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It is sort of akin to the aluminum sided garage behind the stately blonde brick bungalow, no?
Honestly looks like it belongs in Seattle
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Ran the numbers for April for how many sales I could find in the city proper where the sale price was greater than the list price. I found at least 600 of them, which greatly surpasses the other months of the year.

April 2021: 600
March 2021: 306
January 2021: 172
February 2021: 125

All in all, that's 1203 sales this year from January 1 - April 30 where sale price > list price (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...7.7091955&z=13)

For April 2021 here's the top areas:
1. West Town: 50 sales
2. Lake View: 33
3. North Center: 27
4. Uptown: 26
5. Logan Square: 23
6. Lincoln Park: 20
7T. Near West Side: 19
7T. Portage Park: 19
9T. Irving Park: 17
9T. Near North Side: 17
11T. Near South Side: 16
11T. Rogers Park: 16
13. Norwood Park: 15
14T. Auburn Gresham: 14
14T. Roseland: 14
16T. Avondale: 13
16T. Dunning: 13
16T. Lincoln Square: 13
19T. Austin: 11
19T. Edgewater: 11
21T. Albany Park: 10
21T. Belmont Cragin: 10
21T. Chatham: 10
21T. Clearing: 10
25T. Bridgeport: 9
25T. The Loop: 9

For 2021 in total from Jan 1 - Apr 30:
1. West Town: 78 sales
2T. Lake View: 54
2T. Near West Side: 54
4. Logan Square: 41
5. North Center: 38
6T. Portage Park: 37
6T. Uptown: 37
8. Auburn Gresham: 35
9T. Near North Side: 34
9T. Near South Side: 34
11. Lincoln Park: 31
12T. Austin: 29
12T. Irving Park: 29
14. Roseland: 28
15. Rogers Park: 27
16. Norwood Park: 25
17T. Belmont Cragin: 24
17T. Chatham: 24
19. Lincoln Square: 23
20. Ashburn: 22
21T. Dunning: 21
21T. West Pullman: 21
23. Washington Heights: 20
24T. Albany Park: 19
24T. Garfield Ridge: 19
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Ran the numbers for April for how many sales I could find in the city proper where the sale price was greater than the list price. I found at least 600 of them, which greatly surpasses the other months of the year.

April 2021: 600
March 2021: 306
January 2021: 172
February 2021: 125

All in all, that's 1203 sales this year from January 1 - April 30 where sale price > list price (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...7.7091955&z=13)

For April 2021 here's the top areas:
1. West Town: 50 sales
2. Lake View: 33
3. North Center: 27
4. Uptown: 26
5. Logan Square: 23
6. Lincoln Park: 20
7T. Near West Side: 19
7T. Portage Park: 19
9T. Irving Park: 17
9T. Near North Side: 17
11T. Near South Side: 16
11T. Rogers Park: 16
13. Norwood Park: 15
14T. Auburn Gresham: 14
14T. Roseland: 14
16T. Avondale: 13
16T. Dunning: 13
16T. Lincoln Square: 13
19T. Austin: 11
19T. Edgewater: 11
21T. Albany Park: 10
21T. Belmont Cragin: 10
21T. Chatham: 10
21T. Clearing: 10
25T. Bridgeport: 9
25T. The Loop: 9

For 2021 in total from Jan 1 - Apr 30:
1. West Town: 78 sales
2T. Lake View: 54
2T. Near West Side: 54
4. Logan Square: 41
5. North Center: 38
6T. Portage Park: 37
6T. Uptown: 37
8. Auburn Gresham: 35
9T. Near North Side: 34
9T. Near South Side: 34
11. Lincoln Park: 31
12T. Austin: 29
12T. Irving Park: 29
14. Roseland: 28
15. Rogers Park: 27
16. Norwood Park: 25
17T. Belmont Cragin: 24
17T. Chatham: 24
19. Lincoln Square: 23
20. Ashburn: 22
21T. Dunning: 21
21T. West Pullman: 21
23. Washington Heights: 20
24T. Albany Park: 19
24T. Garfield Ridge: 19
Here's the number of homes sold in what Redfin calls "The Loop" over the last year:



Boundaries appear to be Roosevelt and the river.
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^^ Noticeably absent, McKinley, Little Village, Brighton Park, Pilsen. Are those near SW communities represented in another district above? I dont think Bridgeport covers them.

Most encouraging is Auburn Gresham, Ashburn, Wash Hts, Roseland and Chatham.
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^ Pilsen is under “Lower West Side”

I think it’s housing market (SFH at least) has not yet gentrified fully. It’s still full of student/college grad renters and older immigrant homeowners.
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Sad news

Helmut Jahn, the famous German architect behind some of Chicago’s most impressive buildings, including the Thompson Center, died when he was struck by two vehicles while riding his bicycle Saturday afternoon, according to Campton Hills police. He was 81.

Jahn was riding his bicycle north on Old Lafox Road, approaching Burlington Road about 3:30 p.m. Saturday “and failed to stop at the posted stop sign,” according to a news release from Campton Hills police, a village near St. Charles in west suburban Kane County.

A vehicle headed east on Burlington Road struck Jahn, according to the statement from Steven Millar, Campton Hills police chief. A second vehicle, headed west on Burlington Road, then struck him as well, it said.

Jahn was pronounced dead at the accident site.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...d24-story.html
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^^ Noticeably absent, McKinley, Little Village, Brighton Park, Pilsen. Are those near SW communities represented in another district above? I dont think Bridgeport covers them.

Most encouraging is Auburn Gresham, Ashburn, Wash Hts, Roseland and Chatham.
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^ Pilsen is under “Lower West Side”

I think it’s housing market (SFH at least) has not yet gentrified fully. It’s still full of student/college grad renters and older immigrant homeowners.
Also remember, the data I collected is purely on properties which sold for above their original list price (I have some standards - it would probably be more by others standards because they will just take the last "List" price even if there was a list record a month previous for the same property).

By my count, about 19% of all sales in the city (that I can see) in April sold for at or above their original list price. There were a bunch I couldn't get data on so it's probably 20%+.


Also I should have noted the numbers included multi unit buildings. Most of those sold in the records are small (2 or 3 units). So here's the breakdown from Jan 1 - Apr 30...


SFH
1. Portage Park: 28 SFH sales above list price
2. Auburn Gresham: 24
3T. Belmont Cragin: 23
3T. Norwood Park: 23
3T. Roseland: 23
6. Ashburn: 21
7T. Garfield Ridge: 18
7T. Washington Heights: 18
7T. West Pullman: 18
10. Chatham: 17
11. Irving Park: 16
12. Dunning: 15
13. Morgan Park: 14
14. Clearing: 13
15. West Lawn: 12
16T. Beverly: 11
16T. Logan Square: 11
18T. Austin: 10
18T. Greater Grand Crossing: 10
18T. Jefferson Park: 10
18T. Lincoln Square: 10
18T. Mount Greenwood: 10
18T. West Englewood: 10
24. Forest Glen: 8
25T. Albany Park: 7
25T. North Center: 7
25T. West Town: 7


Condo/Townhomes
1. West Town: 69 Condo/Townhome sales above list price
2. Near West Side: 52
3. Lake View: 48
4. Uptown: 36
5T. Near North Side: 34
5T. Near South Side: 34
7. Lincoln Park: 29
8. Logan Square: 27
9. North Center: 26
10. Rogers Park: 23
11. The Loop: 13
12. Edgewater: 12
13. Avondale: 11
14. Lincoln Square: 10
15T. Albany Park: 9
15T. Irving Park 9

Multi Unit Building
1. Austin: 19 multi unit building sales above list price
2. Auburn Gresham: 10
3. Brighton Park: 9
4. North Lawndale: 8
5T. Chicago Lawn: 7
5T. Greater Grand Crossing: 7
5T. Little Village: 7
5T. New City: 7
9T. Chatham: 6
9T. Portage Park: 6
9T. South Shore: 6
9T. West Garfield Park: 6
13T. Roseland: 5
13T. Washington Park: 5
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Sad news

Helmut Jahn, the famous German architect behind some of Chicago’s most impressive buildings, including the Thompson Center, died when he was struck by two vehicles while riding his bicycle Saturday afternoon, according to Campton Hills police. He was 81.

Jahn was riding his bicycle north on Old Lafox Road, approaching Burlington Road about 3:30 p.m. Saturday “and failed to stop at the posted stop sign,” according to a news release from Campton Hills police, a village near St. Charles in west suburban Kane County.

A vehicle headed east on Burlington Road struck Jahn, according to the statement from Steven Millar, Campton Hills police chief. A second vehicle, headed west on Burlington Road, then struck him as well, it said.

Jahn was pronounced dead at the accident site.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...d24-story.html
I can’t help but wonder if his death will have any impact on decisions to preserve Thompson Center
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Sad news

Helmut Jahn, the famous German architect behind some of Chicago’s most impressive buildings, including the Thompson Center, died when he was struck by two vehicles while riding his bicycle Saturday afternoon, according to Campton Hills police. He was 81.

Jahn was riding his bicycle north on Old Lafox Road, approaching Burlington Road about 3:30 p.m. Saturday “and failed to stop at the posted stop sign,” according to a news release from Campton Hills police, a village near St. Charles in west suburban Kane County.

A vehicle headed east on Burlington Road struck Jahn, according to the statement from Steven Millar, Campton Hills police chief. A second vehicle, headed west on Burlington Road, then struck him as well, it said.

Jahn was pronounced dead at the accident site.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...d24-story.html
It's always the cyclist's fault, never the road design or the cars themselves. How do they know he failed to stop at the stop sign? "Multiple witnesses" told them? What? Was it the person in one car and then the person in the other that reported it? I'm just tired of things like these always being reported as the cyclist's fault when they rarely are.
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It's always the cyclist's fault, never the road design or the cars themselves. How do they know he failed to stop at the stop sign? "Multiple witnesses" told them? What? Was it the person in one car and then the person in the other that reported it? I'm just tired of things like these always being reported as the cyclist's fault when they rarely are.
Seriously? Not sure I'd want to go there with this one, Bonsai Tree. Doesn't exactly seem like a situation where the bicyclist bore little to no responsibility for the crash(es).

Regardless, may Jahn rest in peace.

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Seriously? Not sure I'd want to go there with this one, Bonsai Tree. Doesn't exactly seem like a situation where the bicyclist bore little to no responsibility for the crash(es).

Regardless, may Jahn rest in peace.

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He absolutely may have some responsibility for what happened, he was after all 81, but I'm just tired of seeing it ALWAYS reported as the cyclist's fault. No one talks about what could have been done at that intersection to prevent an accident like this from occurring. People go "well, it must've been his fault so who cares", when in reality they should look at an intersection like that and create a fail-safe to prevent things like this from happening. That's what I'm frustrated about. Over 800 cyclists die every year from cars in the US alone. Maybe someone needs to realize that we have a problem that needs fixing instead of just always pinning the blame somewhere.
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He absolutely may have some responsibility for what happened, he was after all 81, but I'm just tired of seeing it ALWAYS reported as the cyclist's fault. No one talks about what could have been done at that intersection to prevent an accident like this from occurring. People go "well, it must've been his fault so who cares", when in reality they should look at an intersection like that and create a fail-safe to prevent things like this from happening. That's what I'm frustrated about. Over 800 cyclists die every year from cars in the US alone. Maybe someone needs to realize that we have a problem that needs fixing instead of just always pinning the blame somewhere.
Would be interesting to see the data - and also pedestrians have been killed before we had cars or bicycles were big. My 3rd great grandfather was killed by a horse and buggy on the street in NYC at nearly the same age as Jahn. I don't think it's anything new, but am curious to see the data over time in general of pedestrians being killed in the street by getting run over by something (car, horse/buggy, etc) and the blame game over time.
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He absolutely may have some responsibility for what happened, he was after all 81, but I'm just tired of seeing it ALWAYS reported as the cyclist's fault. No one talks about what could have been done at that intersection to prevent an accident like this from occurring. People go "well, it must've been his fault so who cares", when in reality they should look at an intersection like that and create a fail-safe to prevent things like this from happening. That's what I'm frustrated about. Over 800 cyclists die every year from cars in the US alone. Maybe someone needs to realize that we have a problem that needs fixing instead of just always pinning the blame somewhere.
This was obviously a very dangerous intersection that you would never want to see an elderly man attempt. But it is true that the cars had the right-of-way on an intercity/village road, and the police statement was probably what happened.

But there’s not a solution to a place like Campton Township aside from wholesale development bans. It’s literally bare minimum subdivisions strung along widened repaved country roads. I think it would be a waste of money to try to turn a fundamentally anti-urban area into a walkable place.


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I think it would be a waste of money to try to turn a fundamentally anti-urban area into a walkable place.


Yup. People that live out there did not choose that location because of its walkability. You would be building infrastructure the people living there do not want.

That said, it wouldn't be a bad idea for them to invest in recreational bike trails/pedestrian pathways, if they don't already have them. This is assuming that Jahn was simply out for a bike ride, and not actually trying to get somewhere with a bike as his mode of transportation.
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