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harryc · #**47541** Posted **Sep 2, 2020, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jibba

Just weird that they contrived a "vertical expansion" on a brand-new building.

The old building was so very disposable.

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emathias · #**47542** Posted **Sep 3, 2020, 1:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Goose Island Guru

Whole Foods is moving one block north... I can't imagine it's that much further out of the way than the current location.

The entrance will be on the corner of Chicago and State. Whole Foods is on Huron two blocks south, and the entrance is about 2/3rd of the block West of State. Currently it's a four minute walk for be from my door to Whole Foods and 8 minutes to Chicago/State, a four minute difference.

It's not a huge issue, but if I have a choice I take the Brown Line much more often than the Red Line because it's nearer. And four minutes sounds much more reasonable walking when you're not carrying thirty pounds of groceries or anything requiring both hands in the rain.

I'm constantly surprised by people who consider themselves urbanists who really think that moving ones closest grocery store from 4-5 minutes away to 8 minutes away isn't a significant change in convenience, because it is. Go ahead and sound like a tough guy who has no trouble adding minutes to his grocery shopping and I'll keep expressing the reality that once you're over 40 little inconveniences are increasingly annoying.

Also, entire market segments exist because people don't want to add five minutes to a trip. Why do people pay more for a soda at the corner market than at the grocery store a few blocks away that is cheaper - because it's annoying to add five minutes to every trip, that's why. Convenience is huge, and 4vs8 is huge in convenience.

marothisu · #**47543** Posted **Sep 3, 2020, 12:18 PM**

Can confirm..4 minutes can make a big difference when you are having to carry groceries home by hand. Ultimately you deal with it but it still is a bit noticeable.

KOgc · #**47544** Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM**

Red tower crane being set up on the Fulton Market Labs building.

marothisu · #**47545** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 1:21 PM**

1123 W Randolph (Randolph & May) was issued a new construction building permit today. It's supposed to be 6 stories tall but only 9 units. The first 2 floors are to be retail space. Building height will be a few inches under 70 feet tall, although the very top of the structure could reach 80-85+ feet tall.

Via BuzzBuzzHome (https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/1123-west-randolph)

The parcel is currently a surface parking lot and has been for a long time:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...5!4d-87.655433

jpIllInoIs · #**47546** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 3:48 PM**

^Another parking lot buts the dust.

What a great location-right on the Randolph Blvd. Fulton Market continues to roll. Most important for this building is the finishes..318 Carpenter has set the bar.

rivernorthlurker · #**47547** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 8:34 PM**

disregard

rivernorthlurker · #**47548** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 8:42 PM**

I was walking on Randolph, and on the lot katty/kitty corner to the 1123 W Randolph project mentioned above, there is an active excavator moving some dirt around. This is also Randlolph and May but other side of street. Snapped a pic of permit. Think it may be part of the 'Amylu Collection'. Curious if anyone knows more.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/7/31...ylu-collection

harryc · #**47549** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 11:34 AM**

Aug 28

harryc · #**47550** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM**

Sept 4

RedCorsair87 · #**47551** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 6:53 PM**

I LOVE the extra outdoor seating all over the city. It would be really vibrant if we did this going forward, weather pending.

ardecila · #**47552** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 9:29 PM**

They should just go ahead and pedestrianize Fulton Market permanently outside of morning delivery hours. The streetscaping is already in place to make it a well-designed public space even without cars.

It's probably too late to add retractable bollards, but New Orleans pedestrianized Royal and Bourbon Streets with some cheap-but-attractive movable barricades made of wrought iron at each intersection. They look a hell of a lot better than the orange construction barriers. They just have a city employee put them out every day.

I've been really disappointed with the lack of creativity or "urban solutions" out of the Lightfoot administration... here's hoping they step it up during the Covid recovery. People talk about NYC recovering after 9/11, but that didn't just happen... it was also the period that Bloomberg was working overtime to lure people back to the city, with new bike lanes, pedestrian plazas everywhere, the High Line opened, etc. The leadership had to create new and exciting reasons to come back to the city center after that major tragedy.

RedCorsair87 · #**47553** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 12:41 AM**

I don't want to get into a political debate, but I don't think that is one of our current mayor's strength. To be fair, she has a lot on her plate.

Now, Rahm...

wierdaaron · #**47554** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 8:29 AM**

Survey markers have gone up in the grassy patch of land at the end of the culdesac on 9th street off clark between amli lofts, amli 900, and elevated metra tracks. I remember it was once planned for townhomes, but I’ve always hoped someone could think of something better for it. The skyline to the northwest is pretty killer.

harryc · #**47555** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 11:52 AM**

Aug 31

harryc · #**47556** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 12:07 PM**

One forgettable old Walgreens replaced by a nice clean gravel lot.

harryc · #**47557** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 12:17 PM**

Aug 31

k1052 · #**47558** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 12:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

They should just go ahead and pedestrianize Fulton Market permanently outside of morning delivery hours. The streetscaping is already in place to make it a well-designed public space even without cars.

It's probably too late to add retractable bollards, but New Orleans pedestrianized Royal and Bourbon Streets with some cheap-but-attractive movable barricades made of wrought iron at each intersection. They look a hell of a lot better than the orange construction barriers. They just have a city employee put them out every day.

I've been really disappointed with the lack of creativity or "urban solutions" out of the Lightfoot administration... here's hoping they step it up during the Covid recovery. People talk about NYC recovering after 9/11, but that didn't just happen... it was also the period that Bloomberg was working overtime to lure people back to the city, with new bike lanes, pedestrian plazas everywhere, the High Line opened, etc. The leadership had to create new and exciting reasons to come back to the city center after that major tragedy.

Yes, the normal good weather outdoor dining setups on Fulton already push you into the street when there is any kind of crowd around in the evenings. Same thing over on Randolph with the service lanes.

I do like these rolling retractable barriers that NYC is using in some spots. A more permanent version of this would be good for Fulton.

marothisu · #**47559** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 2:21 PM**

I noticed the Census Flow Mapper for 2018 came out sometime recently which shows inbound and outbound between counties in the US. I put together data based on which metro areas and states people moved to the Chicago MSA from in 2018. This is a study so there's a margin of error.

https://flowsmapper.geo.census.gov/map.html#

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from MSAs located outside of Illinois

1. NYC MSA: 7307 people
2. Los Angeles MSA: 4753 people
3. St. Louis MSA: 4479 people
4. Indianapolis MSA: 4319 people
5. Milwaukee MSA: 4122 people
6. Washington DC MSA: 3531 people
7. Atlanta MSA: 3271 people
8. Minneapolis MSA: 3049 people
9. Detroit MSA: 2899 people
10. San Francisco MSA: 2865 people
11. Boston MSA: 2677 people
12. Phoenix MSA: 2587 people
13. Dallas MSA: 2569 people
14. Miami MSA: 2534 people
15. Houston MSA: 2518 people
16. Madison, WI MSA: 2098 people
17. Cincinnati MSA: 2011 people
18. San Diego MSA: 1928 people
19. Virginia Beach MSA: 1745 people
20. Denver MSA: 1723 people
21. Philadelphia MSA: 1616 people
22. Seattle MSA: 1607 people
23. Nashville MSA: 1579 people
24. Cleveland MSA: 1515 people
25. Charlotte MSA: 1462 people

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from states not named Illinois

1. Indiana: 24,562 people
2. Wisconsin: 14,737 people
3. California: 13,693 people
4. Texas: 9532 people
5. Florida: 9106 people
6. Michigan: 8804 people
7. Ohio: 6788 people
8. New York: 6428 people
9. Missouri: 4994 people
10. Virginia: 4627 people
11. Georgia: 4356 people
12. Iowa: 3904 people
13. Minnesota: 3825 people
14. Pennsylvania: 3712 people
15. Arizona: 3666 people
16. North Carolina: 3486 people
17. Tennessee: 3408 people
18. Massachusetts: 3398 people
19. Colorado: 3342 people
20. New Jersey: 2833 people
21. Washington: 2260 people
22. Maryland: 2166 people
23. South Carolina: 1481 people
24. Puerto Rico: 1428 people
25. Nevada: 1425 people

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from MSAs all or mostly located within Illinois
Champaign: 3657 people
Ottawa: 2678 people
Rockford: 2554 people
Peoria: 1909 people
Davenport, IA: 1329 people (mostly located within Illinois, but not 100%)
Springfield: 1296 people
Carbondale: 1226 people

ardecila · #**47560** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by wierdaaron

Survey markers have gone up in the grassy patch of land at the end of the culdesac on 9th street off clark between amli lofts, amli 900, and elevated metra tracks. I remember it was once planned for townhomes, but I’ve always hoped someone could think of something better for it. The skyline to the northwest is pretty killer.

Townhomes? No, that patch of land is reserved for an underpass beneath the Metra tracks.

I do see that the city has allocated $3M for design/engineering, so the survey markers may be connected to that.