Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure - Page 280

borkborkbork · #**5581** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 4:36 PM**

Would all of these improvements people are talking about (continuous flow intersections, additional lanes, twinning) just make it temporarily faster for people to leave the city to live in ESP? And won't less congestion just speed up the development of ESP and other exurbs?

I guess there are ways of mitigating this (e.g. toll ring systems like Oslo) but I can't imagine Winnipeggers standing for that.

esquire · #**5582** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork

Would all of these improvements people are talking about (continuous flow intersections, additional lanes, twinning) just make it temporarily faster for people to leave the city to live in ESP? And won't less congestion just speed up the development of ESP and other exurbs?

I guess there are ways of mitigating this (e.g. toll ring systems like Oslo) but I can't imagine Winnipeggers standing for that.

It is a tough situation because on one hand I can understand the appeal of not wanting to make it too easy for people living in the exurbs, but on the other hand it's getting increasingly tough just to get around town for the people who actually do live in this city.

optimusREIM · #**5583** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 5:09 PM**

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It is a tough situation because on one hand I can understand the appeal of not wanting to make it too easy for people living in the exurbs, but on the other hand it's getting increasingly tough just to get around town for the people who actually do live in this city.

Yeah. Also, even with excellent transit, it's not like everyone will just stop driving. At this point, we need major investments in both roads and dedicated transit ways to catch up.

bomberjet · #**5584** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 6:10 PM**

Development in ESP has slowed substantially from the boom back in to 90's, 00's.

There aren't any major developments underway at this point. Just a couple smaller sites. Lots of land for sale. There's a couple major developments that have been planned for a long time, but nothing has happened. Such a Fahr lands, there's the golf course property off Lag. Otherwise, nothing like Pritchard Farm or the main town of Birds Hill.

esquire · #**5585** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 6:14 PM**

^ I get the impression that it's been kind of a slow and steady creep of development around there. No larger projects but every time I'm driving up around there I can always see several houses going up. It adds up over time.

A good chunk of my family moved out to Pritchard Farm when it was built... the homes are nice but that is a little too much suburbia for me. Not my jam.

bomberjet · #**5586** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 6:23 PM**

I think the farthest I would move out in that area is the Saddleridge development inside the perimeter. And that is kinda far, no transit..

Even then, we're looking to move shortly and would prefer to be in an older neighbourhood, renovated home.

CoryB · #**5587** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 6:45 PM**

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I guess there are ways of mitigating this (e.g. toll ring systems like Oslo) but I can't imagine Winnipeggers standing for that.

Well we could put in place a toll system for people as they enter Winnipeg. It would have minimal impact on the citizens of Winnipeg. That said it might not be too popular in ESP, WSP, St Andrews, LaSalle, Lorette, OakBank, etc

YWG-RO · #**5588** Posted **Dec 10, 2020, 12:06 AM**

ESP development intentionally slowed until sewage treatment plant updates complete, likely in 1-2 years.

Fahr Development didn’t happen due to untimely death of one of their sons, tragic.

Sure, put a toll on vehicles leaving ESP to enter Winnipeg. Where does the majority of gasoline for Winnipeg come from? Right, Imperial Oil Storage Facility in ESP. Heck, place a toll on 59 and 101 that pass through ESP, some of the busiest highways in the province. My point is that most of the traffic passes through to other parts. ESP population is only 10 k. People are not forced to live here; some like it and stay, others don’t.

Gm0ney · #**5589** Posted **Jan 13, 2021, 6:54 PM**

The stretch of Corydon between Shaftesbury and Park Blvd. they repaved with asphalt (twice!) over the summer has some significant potholes already in the eastbound lanes near Shaftesbury. Maybe those are just the breaks with a scrape/resurface job but I would've hoped it would last longer than 6 months.

bomberjet · #**5590** Posted **Jan 13, 2021, 7:03 PM**

Was it one the City did themselves? I notice those jobs tend to be crappier than most of the privates crews.

Gm0ney · #**5591** Posted **Jan 13, 2021, 7:25 PM**

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Was it one the City did themselves? I notice those jobs tend to be crappier than most of the privates crews.

I don't think it was the City. It seemed pretty disorganized. They put down one layer that was out by 1/2" where the asphalt met the side streets and at the medians and didn't seem totally finished (it wasn't perfect smooth asphalt - there were pockmarked areas here and there). Then the lines were painted, so I figured they were done. Then 6 or 8 weeks later they put down another layer that transitioned smoothly at the medians and side streets and wasn't pockmarked. Then lines were painted again. And now there are a few spots where it seems that top layer has disintegrated.

plrh · #**5592** Posted **Jan 13, 2021, 8:20 PM**

The city did an overlay east of Shaftesbury to Tuxedo last summer. If it's concrete surface then it was Bayview or Bituminex, I can't remember which of them did EB or WB. I doubt it was the concrete, but I am often wrong.

rkspec · #**5593** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:53 PM**

Im surprised its taking so long to fill the 2 pot holes on Peguis St rite near the Costco entrance.
Its been there for many months, maybe even close to an entire year.
Difficult to avoid if people are coming out of Costco.

Kinguni · #**5594** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 9:04 PM**

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Im surprised its taking so long to fill the 2 pot holes on Peguis St rite near the Costco entrance.
Its been there for many months, maybe even close to an entire year.
Difficult to avoid if people are coming out of Costco.

Means no one has reported them. Probably filled in a day or 2 once reported.

rkspec · #**5595** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 9:19 PM**

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Means no one has reported them. Probably filled in a day or 2 once reported.

looks like i need to call 311 later this eve

plrh · #**5596** Posted **Mar 26, 2021, 9:49 PM**

Bishop Grandin extension east from Lagimodiere to Boul des Hivernants is now tendered as a developer funded access to Sage Creek. The work is to be done this summer. It shouldn't make a difference to anyone except the residents of Sage Creek.

Wpgstvsouth94 · #**5597** Posted **Mar 26, 2021, 11:25 PM**

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Bishop Grandin extension east from Lagimodiere to Boul des Hivernants is now tendered as a developer funded access to Sage Creek. The work is to be done this summer. It shouldn't make a difference to anyone except the residents of Sage Creek.

I read that we’re getting an interchange at this location at bishop and lag. I can’t remember what site I saw this on.

WildCake · #**5598** Posted **Mar 26, 2021, 11:37 PM**

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I read that we’re getting an interchange at this location at bishop and lag. I can’t remember what site I saw this on.

Winnipeghopesanddreams.com?

BigBob100 · #**5599** Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 4:25 AM**

Long time lurker, first time poster. Some time back there was a notice by the city requesting a study about an expressway or similar limited access roadway to follow along the tracks and sorting yards from Transcona to the airport. Has there been any news about this?

rrskylar · #**5600** Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 4:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Development in ESP has slowed substantially from the boom back in to 90's, 00's.

There aren't any major developments underway at this point. Just a couple smaller sites. Lots of land for sale. There's a couple major developments that have been planned for a long time, but nothing has happened. Such a Fahr lands, there's the golf course property off Lag. Otherwise, nothing like Pritchard Farm or the main town of Birds Hill.

There’s no longer the property tax advantage there once was, that and the fact that younger generations want more amenities that the city offers.