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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop
^^ I really wonder if maybe this kind of 'dumbed-down', 90s-ish design route wasn't even at all that 'necessary' from a NIMBY-pander perspective?
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It wasn't a necessary move as far as the neighborhood opposition is concerned; I think it was more of an appeal to Tunney to lock in his approval. Which is a shame, because the site deserves something much better.
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Originally Posted by gallo
Us skyscraperpagers can smell our own... As a local resident, a grocery in that location would be incredibly awesome as we have nothing within immediate waking distance except for the Walgreens on Sheffield. I would use it just about every day, as would my wife (and the thousands of other transit riders that cross the intersection every day.
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A grocer would be great, I agree, because ideally the density of grocers in a neighborhood should be such that there is one for every half-mile of travel distance. Of course, there is a needed level of population density to provide the customer base needed to support this density of stores, but the very building that this potential new grocer will be in helps head the trajectory of the neighborhood that way. Grocery trips, probably more so than any other shopping trips, are taken by automobile if only because the prospect of lugging two armfuls of bags more than 4 blocks is unthinkable to most people (and the American food shopping culture of less frequent trips with more purchases per trip is alive and well, leading to high total weight for the packages). If grocers were closely grouped enough, (one would hope that) the travel mode share for shopping trips would see an increase in the amount of walking (and maybe even promote a shopping style of more frequent trips with less purchases per trip).
The loading area for inventory deliveries
will create problems for Clark, but maybe that will induce a mode share shift to more walking too
. (The detriment to the 22 bus will be unfortunate, though.)
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Originally Posted by gallo
Say what you will about the neotraditional design, but if we can just get this scale of infill development, strong urban design and low parking ratios to replace the crap around Clark and Barry (and the drive-in bank @ Halsted and Belmont) we'd be golden...
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You know, I'm inclined to agree with this attitude, especially considering that developments like this one can be one criticism away from being tabled entirely, but there is nothing about the program for a building or its appearance that makes high-quality versions of both mutually exclusive. Chicago is so in need of developments like this that we may be too eager to allow for concessions, and we need to remember that this building will effectively be at the corner of Clark and Belmont forever. A better design costs nothing in this case, especially when it's simply a matter of Hirsch choosing a different option from the pool of 10 or more that he has likely already drawn up. He even said at the meeting last night that there was a design for an all-glass building. It's a pity that that will likely never be seen nor considered.