TOKYO | Tokyo Sky Tree | 634 M - Pinnacle / 471 M - Roof | 32 FLOORS

[Traynor]

OK Tokyo is great blah blah blah, but can we please stop the hyperbole about its population?

Tokyo - 13,010,279 (April 1st 2010)

Canada - 34,230,000 (2010 estimate)

California - 36,961,664 (2009 est.)

All according to Wikipedia

[Gleb]

Originally Posted by Traynor

OK Tokyo is great blah blah blah, but can we stop the hyperbole about its population.

Tokyo - 13,010,279 (April 1st 2010)

Canada - 34,230,000 (2010 estimate)

California - 36,961,664 (2009 est.)

All according to Wikipedia

Well… Compare the size of Canada and Tokyo. Canada is 4565 times larger, you know?

[Traynor]

Originally Posted by Gleb

Well… Compare the size of Canada and Tokyo. Canada is 4565 times larger, you know?

OK then... The Greater Toronto Area has a population nearing 6 million a little less than half that of Tokyo's greater area. That's not too shabby for Canada, a country most of the world thinks is frozen tundra.

[northbay]

Originally Posted by Traynor

OK Tokyo is great blah blah blah, but can we please stop the hyperbole about its population?

Tokyo - 13,010,279 (April 1st 2010)

Canada - 34,230,000 (2010 estimate)

California - 36,961,664 (2009 est.)

All according to Wikipedia

thats the city proper:

the greater tokyo area - 35,676,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Tokyo_Area

[Yume-sama]

Yes, Metro Tokyo has a population of over 35 million. The city proper itself has a population of over 13 million. What's funny is the Japanese government actually offers two population statistics for Tokyo proper. A day time population of nearly 16 million, and a night time population of 13 million. Meaning, on average, 3 million workers commute from the GTA (Greater Tokyo Area Yes I stole that!) in to Tokyo everyday.

Originally Posted by muppet

Edit: actually just looked it up Ropponggi Hills (7.8 million sq. feet) has more than 1.5 times area of the Sears Tower, and almost twice the old World Trade Center towers .

That's an interesting statistic! I knew the floorplates were *huge* (just from walking between buildings ), but didn't know they were quite that big.

The Roppongi Hills Mori Tower is "just" 781 feet tall.

There's some FAT buildings in Tokyo to make up for height restrictions.

[Traynor]

Though I will concede that Tokyo is indeed large, I always find the population estimates for "Greater" areas are dubious at best. Each municipality has various and subjective parameters of what can be considered "part" of their area.

So in essence Canada's greater area population would be 457 million (If you include the U.S. and Mexico) LOL

[Yume-sama]

However, the majority in those areas would identify themselves as being "from" Tokyo. Whereas I in Vancouver wouldn't consider myself a citizen of Tijuana. Similarly, the Greater Osaka Area of 18 million people has residents who would consider themselves to be "from" Osaka, as there is no clear boundary, and the areas are connected extremely well. From the top of a skyscraper in either Tokyo, or Osaka, the buildings go on for as far as the eye can possibly see.

Each municipality, or ward, necessarily does have its own local government and technical border. You couldn't have one person meeting the needs of all 35 or 18 million people.

That doesn't work so well at the Federal level in Canada, or anywhere else

And here she is at over 420m now. Only 114 more m to go (as the final height is 634m, regardless what this thread says )


http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiyurin...n/photostream/

Work on the second observatory should begin in another 30m, as its height is 450m.


http://www.tokyo-skytree.jp/english/index.html

The observatory parts should look better once the blue wrapping paper comes off, upon completion.

[northbay]

yea traynor, your logic doesnt work... no one in the usa would consider canada as part of our territory

metro areas are actually a BETTER way of measuring than city propers. in san francisco for instance, there's only 850,000, but over 7 million call the bay area their home (and call it 'the bay area'). 850,000 or 7 million? which number gives us a better picture of san francisco (economically, politically, culturally etc.)?

'greater area' is not a subjective term in this case.
just face it. tokyo's metro area is 36 million. 36 million people would say they are from 'greater tokyo', period.

yume-sama put it nicely

[Aleks]

ok this childish behavior needs to stop or people will start getting suspensions.

[gramsjdg]

I'm confused as to why the upper observation deck isn't on top of the superstructure. The proportions are odd because it is so close to the main observation deck. (If it were on top, it would also be at around 1600ft instead of 1475ft (a whopping 10 feet higher than the 1465ft skypod on the CN Tower)

[muppet]

Tokyo city proper is a fraction of the city itself:



the Greater Tokyo area is not just a CSA connected up by commuters across large tracts of open land as in NYC or LA etc (an area near the size of Scotland), but most of it is contiguous cityscape.

The last census put the population at 39 million. If you really wanted a CSA style count you could conceivably add up the string of contiguous cities along the coastal strips (plus Osaka) all the way to Kyushu island, with tens of millions more:


www.mapwatch.com

[Yume-sama]

A pretty rare clear blue sky, for this time of year~ Don't come to Tokyo for a view if you arrive in the Summer, early Fall

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiyurin...n/photostream/

Probably you will get your best view from mid-October - March from the top of Tokyo Sky Tree.

We are in typhoon season now. There are no official forecasts, but, one always hits the day I land in Tokyo.

So, look out for 100mph winds on September 16th

I am wondering how long a typhoon could force work to be stopped at Tokyo Sky Tree~

[Infernal_Elf]

very beautiful tower and the speed its rising is incredible. only thing that is kinda bad tho is that in just a few years time u will have at least 3 skyscrapers that are taller at their peak. around the world.

but then again this might kick off a skyscraper boom that Tokyo really deserves. and it aint much stopping i them i belive accept from regulations and economics Tapei 101 did show us that it is completely possible to build a very high buildings in these weather conditions and earthquake zones

[Yume-sama]

The only thing stopping Tokyo is the current Japanese economy. It is kind of surprising that this is even going through.

Eventually, though, I'm sure the demand will be there again. The Japanese economy is much more boom and bust than most places, it is very unstable.

Though, land prices have remained rather stagnant. I remember reading an article in Osaka that claimed for the first time in 15 years land increased in value~

What Japan really needs is a devaluation of the Yen. It is at unacceptably high levels right now~

[mrnyc]

not sure i saw this one anywhere back on the thread, i probably just missed it, but if no this is a 2006-7 image i found on the 'nets - looks even more retro here, kind of like it belongs in the fritz lang movie 'metropolis':

[malec]

Updates of this

Originally Posted by Momo1435

And today they actually broke it, they started installing the steel beams of the outside frame and those are taller then the latest parts for the core.

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tokyo2ndtower.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/


tokyo-sky-tree.seesaa.net/






512colors.blog120.fc2.com/


runfaster.blog116.fc2.com/

[Yume-sama]

Fantastic~ Those are great photos which really show how BIG it is!

[View2saintmartin]

gorgeous indeed!

[northbay]

yea, i like that last photo especially

[Aleks]

on those pictures and renderings the part between the bottom and top skypod seem filled with something.

is this just structural work that's being covered up? will there be floors in between both pods?