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Old Posted Oct 6, 2007, 10:03 PM
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Cool nighttime construction pics! Lookin' good!
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how tall is that dorm building going to be... I thought it was going to be 12 but I count 14 already...
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how tall is that dorm building going to be... I thought it was going to be 12 but I count 14 already...
I count 13 floors. Thats what its floor count is supposed to be. But, its going to be something like 14 floors in height with its glass crown thingy. [ lol 'thingy'...what a great technical description]

Check out the rendering, looks like the plan may have changed some

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ndorms1ch3.jpg

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Old Posted Oct 7, 2007, 5:37 PM
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no floor 13!!
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Isn't this some form of darwinism?


Construction worker falls to his death at Cronkite School site
Nikki Renner and Jahna Berry
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 9, 2007 03:01 PM

An ironworker fell to his death Tuesday morning while working on Arizona State University's $71 million journalism school building in downtown Phoenix.

Ian Delmar, 21, fell from the seventh floor - what is now the top of the building - 80 feet down an air conditioning shaft of the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication building around 9 a.m., Phoenix Fire Spokeswoman Stacey Derge said.

The worker was taken to St. Joesph's Hospital and pronounced dead shortly after he arrived.





Around 8 a.m. a crew from Tempe's Top Flite Construction Inc. was stacking steel so that workers could build an enclosure for the mechanical equipment that will eventually go on the top of the building.

Delmar was walking backward carrying an I-beam when he kicked a piece of plywood, marked with warning signs, out of the way, Phoenix Fire spokesman Victor Rangel said. The plywood was covering the opening of the AC shaft. Delmar took a step and fell into the hole.

After he hit the ground, Delmar was not breathing and had fractures on both arms. There were also multiple internal injuries and head trauma, Rangel said.

Officers tried to resuscitate Delmar on the scene and later on the way to the hospital. Sundt Construction Inc. is building the Cronkite school, which is near First and Filmore streets.

“With all the construction that's going on here in the city, it's a common thing,” Rangel said. “It's very unfortunate when it does happen.”

Those shafts are usually covered and marked, so safety investigators are looking into what happened, Charlie Boyd, spokesman of Sundt Construction, Inc., said. Boyd is the general contractor for the entire project.

“It was a very tragic accident,” Boyd said.

Delmar was an employee of Top Flite Construction Inc., a firm that was hired by subcontractor Schuff Steel Co. to handle steel erection work on the site, Boyd said.

Top Flite's officials declined to comment.

Sundt halted construction on Tuesday, but planned to resume work on Thursday. Sundt plans to provide grief counselors and a fire department chaplain when crews return to work on Thursday morning.

The building is scheduled to open fall 2008 and will house the journalism school as well as Eight/KAET.

Sundt hasn't had a fatal employee accident in nearly two decades, and it's been several years since a subcontractor's worker died at a Sundt project, Boyd said.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2007, 11:16 PM
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Isn't this some form of darwinism?
I don't wanna belittle the guy's death, but I said the same thing to someone when I read it.
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I don't wanna belittle the guy's death, but I said the same thing to someone when I read it.
Horrible post.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 3:36 AM
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No, it's not--he was walking backwards. If he kicked the plywood while shuffling his feet while holding the I-bar, it's not social darwinism, it's a lawsuit with good merit. The warning signs don't do any good if your back is turned to them. If he's dead because his buddy or somebody managing the situation wasn't keeping an eye out for him then there's neglect. I mean, I'm guessing somebody had to have been walking forward holding the I-beam with him and didn't see it as well.
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"Those shafts are usually covered and marked, so safety investigators are looking into what happened....."

If usually covered and marked but this shaft wasn't covered, I can't see how there won't be a lawsuit for negligence.
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No, it's not--he was walking backwards. If he kicked the plywood while shuffling his feet while holding the I-bar, it's not social darwinism, it's a lawsuit with good merit.
Unsafe work habits. A lawsuit wont hold up because any decent judge will toss a case out immediately where a worker was not working in a safe way. Its common sense, when working in a dangerous place, keep your eyes open for problems. If you can't see where you are going, get somoene to help you so that you are both aware of dangers.

there is no argument for the man, he fucked up. It's unfortunate, and I hope his family does well getting through it, but he still fucked up.
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If I recall correctly there was also a death during the construction of Chase Field/BOB. A worker fell during the construction of the roof. Just recently a worker was nearly crushed when a wall collapsed during the demolition of the Phoenix Convention center, last week a worker fell atop the Sheraton suffering serve injuries and I believe there was also a falling death during the construction of the Cardinals stadium. I guess the point this type of construction is dangerous and it comes with the territory.

By the way, if there were any doubts both towers of the ASU Dorms are indeed under construction at the same time. I'm wondering if maybe because of the increased attendance they decided to jump start the second building.
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That's good news... Phasing the dorms would have sucked, and potentially held back attendance.
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Have you ever been within a hundred feet of a construction site? Safety, even for steel subs, tends to be perceived as a nuisance. "Get someone to help you" sounds like an obvious solution, but it's not that easy when you've been assigned a simple task and all of your co-workers are busy. Could the worker have avoided the accident? Of course! Does that mean Sundt will be completely absolved of all legal liability? Don't bet on it.
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That's good news... Phasing the dorms would have sucked, and potentially held back attendance.
I'm guessing one of the main reasons they are hurrying up on the second tower also has to do with construction noise. I know it's been a big complaint and I imagine it would be awful to have a dorm that's 50' away from another tower being built.
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It's getting there. All 13 floors are complete on one building, and it seems there will be a 14th (mechanical?) floor. And for the record, there are 13 physical floors.



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^Very long building, and a very short building for a 14-floor tower (probably with the low celing heights). In anycase, it would be awesome to live on top of the 13th floor as a student facing south...killer Downtown Phoenix views!

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Old Posted Oct 23, 2007, 6:09 PM
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The Cronkite School is gaining some height...about two floors worth with their final floor, the one that they mentioned would have 20' ceiling. Good to see.

http://cronkitebuilding.asu.edu/
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2007, 9:08 PM
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Great shot, HX Guy. Thanks for the update!
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How did you get that shot? Helicopter?
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