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Old Posted Nov 9, 2022, 3:13 AM
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Drawings of the same building by different artists

When there are multiple diagram entries of the same tower by different artists, how does Skyscraperpage determine which one will be the main one?

For example, the main Willis (Sears) Tower drawing that appears when you search the diagrams is by Koops65, but there are several other entries. How does the system decide which diagram to display?

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2022, 8:33 AM
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For what i see they put as primary the latest drawing submitted (only if it have a good quality)
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2022, 7:51 PM
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Bobbywest ... the criteria of Dylan Leblanc, owner, when he approves is, the latest upload, the main which goes as primary. if has a top quality among others, but if is a poor one from a newer illustrator, he choses the best he thinks which represents the real thing, or closest in good details, colours and shapes. Most those secondaries drawing are from illustrators since years do not appear in page anymore, but it was kept. Koops is a canadian active guy and good illustrator, so his drawing updated went as main primary.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2022, 7:59 PM
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For example ... The most Beautiful and Interesting Design of Structure Building in World until today and from all Eras is the Bank of China in Hong Kong. Ry made a more recent drawing, but it is not in good quality details, anyway Dylan was tolerant and accepted in his website, but Saturspace, a China Illustrator since long is not more active, but her drawing was better, more precise in all details, so he kept her drawing as first. Hope helped. There are some Structures, do not agree this decision, but is a matter of what taste he think is best. it is subjective his own criteria, but he is the owner of site, so he decides what his best for his hobby and himself. We do not have a word in this discussion, and we must accept his decisions. To be honest, think for most structures this have been working
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2022, 1:04 AM
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For example ... The most Beautiful and Interesting Design of Structure Building in World until today and from all Eras is the Bank of China in Hong Kong. Ry made a more recent drawing, but it is not in good quality details, anyway Dylan was tolerant and accepted in his website, but Saturspace, a China Illustrator since long is not more active, but her drawing was better, more precise in all details, so he kept her drawing as first. Hope helped. There are some Structures, do not agree this decision, but is a matter of what taste he think is best. it is subjective his own criteria, but he is the owner of site, so he decides what his best for his hobby and himself. We do not have a word in this discussion, and we must accept his decisions. To be honest, think for most structures this have been working
Thank you for the explanation. I wasn’t sure if it was an algorithm or whether it was chosen by someone to be the main diagram. That makes sense now and I think the system has been working well. It was more out of curiosity and me trying to understand how the system works now that I’ve just gotten into drawing diagrams.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2022, 5:54 PM
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Isn't it Dylan's decision?
I don't know...
There are times when I'm sad (Haeundae I PARK)
but there's nothing I can do.
Monopolizing the main diagram is not good for diversity.
I think people who draw will be motivated when their paintings appear on the main page.
Therefore, I respect his choice.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2022, 11:21 AM
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yeah Etesia ... can understand you

for me the :

1. Steamboy is the best representation of the Building, prportions, colours & quality
2. Yours second is not bad too, but too large, your first attempt was poor
3. Damiah Koh version is reallybad quality, poor quality in doing.. the worst version, but Dylan put as primary main

I recommend you take your second version, do thinner and reupload, then you get it as main. Regards

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Old Posted Nov 15, 2022, 7:32 AM
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I don't think someone's painting is right or bad.
I draw buildings as if I were dissecting them
so, buildings tend to be drew thick.
I've been trying not to do that lately
so my drawing is also not good and a lot to be desired.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 6:56 AM
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In this case, you can see the date order which the drawings were submitted (image below), so Damien's drawing replaced Etesia's drawing because it is newer, and I usually do this to highlight newer drawings.

Steamboy's drawing isn't the correct height, unless I were to go in and adjust the image, since there currently is no auto-resize feature built into the database.

Sometimes people post in the forum that they want a different primary drawing selected for a building and I usually change it. (If you ever do so, please post a direct link to the building for me to use). In this case I've switched back to Etesia's drawings for the two Busan IPARK towers - https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=10

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Thank you for the insight! I appreciate that you allow new artists a chance to share in the spotlight, which I know can be a difficult decision when there are several great drawings to choose from.

I love that this website keeps all the variations because I love looking at how different artists perceive the same building. I enjoy Koops65 and Steamboy for their realism. I love etesia’s and Xiaomianlong’s drawings as well for their use of artistic shading and light.

As a beginner, I just don’t know how everyone is able to pump out so many amazing drawings. It currently takes me about 10 work-hours to do a single one that turns out so-so.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 10:23 PM
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Is very common to take 10 hours or more to do a building, in my case with some buildings can be some days

In your case is amazing the quality of your drawings seeing that they are the first ones, really high quality
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2022, 5:44 AM
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Is very common to take 10 hours or more to do a building, in my case with some buildings can be some days

In your case is amazing the quality of your drawings seeing that they are the first ones, really high quality
Thank you! I’m very tough on myself and keep going back to make changes until I’m satisfied with the results. I like to study the works of other illustrators for inspiration, and to better understand what techniques they use for shading, light, and perspective.

What is your username? I searched for La_Parca and some variations of that but couldn’t find anything.
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2022, 11:35 PM
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Yes, i sometimes do zoom to drawing from other users to discover things that can i use

My name is FacF

And here are my drawings:

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?memberID=24721

(Ignore some of the first ones, they are based in 3D models from my authory)
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2022, 1:23 PM
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Yes, i sometimes do zoom to drawing from other users to discover things that can i use

My name is FacF

And here are my drawings:

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?memberID=24721

(Ignore some of the first ones, they are based in 3D models from my authory)
Your drawings are incredible, and you have so many. Especially the Basilica Nuestra Señora de Lourdes and the Estrada de Ferro Central. I love the complexity and attention to detail.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 7:42 PM
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A bit random, but unless I'm mistaken did Steamboy sneak a diagram in last week after a multi-year hiatus?

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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 10:08 PM
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I believe he had to go and join the army...
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2022, 12:20 PM
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It has been confirmed that the Steemboy's painting is not correct height, so Dylan probably changed it himself.
Steamboy hasn't been on for five years.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2022, 3:15 PM
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Steamboy last online in forum was January 4th, 2019 https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/member.php?u=50900

At my last conversation with him, he intended to do Architecture in Taiwan Schools and probably he would be a great Architect. He is still very active in his Facebook as Wei Neo, https://www.facebook.com/wei.neo

As SSP is not a dynamic Web presence in terms of diagrams, we all know the problems, maybe he lost interest in illustrating here, same as me...
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2022, 4:20 PM
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Steamboy last online in forum was January 4th, 2019 https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/member.php?u=50900

At my last conversation with him, he intended to do Architecture in Taiwan Schools and probably he would be a great Architect. He is still very active in his Facebook as Wei Neo, https://www.facebook.com/wei.neo

As SSP is not a dynamic Web presence in terms of diagrams, we all know the problems, maybe he lost interest in illustrating here, same as me...
That makes me feel good at least, glad knowing he’s doing alright.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2022, 4:44 PM
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It has been confirmed that the Steemboy's painting is not correct height, so Dylan probably changed it himself.
Steamboy hasn't been on for five years.
Yeah, Same for Raptor and DannyHighrise.
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