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I'm sorry but this makes absolutely no sense. Do you honestly believe Manhattan's per capita GDP is 420,000$ and Queens on the other hand is 35K?! I love and admire Manhattan as much as anyone but this must be a mistake.
Yes, this is the data. The 3rd option is GDP by County by Current Dollar Value.
https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-county

Remember this is not income but economic output.
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Hmm... It's surprising that there are 0 more GA in over 50 billion besides Fulton. I at least thought cobb or gwinnet could make it.
I had originally set out to go down to $20B but got lazy, but not before I got to.Georgia.

Cobb $44B
Gwinnett $43B
DeKalb $35B
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I had originally set out to go down to $20B but got lazy, but not before I got to.Georgia.

Cobb $44B
Gwinnett $43B
DeKalb $35B
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I'm sorry but this makes absolutely no sense. Do you honestly believe Manhattan's per capita GDP is 420,000$ and Queens on the other hand is 35K?! I love and admire Manhattan as much as anyone but this must be a mistake.
I guess if you just divide Manhattan's GDP by its population, but that's not accurately capturing the situation. You have about 1.67 million people living in Manhattan, but about 4.1 million people working on the island and producing that USD 690 billion. That math comes out to about USD 168k per capita, which makes a lot more sense than USD 420k per capita.
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People make the same error with crime rates and other data. It's not always about resident population.
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This makes sense though. Suffolk is just Boston, plus Winthrop, Revere, and Chelsea (all pure inner-ring bedroom cities). Middlesex has nearly double the population, and is home to almost the entire Boston massive life sciences / biotech sector, and the Rt 128 belt north of the city is home to lots the the area's tech. Boston proper is home to most the the region's finance and services industries.

Suffolk County is all of 58 sq miles. Middlesex is 818 sq miles. Dallas County, by comparison, is 873 sq miles - almost exactly the same size as Suffolk and Middlesex combined.

The most valuable commercial real estate on the East Coast outside of Manhattan is not in downtown Boston, but in Kendall Square in Cambridge.
Then look at Norfolk County, 400 sq miles with nearly 700,000 residents and home to some of the priciest real estate in Metro Boston. Residents in Norfolk commute to Middlesex and Suffolk.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2018, 6:23 AM
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Then look at Norfolk County, 400 sq miles with nearly 700,000 residents and home to some of the priciest real estate in Metro Boston. Residents in Norfolk commute to Middlesex and Suffolk.
I know, I am a Foxboro native. Both my parents worked their whole lives in Middlesex. Compare that to Bristol County, directly east / southeast of Norfolk; enough people there commute to Rhode Island to qualify the whole county as part of the Providence metro area. Even though Bristol County's northern border is less than 10 miles south of Boston's southern border (Easton).
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It's incredible to see how New York economy is centered on Manhattan. The small 23 sq mi island produces nearly 40% of New York MSA's GDP.
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Oakland, MI $108.836 Billion
One of these is clearly unlike the others.
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Another update

2015 County GDP $20B+
Los Angeles, CA $691.948 Billion
New York, NY $690.040 Billion
Harris, TX $395.784 Billion
Cook, IL $382.626 Billion
King, WA $262.665 Billion

Santa Clara, CA $262.053 Billion
Orange, CA $260.660 Billion
Dallas, TX $245.923 Billion
Maricopa, AZ $215.381 Billion
San Diego, CA $214.056 Billion

Fulton, GA $157.352 Billion
San Francisco, CA $154.176 Billion
Middlesex, MA $147.992 Billion
Miami-Dade, FL $141.734 Billion
Suffolk, MA $135.075 Billion

Hennepin, MN $134.207 Billion
Washington, DC $125.434 Billion
Alameda, CA $112.676 Billion
Philadelphia, PA $110.339 Billion
Oakland, MI $108.836 Billion

Tarrant, TX $108.496 Billion
Mecklenburg, NC $108.173 Billion
Clark, NV $104.761 Billion
Bexar, TX $101.462 Billion
Fairfax, VA $100.218 Billion

San Mateo, CA $99.019 Billion
Cuyahoga, OH $97.421 Billion
Broward, FL $96.519 Billion
Travis, TX $95.123 Billion
Fairfield, CT $93.957 Billion

Montgomery, MD $91.701 Billion
Franklin, OH $91.683 Billion
Nassau, NY $90.762 Billion
Orange, FL $89.817 Billion
Allegheny, PA $89.047 Billion

Marion, IN $88.508 Billion
DuPage, IL $87.146 Billion
Wayne, MI $87.017 Billion
Suffolk, NY $84.761 Billion
Montgomery, PA $81.404 Billion

Sacramento, CA $80.956 Billion
Queens, NY $80.882 Billion
Hartford, CT $79.802 Billion
Salt Lake, UT $79.721 Billion
St Louis, MO $78.587 Billion

Hillsborough, FL $77.093 Billion
Palm Beach, FL $76.866 Billion
Westchester, NY $75.894 Billion
Denver, CO $75.738 Billion
San Bernardino, CA $74.457 Billion

Hamilton, OH $73.204 Billion
Contra Costa $72.356 Billion
Riverside, CA $71.921 Billion
Bergen, NJ $68.910 Billion
Kings, NY $68.430 Billion

Wake, NC $67.768 Billion
Honolulu, HI $64.696 Billion
Shelby, TN $63.196 Billion
Lake, IL $64.208 Billion
Davidson, TN $61.728 Billion

Middlesex, NJ $60.757 Billion
Duval, FL $60.146 Billion
Milwaukee, WI $56.860 Billion
Morris, NJ $55.713 Billion
Collin, TX $55.558 Billion

Oklahoma, OK $54.586 Billion
Jeffersom, KY $53.082 Billion
Essex, NJ $52.975 Billion
Ventura, CA $52.597 Billion
Erie, NY $51.589 Billion

Norfolk, MA $50.941 Billion
Tulsa, OK $50.334 Billion
Balitmore, MD $49.403 Billion
New Castle, DE $49.375 Billion
Jackson, MO $46.585 Billion

New Haven, CT $45.142 Billion
Monroe, NY $44.497 Billion
Johnson, KS $44.483 Billion
Baltimore(City), MD $44.334 Billion
Anne Arundel, MD $44.269 Billion

Cobb, GA $44.138 Billion
Pinellas, FL $44.125 Billion
Gwinnett, GA $43.473 Billion
Dane, WI $43.394 Billion
Arapahoe, CO $43.330 Billion

Washington, OR $43.040 Billion
Douglas, NE $43.024 Billion
Chester, PA $42.967 Billion
Jefferson, AL $42.641 Billion
Polk, IA $42.225 Billion

Kern, CA $42.087 Billion
Fresno, CA $40.842 Billion
Durham, NC $39.710 Billion
Kent, MI $39.705 Billion
Essex, MA $39.673 Billion

Ramsey, MN $39.320 Billion
Somerset, NJ $39.316 Billion
Prince George's, MD $38.782 Billion
Union, NJ $38.320 Billion
Arlington, VA $38.277 Billion

Pima, AZ $37.022 Billion
Snohomish, WA $36.838 Billion
Bernalillo, NM $35.651 Billion
Macomb, MI $35.254 Billion
DeKalb, GA $35.110 Billion

Providence, RI $34.338 Billion
Pierce, WA $34.050 Billion
Guilford, NC $33.832 Billion
East Baton Rouge, LA $33.515 Billion
Monmouth, NJ $32.766 Billion

Bronx, NY $31.177 Billion
St Louis(City), MO $31.058 Billion
Bucks, PA $30.862 Billion
El Paso, CO $30.633 Billion
Waukesha, WI $30.218 Billion

Pulaski, AR $29.087 Billion
Delaware, PA $28.937 Billion
Summit, OH $28.494 Billion
Albany, NY $28.447 Billion
Onondaga, NY $28.411 Billion

El Paso, TX $28.123 Billion
Will, IL $28.042 Billion
Greenville, SC $27.953 Billion
Denton, TX $27.820 Billion
Charleston, SC $27.578 Billion

Sedgwick, KS $27.331 Billion
Virginia Beach, VA $26.763 Billion
Henrico, VA $26.571 Billion
San Joaquin, CA $26.492 Billion
Lancaster, PA $26.274 Billion

Jefferson, CO $26.043 Billion
Montgomery, OH $26.025 Billion
Hillsborough, NH $26.005 Billion
Sonoma, CA $25.323 Billion
Knox, TN $25.144 Billion

Lucas, OH $25.005 Billion
Kane, IL $24.344 Billion
Worcester, MA $24.321 Billion
Lehigh, PA $24.320 Billion
Anchorage, AK $24.240 Billion

Loudoun, VA $24.236 Billion
Dakota, MN $24.106 Billion
Ada, ID $24.060 Billion
Boulder, CO $24.023 Billion
Washoe, NV $24.013 Billion

Lee, FL $23.806 Billion
Howard, MD $23.643 Billion
Hamilton, TN $23.511 Billion
Montgomery, MD $23.451 Billion
Richland, SC $23.401 Billion

Jefferson, TX $23.039 Billion
Midland, TX $22.959 Billion
Norfolk, VA $22.852 Billion
Forsyth, NC $22.792 Billion
Orleans, LA $22.748 Billion

Camden, NJ $22.728 Billion
Madison, AL $22.603 Billion
Dauphin, PA $22.548 Billion
Jefferson, LA $21.911 Billion
Monterey, CA $21.836 Billion

Lake, IN $21.821 Billion
Des Moines, IA $21.677 Billion
Adams, CO $21.590 Billion
Washtenaw, MI $21.506 Billion
Fort Bend, TX $21.303 Billion

Solano, CA $21.213 Billion
Williamson, TX $21.135 Billion
Marin, CA $21.128 Billion
Ocean, NJ $20.932 Billion

Rockland, NY $20.909 Billion
Hampden, MA $20.830 Billion
Cumberland, ME $20.821 Billion
Fayette, KY $20.717 Billion
Spokane, WA $20.689 Billion
Neuces, TX $20.594 Billion

Utah, UT $20.508 Billion
Richmond, VA $20.504 Billion
Brevard, FL $20.453 Billion
Placer, CA $20.215 Billion
Passaic, NJ $20.165 Billion

Stanislaus, CA $20.104 Billion
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It's incredible to see how New York economy is centered on Manhattan. The small 23 sq mi island produces nearly 40% of New York MSA's GDP.
True, though measuring by MSA is a bit misleading because the second most important regional corporate/finance center is outside the MSA (Fairfield County, CT).

Almost every major regional corporation or financial firm not HQ in Manhattan is HQ around Stamford/Greenwich, CT. Tons of hedge funds (including world's largest), UBS, RBS, etc. And those are generally high paying jobs.
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Detroit is an eye-opener too. Everyone knows the region is decentralized and sprawled, but I bet most didn't know that Oakland County (suburban favored quarter) has a far bigger economy than Wayne County (Detroit, Ford, GM, and most suppliers).

Wayne is about 50% more populous than Oakland, but Oakland economy is 20-25% bigger.
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I know, I am a Foxboro native. Both my parents worked their whole lives in Middlesex. Compare that to Bristol County, directly east / southeast of Norfolk; enough people there commute to Rhode Island to qualify the whole county as part of the Providence metro area. Even though Bristol County's northern border is less than 10 miles south of Boston's southern border (Easton).
And Bristol County is much more affordable and has places like Fall River that are relatively cheap compared to Norfolk.

I've lived in Norfolk and Suffolk. Have family in Middlesex. Just sold a 3/2 in Suffolk [Boston].
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Philadelphia Metro Area Rankings

Philadelphia, PA $110.339 Billion
Montgomery, PA $81.404 Billion
Chester, PA $42.967 Billion
Bucks, PA $30.862 Billion
Delaware, PA $28.937 Billion
Camden, NJ $22.728 Billion
Was honestly surprised to see my county (Camden) qualify for the list.
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Oakland (Alameda) > Philadelphia. THAT shoots down some stereotypes.
No it doesn't.

Alameda County - Berkeley, Emeryville, Pleasanton, Oakland, Fremont etc



Philadelphia County - Philadelphia



Oakland is a joke compared to Phila. Not to mention Alameda county has 100k more people.

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Cook, IL $382.626 Billion
DuPage, IL $87.146 Billion
Lake, IL $64.208 Billion
DeKalb, IL $35.714 Billion
Will, IL $28.042 Billion
Kane, IL $24.344 Billion
Lake, IN $21.821 Billion
i cannot for the life of me figure out how/why dekalb county has a higher GDP than will, kane, or lake (IN) counties in chicagoland.

dekalb county is literally 600 sq. miles of corn farms with Northern Illinois University in the middle of it. that's it, there's nothing else out there. it's so far out in corn country that sprawl hasn't even reached it yet. total population for the entire county is ~100,000.

this is a truly bewildering stat. i have to believe that a mistake has been made.
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i cannot for the life of me figure out how/why dekalb county has a higher GDP than will, kane, or lake (IN) counties in chicagoland.

dekalb county is literally 600 sq. miles of corn farms with Northern Illinois University in the middle of it. that's it, there's nothing else out there. it's so far out in corn country that sprawl hasn't even reached it yet. total population for the entire county is ~100,000.

this is a truly bewildering stat. i have to believe that a mistake has been made.
You are right. Dekalb is $3.571 Billion

Thanks for catching that, Ive changed it in my list.
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You are right. Dekalb is $3.571 Billion
ah, ok. that makes a billion times more sense.

i was just like "how in the fuck does 600 sq. miles of corn farms produce a GDP of $35B!?!"



so chicagoland's $20B+ counties look like this:

Cook, IL $382.626 Billion
DuPage, IL $87.146 Billion
Lake, IL $64.208 Billion
Will, IL $28.042 Billion
Kane, IL $24.344 Billion
Lake, IN $21.821 Billion

it really shows the northern bias of the metro area. lake (IL) and will counties have roughly the same population (~700,000) and are at the opposite polar ends of chicagoland, but lake county comes in with a GDP 2.3x higher.
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No it doesn't.

Alameda County - Berkeley, Emeryville, Pleasanton, Oakland, Fremont etc



Philadelphia County - Philadelphia


Yeah I didnt quite get that either. Being from The City, he was probably surprised to see the East Bay rank so highly seeing as how intensely they look down on Oakland. LOL.

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Oakland is a joke compared to Phila. Not to mention Alameda county has 100k more people.
Oakland is actually quite nice and Alameda County only recently surpassed Philadelphia in population. I reckon AC will probably extend it's lead from here on out.
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