic and generous.
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6.


I hate it.
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???

the chart says start is second half of 2021 and completion second half of 2028.

thats seven and a half years.

maybe they are being optimistic and generous.

If you're talking about 15 Penn, that's 2022 to 2028. So my factors of rougtly 2 years of demo and 4 years of construction is correct. BTW, that chart isn't something handwritten in stone. 270 Park started demo in 2019 and will be complete in 2024 (although construction did start before demo is complete). But even factoring in an extra year, that would still only be six.
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I hate it.
I agree - too brutalist.
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Looks like an industrial structure plucked from an oil refinery. Only thing missing is some extra pipes and a gas flare.
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so they want this to be what you see when you walk out the front door of penn?

no.

i mean, i realize we are going to get a lot of bland glass boxes with empire (and hopefully a good one), but please just let them just be inoffensive instead of ugly.
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The Empire State Building, upon viewing this new modernist mess, burst out in uncontrollable laughter.
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