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Originally Posted by Londonee
Look, I don't know your demographic situation - your income - your housing - if you have kids - but my greener Pasteurs comment to you wasn't really all that tongue and cheek...for a lot of people that the city should be falling head over heels to keep (middle and upper middle class families) they do leave literally for that reason. So I do think you are in a minority, yes.
I'm almost 40 now - have 2 kids - and almost every one of my friends, my age, is leaving or has left - and these are high income earners who just get a bit tired of the QOL stuff without any sense of relief. It's a bummer.
I live in like a 6 block square 'hood of urban utopia - that's expensive - so staying is easy for me and my family. My kids don't walk past weeded lots, or along trash strewn streets, or underneath eye sores, power lines or past code violations. But it really shouldn't be this way. It shouldn't just be 6 square blocks of Fitler and Rittenhouse and Society Hill and parts of Old City. It shouldn't be this exclusive to have a great QOL for a broader swath of town, especially at the prices and cost of greater CC 'hoods.
Just out of curiosity, have you lived in any other city (like, real city)?
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Your friends left because of litter and power lines and not for better schools and a desire for more space which is far more affordable in the suburbs? Really?!?
I can understand getting annoyed by trash or powerlines or whatever (well not really in the case of powerlines, but whatever, I can fathom it,) but the idea that these are the primary reasons people are leaving the city boggles my mind. Especially considering, and correct me if I'm wrong because I'm far from a Philadelphia suburbs expert, but don't most philly suburbs have overhead lines too?
So yea i don't know, maybe I'm living in a "not caring about powerlines bubble," but I've never heard anyone even mention it as an issue outside of this website. And while I've definitely heard people complain that Philly is dirty, never knew someone who cited it as a primary reason for leaving town. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but the idea that these are the main reasons your friends left the city is wild to me. Lol that you'd even put overhead powerless as a significant negative to someone's quality of life... Lol wow. Again, I'll believe you, but it blows my mind that this is something people care so much about.
I lived in New York for two years and Madrid for 6 months. So no, I've mostly lived in Philly my whole life. But I've never been in New york and thought it felt cleaner than Philly overall and never noticed or cared that the powerlines are apparently underground there. Madrid definitely seemed like a clean city, which was nice. Never noticed or cared what was going on with their powerlines though i assume they're underground.