Phoenix | Central Station Towers 1 & 2 | 372 FT | 32 Floors & 230 FT | 22 Floors - Page 15

Nobody-Important · #**281** Posted **Feb 8, 2020, 4:30 AM**

With that being said, the U.S. Bank Tower will be dethroned from being the 2nd tallest!

somethingfast · #**282** Posted **Feb 8, 2020, 5:53 PM**

420' ish? BAM!

PHX-DUDE-MAN · #**283** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 5:36 PM**

Did I see somewhere that this project is suppose to break ground this summer? When does this start? Very excited about it. Hopefully this breaks the glass ceiling for future projects to build above 400' consistently.

CrestedSaguaro · #**284** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX-DUDE-MAN

Did I see somewhere that this project is suppose to break ground this summer? When does this start? Very excited about it. Hopefully this breaks the glass ceiling for future projects to build above 400' consistently.

Supposedly sometime around July last I read. So probably September to November

I think this, plus Astra will definitely raise the bar in Phoenix. If that Rastegar project has any traction (have not heard anything else on it though since last summer), that would really send Phoenix into new height territory.

PHX-DUDE-MAN · #**285** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 5:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Supposedly sometime around July last I read. So probably September to November

I think this, plus Astra will definitely raise the bar in Phoenix. If that Rastegar project has any traction (have not heard anything else on it though since last summer), that would really send Phoenix into new height territory.

That's true, very exciting! Thanks for the quick reply too. Happy Monday

Phxguy · #**286** Posted **Feb 14, 2020, 2:37 AM**

Project is looking more and more serious....7 variances are being filed for this property with a zoning meeting set for March 19th. Mostly for reducing/increasing building setbacks. Project is ZA-74-20 if anyone wanted to look it up.

ASUSunDevil · #**287** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 11:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX-DUDE-MAN

Did I see somewhere that this project is suppose to break ground this summer? When does this start? Very excited about it. Hopefully this breaks the glass ceiling for future projects to build above 400' consistently.

Yep: https://dtphx.org/2020/01/21/15-down...rd-to-in-2020/

Sunsfan87 · #**288** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 7:18 PM**

The developer for this project, Medistar, shows on their website that the Central Station will only be 28 stories for the larger tower. It also says they plan for a ground breaking in Q4 2020. I'm not sure if these are recent changes or not...

https://www.medistarcorp.com/in-development/

You'll have to scroll down on their webpage to see the Central Station information.

ASU Diablo · #**289** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87

The developer for this project, Medistar, shows on their website that the Central Station will only be 28 stories for the larger tower. It also says they plan for a ground breaking in Q4 2020. I'm not sure if these are recent changes or not...

https://www.medistarcorp.com/in-development/

You'll have to scroll down on their webpage to see the Central Station information.

Man, what a kick to the nuts if true

Phxguy · #**290** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87

The developer for this project, Medistar, shows on their website that the Central Station will only be 28 stories for the larger tower. It also says they plan for a ground breaking in Q4 2020. I'm not sure if these are recent changes or not...

https://www.medistarcorp.com/in-development/

You'll have to scroll down on their webpage to see the Central Station information.

Looks like they might’ve nixed the hotel portion of the East Tower which was about 8 or so floors. But the new number still doesn’t add up, if they anticipate 28 floors of residential, 2 floors of office, and 1 floor of retail.

The variance site plan I have, dated March 3rd, 2020, still shows a hotel entrance off Van Buren. So this is confusing...

PHXFlyer11 · #**291** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 9:14 PM**

Deleted - thought the site was never updated, but went back and saw they had updated it at one point.

combusean · #**292** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 11:11 PM**

They did that kitchen sink development to win RFP points. It's total crap they get to modify/shrink their plans after the fact.

azliam · #**293** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 11:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

They did that kitchen sink development to win RFP points. It's total crap they get to modify/shrink their plans after the fact.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I want my Davis proposal back.

combusean · #**294** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 11:32 PM**

So the tower seems like it's 31 stories if you actually read what's on medstar's site:

28 floors of apartments + 2 floors of podium office + 1 level of ground retail

Old article:

https://patch.com/arizona/phoenix/ph...wn-transit-hub

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A 30-story tower on the southeast portion of the site will house a 150-room hotel, 300 apartments, and 35,000 square feet of office space. An 18-story tower on the west side of the site will include student housing and 9,000 square feet of office space for the city's public transit department. Both towers will be situated on top of three levels of underground parking.

It seems like they added 64 units of residential which I suspect is filling in the hotel space and 25,000 square feet of office. That doesn't meet the return to the city as measured by the RFP through bed taxes however.

xymox · #**295** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 4:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

So the tower seems like it's 31 stories if you actually read what's on medstar's site:

28 floors of apartments + 2 floors of podium office + 1 level of ground retail

Old article:

https://patch.com/arizona/phoenix/ph...wn-transit-hub

It seems like they added 64 units of residential which I suspect is filling in the hotel space and 25,000 square feet of office. That doesn't meet the return to the city as measured by the RFP through bed taxes however.

Anyone actually contact them and ask directly?

For more information, contact James Geimer at jgeimer@MedistarCorp.com or 713.266.8990.

From the website...

CrestedSaguaro · #**296** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 4:48 PM**

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CrestedSaguaro · #**297** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 4:57 PM**

Looks like I was wrong on my post above. Could've swore the site previously stated 25 stories. Checked the cache history of the site and this is what it was previoiusly before the change:

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EAST TOWER, 37 STORIES

Hotel suites and guestrooms: 152 keys on 8 floors
Apartments: 25 floors with 321 units comprising 242,850 rentable square feet
Office: 48,000 square feet on two floors
Retail: 24,300 square feet at street-level

So if correct, the tower has received a significant reduction in height.

xymox · #**298** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Looks like I was wrong on my post above. Could've swore the site previously stated 25 stories. Checked the cache history of the site and this is what it was previoiusly before the change:

So if correct, the tower has received a significant reduction in height.

I’d imagine at this point the hotel backed out due to the economy. Maybe had a go/no-go to commit and they didn’t commit so they adjusted. Though does the site have enough room to put a 3rd tower? Thinking maybe they could defer the hotel until economy recovers and put up a 3rd? (Wishful thinking, I know, but...)

combusean · #**299** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 11:08 PM**

So it was initially proposed at 30 odd stories, then to 37, then back down.

I don't know how they can operate like that, especially as they pursue zoning.

I bet this project won't even get built.

CrestedSaguaro · #**300** Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

So it was initially proposed at 30 odd stories, then to 37, then back down.

I don't know how they can operate like that, especially as they pursue zoning.

I bet this project won't even get built.

I've been secretly pessimistic about this, especially with the current state of the economy which is probably what led to the hotel portion getting scrapped. Being this was an RFP, what kind of penalties are there should they back out of the RFP as Smithgroup did?