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Old Posted Apr 30, 2024, 7:43 PM
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Here's a OOAK (one of a kind) snapshot of downtown Eagle Rock. (1920?)



Currently on eBay

I don't recall seeing the bandstand(?) and flagpole in the middle of the street*.

*The small town I grew up in also had a bandstand in the middle of the Main Street. (now IL RT. 49)
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2024, 7:53 PM
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I just realized the same eBay seller also has this snapsnap listed on eBay.


Currently on eBay

If you look closely I think someone might be up there.

I didn't know Eagle Rock had their very own 'Hollywood' sign. (except it says Eagle Rock )...So where was this located?


We might have covered this before but I don't remember.
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The business center at Eagle Rock and Colorado Boulevards had continued to grow in 1927 with the construction of the three story Ritchy Hardware building on Caspar, and the post World War I addition of a trolley waiting area and flag pole in the center of the intersection, dubbed the "Merrie Go Round”. The concrete structure became a great obstacle to increased auto traffic and was removed in the mid-thirties perhaps embodying a shift of priorities from rail to automotive transit. (ERVHS)



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This detail from a panoramic view shot in February 1923 shows the Eagle Rock sign in the upper left. This item quoted from the Eagle Rock Sentinel in 1922 tells all we know about the sign. “About the last of October, the name of Eagle Rock can be seen as a pillar of fire by night near the summit-of Eagle Mountain, officially named by the Booster Club.” said an article of The Sentinel under date of September 28, 1922. “The short range of heights directly north of the city is a ridge of the Verdugo Hills. It’s now officially Eagle Mountain. The contract to construct Eagle Rock’s new advertising sign has been let by the Chamber of Commerce to the electric sign factory of Los Angeles. Funds to the amount of $800 was raised by public subscription to defray expenses of this illumination.” It was no longer there in the panorama shot in 1924. (unknown-ERVHS)


The intersection at the lower-right is Ellenwood Dr. and Colorado Blvd.


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This closeup of the sign appeared on ebay

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I love the older gentleman standing in the 0...I wonder how difficult it was for him to reach the sign.
.Does anyone know if there was a road nearby? (I mean, the sign builders had to get the LETTERS up there somehow) . .and I don't think they used a helicopter.

It took me awhile to find the sign in the larger photograph.
If anyone else had the same problem here it is circled and cropped.

cropped

Thanks again for your help, Mackerm. it's much appreciated.


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While we're in the area and discussing hilltop signs. (and since I already had these photos uploaded on imageshack )



Last month when I happened upon this old photo-album on eBay I was surprised that I didn't remember (or never knew about) the rather tasteful Art Deco-esque 'Tower of Legands at Forest Lawn, Glendale.


Here's a closer look at the Tower of Legends taken in 1929.


eBay (I've enlarged the photo / I just noticed the car)

It turns out, the reason I don't remember it is because it was TORN DOWN in 1948 to make way for the less-than-tasteful Hall of The Crucifixion-Resurrection built in 1951
to house the two Gi-normous paintings on the life of Christ.

I just found this:.."The Tower of Legends was built in 1924 to disguise a water tower and was torn down on April 2, 1948."..SDSU


Wait there's more!

The album also included a couple of amazing snapshots taken from behind the Forest Lawn sign. (or one of the signs, anyway) I don't know how many signs Forest Lawn had back in 1929.










These photgraphs have never been seen before except by the family who owned them.

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LAPL

This was the only photo showing the big Forest Lawn Memorial Park signs I could quickly find on Calisphere. They pretty much flattened that whole hilltop.


Google Books The American City Magazine

UPDATE: I guess ER knew what he was talking about when he suggested the possibility of multiple Forest Lawn signs. This 1926 aerial shows two.

Then again, the Tower of Legends has been discussed here as early as 2012. Or is it Tower of Legions?

An even better shot of the two signs.


This sign is all on one line.

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THE PALMYRA, January 1911, Los Angeles, Cal



Here's an interesting snapshot recently listed on eBay.


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A somewhat closer look.



Does anyone know where the Palmyra was located?


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L.A. City Directory 1911 edition lists "Palmyra The (fur rms)" at 831 S. Flower St., e_r.

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I think I found a survivor in the Eagle Rock picture! 2199 Colorado Blvd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wJVyW7kKTdBXAAvD7
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L.A. City Directory 1911 edition lists "Palmyra The (fur rms)" at 831 S. Flower St., e_r.
Thanks for that photo, e_r, and thanks for putting an address to that name, HH.

Here are photos and info on that building from a previous post.

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Thanks so much HenryHuntington and Flyingwedge.



I happened upon this rare cabinet card last night on eBay.

Has anyone heard of the ROMA HOTEL?..We're talking the 1880s!



And the reverse:




Let's take a closer look at this astonishing photograph.


eBay now I can't find it again / perhaps it sold(?)

Ga-Zowie!







I found three listings -and two different addresses- in the LA directories.

I located this one first.


LAPL


Luckily this next entry had a more specific address.


LAPL


The hotel appears to have moved to a different location by 1887.


LAPL


I don't think it's possible (even for you wonderful sleuths) to figure out if the photograph is of the Alameda Street location or the N. Los Angeles Street location.

Never-the-less, . . .try to figure it out, minions!

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LA Times, 12/10/1887

e_r, the street in front of the hotel in the picture is flat. The grade of the street in front of the hotel, according to the above, is "quite steep." The steep one is the one on Alameda (see above); thus, the pic would appear to be the Roma on North Los Angeles Street.
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Not to mention, though I shall, that Los Angeles St. had a horsecar line, while Alameda St. carried the SP standard-gauge steam railroad southward to San Pedro. Odinthor has closed yet another case!
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Thanks so much HenryHuntington and [B]Flyingwedge[/
I happened upon this rare cabinet card last night on eBay.

Has anyone heard of the ROMA HOTEL?..We're talking the 1880s!



And the reverse:



I found three listings -and two different addresses- in the LA directories.

I located this one first.


LAPL


Luckily this next entry had a more specific address.


LAPL


The hotel appears to have moved to a different location by 1887.


LAPL


I don't think it's possible (even for you wonderful sleuths) to figure out if the photograph is of the Alameda Street location or the N. Los Angeles Street location.

Never-the-less, try to figure it out, minions!

You know I love you.
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The Kodak model 1 roll film camera was introduced in 1888. It came preloaded with film that took 100 round images. So my guess is that it was the Los Angeles Street address.

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Add re: Roma Hotel proprietor Giuseppe Roattino, here he is in the 1892 voter rolls....




Note his residence on Kuhrts St. (it's now part of N. Main St.), the street was named for Jacob Kuhrts, city council president and chief of the volunteer fire dept.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Kuhrts
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When the city's address renumbering took place, the Roma Hotel on Alameda acquired the following address: 1009 N. Alameda. That's where Philippe's is.

The Roma Hotel's site on North Los Angeles St., 108-110, nearly kept the same address in the new address numbering: 114 North Los Angeles; but the business there after the Roma was gone was one Benjamin Hayman, Carriages & Wagons.


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Let's take a closer look at this astonishing photograph.


I think the photo shows the Roma Hotel on Alameda, not the one on North Los Angeles.

In the photo, from right to left, we have what looks like a three-story brick building, a scattering of small, one-story buildings, and then
the Roma. We also see these on the map below. Additionally, notice where the curb is directly behind the guy in the carriage? If you
follow the line of that curb down toward the Roma, it appears that the Roma's balcony sticks out into the street, like it does here at
the lower left:



1894 Sanborn Map @ Library of Congress
[Note: Alameda is at the bottom, Upper Main (now North Spring) is at the top, and Ord runs along the left edge.]


Here are Alameda, Upper Main, and Ord (at the time called Walters) in 1888, with the Old Roma Hotel at 611 N. Alameda, again with the
balcony sticking out into the street but with no three-story building, brick or otherwise, to its north:



1888 Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


For whatever reason, the 1888 Sanborn shows 108-110 N. Los Angeles Street as "Italian" Furnished Rooms, not as the Roma Hotel:



1888 Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's where Giuseppe said arrivederci to the Roma:



July 21, 1887, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com

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re: The Roma Hotel.

Thanks odinthor, HenryHuntington, WS1911, riichkay and Flyingwedge for your excellent sleuthing!
I'll put my whip away. (for the time being)

So . .um . . . should we VOTE? Alameda Street or N. Los Angeles Street.

update:

I just heard from odinthor and he agrees with Flyingwedge that the location is probably Alameda Street.


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I think I found a survivor in the Eagle Rock picture! 2199 Colorado Blvd


https://maps.app.goo.gl/wJVyW7kKTdBXAAvD7
Thanks Grandpa Dan and welcome to noirish Los Angeles.


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That billboard! Heh! It does get your attention.
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I've been trying to get on NLA all day but it kept saying "server busy". This has been happening alot lately. I hope Skyscraperpage fixes the problem behore we all get discouraged.


Guess what noirishers: I have a mystery location that needs to be solved.

Here's how it's listed on eBay.

Van Fleet & Durkee 427 Shell gas station S California Los Angeles ? visible pump....< - - - - Note the question mark behind Los Angeles.


eBay

We have seen other Van Fleet & Durkee sevice stations on NLA but I don't believe we have seen this particular one. ..I initially thought that was a plowed field in the distance but it's the roof of a building.





I think a sign down the street might says Billiards.


detail




You can go HERE if you would like to see the Van Fleet and Durkee service station #137 at West 7th Street and South Park View Street, Los Angeles.
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