noirish Los Angeles

[Blaster]

Union Station parking lot, 1943 (3)

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm heading over to Wrigley Field for the Thrill Circus and Rodeo.

So many of these old photographs are a reminder that at one time, advertising billboards stood at ground level, often surrounded by shrubs and flowers.

[ethereal_reality]

Excellent follow up post on the Potter Park area FlyingWedge.

I don't recall seeing a photograph of the 8th Street School before. -nice find!

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originally posted by MichaelRyerson

I never knew they held rodeos at Wrigley Field.


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It was also great to see the White Log Coffee Shop across from Union Station.
As most of you know, the one at 1061 S. Hill Street, built in 1932, still stands. A remarkable survivor.

[Retired_in_Texas]

Here's one for all you guys that have done such great research. 1301 Ocean Avenue, Santa Monica is a wonderful example of Streamline combined with Art Deco. It was built in 1939, but by whom? Remodeled in 2008 at a supposed cost of $30 million (I suspect a questionable figure). In 2010 it gained somewhat Noirish status by virtue of an incident involving a number of individuals of the Jewish faith.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nta_Monica.jpg

For 2010 story go here: http://www.jewishjournal.com/thenon-...wsuit_20120815

Note the differences in the signage the photo in the article, as well as the removal / addition of shrubs.

[MichaelRyerson]

Shangri-La Hotel, Julius Shulman, 1939

Robert Berman Gallery

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas

Here's one for all you guys that have done such great research.
1301 Ocean Avenue, Santa Monica is a wonderful example of Streamline combined with Art Deco.

Welcome to the thread Retired_in_Texas!


by Chuckaluck


Surprisingly, especially for 1939, the rear of the Shangri-La looks more International Style (mid-century) than Streamline Modern.
When I first saw the postcard below, I thought they had the wrong building!


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plus: Isn't this where they found Whitey Bulger and his moll?

[srk1941]

[QUOTE=Retired_in_Texas;6245927]Here's one for all you guys that have done such great research. 1301 Ocean Avenue, Santa Monica is a wonderful example of Streamline combined with Art Deco. It was built in 1939, but by whom?

The hotel was designed by Beverly Hills architect William E. Foster. He did lots of apartment buildings, churches, larger homes, etc in and around Santa Monica and Beverly Hills...

[MichaelRyerson]

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6245988 plus: Isn't this where they found Whitey Bulger and his moll?[/QUOTE]

Nah, too stylish for Whitey. He (and his moll) were arrested over at the Princess Eugenia apartment complex, a non-descript joint if there ever was one.

[jg6544]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Welcome to the thread Retired_in_Texas!


by Chuckaluck


Surprisingly, especially for 1939, the rear of the Shangri-La looks more International Style (mid-century) than Streamline Modern.
When I first saw the postcard below, I thought they had the wrong building!


ebay
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plus: Isn't this where they found Whitey Bulger and his moll?

If I remember correctly, that building almost came down in the Northridge Earthquake in '94.

[ethereal_reality]

-I hadn't heard that. -interesting.



The Hotel Stratford, circa 1942

ebay



-located on the northeast corner of 8th Street and Hoover. (S. Rampart Boulevard ends at the Stratford)

google aerial




If you look closely, you can see where the vertical sign used to be by the discolored (darker) bricks.

GSV




-some really nice architectural elements. Too bad Pepe decided to place his sign in front of the arched windows. He should have taken
his cue from Karen.

GSV

There are the discolored bricks again, directly above the two arched windows on the left.




-the 8th Street 'entrance' with it's two elegant cartouches. That said, how bad is this neighborhood? That fortified 'caged' entrance is horrendous!

GSV


The Hotel Stratford/Stratford Apartments...not to be confused with the tragic Stratford Arms.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13911
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[Retired_in_Texas]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Welcome to the thread Retired_in_Texas!


by Chuckaluck


Surprisingly, especially for 1939, the rear of the Shangri-La looks more International Style (mid-century) than Streamline Modern.
When I first saw the postcard below, I thought they had the wrong building!


ebay
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plus: Isn't this where they found Whitey Bulger and his moll?

Nope, that is if you accept the L.A. Times article and photo of the arrest site as being accurate. I haven't been able to find a name for the apartments where the Bulger arrest took place.



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ey-bulger.html

[ethereal_reality]

Michael Ryerson places the arrest at the Princess Eugenia Apartments.


http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/9BtzA...ed/N3G5yQwBN_s

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Also one thing else...the cars had real red glass taillights....today, everything is plastic.

http://paramount.com


Always with Chinatown on the brain, I am reminded of Jake Gittes breaking one of the taillights of Mrs. Mulwray's Packard to make it easier for him to follow her.... The sound of breaking glass accompanies the shot above.

[BifRayRock]

Follow up on ER's previous post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5630 Building is very much alive today.



Swelldom's, at 559 S Broadway

1964
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HRSEVSP67K.jpghttp://img806.imageshack.us/img806/4...esundrugbu.jpg



1937 - Tis the season
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098742.jpg



Gratuitous re-insertion of politics, also from ER's earlier post:

Charleston Noakes, a member of the Jefferson Democrats of California, dressed, looking like Paul Revere and riding a horse. He was urging the men and women, citizens to guard their liberties. He called upon them to telegraph their congressmen to vote against the administration's reorganization "dictator" bill. He is in the middle of Broadway and 6th street. The Swelldom department store can be seen in the background .

Does "No left turn" present itself as ironic symbolism?

April 6, 1938 -
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063992.jpg

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Michael Ryerson places the arrest at the Princess Eugenia Apartments.


http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/9BtzA...ed/N3G5yQwBN_s

June 24, 2011 at 03:46 PM.....James "Whitey" Bulger, the alleged mob boss and Top Ten Fugitive who has been on the run since the mid-'90s, was arrested Wednesday night at the Princess Eugenia apartment complex in Santa Monica. His longtime companion, Catherine Greig, was also arrested.

The Princess Eugenia is located at 1012 Third St., just south of Washington Avenue.

On Thursday morning, media swarmed the apartment complex, trying to gather information from tenants, including in which apartment Bulger and Greig had been staying. Police officers were still stationed outside the complex as well.

Ref:Santa Monica Patch

[Those Who Squirm!]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Cars were a lot narrower in 1915....

I think you're onto something here. I went back today and got this shot:



The track for the aluminum door actually goes a couple of feet below the present level of the sidewalk, so at the time of construction it was probably level with the street and intended for cars.

[GaylordWilshire]

derangedlacrimes.com


The never-ending Dahlia story...


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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

You've given Steve Hodel a thrill by putting up such big pics of his father... hard to know who's creepier, father or son. Anyway, I was reminded of Hodel's promised and yet to be delivered results of soil samples from the Sowden house.... I checked with Mr. Harnisch to see what the latest is:


I just read that Hodel is appearing tomorrow, August 22 at 7 PM at the South Pasadena Library to present "The Third and Most Conclusive Installment of His Black Dahlia Trilogy."

According to the announcement...

"The author promises to introduced new, never before released findings, further linking Dr. George Hodel directly to the crime-scene and victim. This news-breaking information is being held as an "exclusive" for those attending the talk, who get to "scoop" the general public."

I was wondering when Larry Harnisch would respond to the Son You Would Never Want to Have: http://ladailymirror.com/2013/08/25/...del-franchise/

In it, Harnisch is funny and logical about it all, as usual.

To quote a commenter to the story:

"[Steve] Hodel is in a dream world and it actually frightens me that he was a cop. If he is this terrible about putting the pieces of Beth’s murder together, I am afraid to know the mistakes he made as a detective." Indeed.

Another commenter introduced me to a word I'd never heard-- Apophenia--which is defined as "the experience of seeing meaningful patterns or connections in random or meaningless data."

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by gsjansen

according to this 1927 photo and the accompanying caption, the corner structure was the home of harmony of Sister Aimee, and her mother


LAPL

This Angelus Temple residence, once a home of harmony in which Aimee Semple McPherson and "Mother" Kennedy dwelt together in peace and accord, later a fortress in the Angelus Temple war from which Mrs. Kennedy fired broadsides of charges against her daughter. Living alone in the deserted home, surrounded by temple activity of which Mrs. Kennedy was a leader for eighteen years, Mrs. Kennedy said, "I am broken-hearted and I haven't had any food or water in this house for three days."

this is a photo of the "new Sister Aimee residence on Manhattan Place after she moved out of the temple residence


LAPL

The accompanying caption reads;

A new home on South Manhattan Place, which served as the residence of Aimee Semple McPherson after she moved out of the parsonage at Angelus Temple. The new headquarters of Aimee Semple McPherson, from which she directed Angelus Temple activities and conducted her battle against Mrs. Minnie Kennedy, which threatened to lead into court. While Mrs. Kennedy expressed doubt of Mrs. McPherson's kidnapping story, Mrs. McPherson answered that her mother was trying to break her in the new temple war.

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Remembering a time when Wilshire Boulevard's sidewalks were bordered by grass.
1927 - Address not provided. Said to be Sister Aimee McPherson's residence on Manhattan Place, after leaving the Angeleus Temple Parsonage.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024567.jpg

Much has been written and told of Sister Aimee's meanderings. Noticed a recent posting of a Manhattan Place home in which she may have set foot. One source supposes that home was "south of Venice Blvd. and within West Adams." http://www.westadams-normandie.com/lapl/old_houses.php But I wonder if the same house wasn't in the Hancock park area. Don't know much about Aimee's choppers, but a Mid-Wilshire location would have made a dental consultation "just around the corner" http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16337 . Maybe someone here has a more definitive answer regarding the location of the Manhattan Place home?



In no particular order, some of the LA/SoCal residences with a Sister Aimee connection. (Excluding the Lake Elsinore castle-cottage and Palm Springs locale).

Sister Aimee's parsonage
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024541.jpg


1932 - Proposed "Temple Towers" (Would have made a great Elks Club Annex)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024543.jpg




April '27 - The "late" Nat Goodwin's home in Santa Monica, where Aimee allegedly spent some time. Nat died in '19, so his connection with Aimee was extremely attenuated. http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=3619,4351374 Exact address unknown.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024540.jpg


'14 - For no particular reason
http://www.harpguitars.net/knutsen_i...n3-marquez.jpghttp://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/n...win-cafe-1.jpg


1926 - 4505 Gramercy Place - Purported kidnapping evidence was found here. Her green bathing costume. Comparing this photo with contemporary location suggests that the structure still exists, although this older image/negative was be reversed.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021799.jpg



"Relaxing" rest provided by mattress found in house with - narcotics!
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021797.jpg



1932 - 2210 W Temple Street. Aimee's free mess hall.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics51/00075061.jpg

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1927 - Address not provided. Said to be Sister Aimee McPherson's residence on Manhattan Place, after leaving the Angeleus Temple Parsonage.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics10/00024567.jpg

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Much has been written and told of Sister Aimee's meanderings. Noticed a recent posting of a Manhattan Place home in which she may have set foot. One source supposes that home was "south of Venice Blvd. and within West Adams." http://www.westadams-normandie.com/lapl/old_houses.php But I wonder if the same house wasn't in the Hancock park area. Don't know much about Aimee's choppers, but a Mid-Wilshire location would have made a dental consultation "just around the corner" http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16337 . Maybe someone here has a more definitive answer regarding the location of the Manhattan Place home?

The address for this house given in news reports was 333 S. Manhattan. An apartment building is there now. What is curious is that the house in the pic above appears to have had a peaked roof and other items airbrushed in--although the short tower at left appears in the pic below as though it must have been original. It looks like there was another peaked-roof house on the north side of the one purported to be Aimee's... and, as you can see in the GSV, there is an old apartment building to the right of 333 S Manhattan now. Perhaps it was built just after the LAPL shot below...

Originally Posted by gsjansen

this is a photo of the "new Sister Aimee residence on Manhattan Place after she moved out of the temple residence

LAPL

The accompanying caption reads;

A new home on South Manhattan Place, which served as the residence of Aimee Semple McPherson after she moved out of the parsonage at Angelus Temple. The new headquarters of Aimee Semple McPherson, from which she directed Angelus Temple activities and conducted her battle against Mrs. Minnie Kennedy, which threatened to lead into court. While Mrs. Kennedy expressed doubt of Mrs. McPherson's kidnapping story, Mrs. McPherson answered that her mother was trying to break her in the new temple war.

hmmmmm, i'm gonna need to do some reading up on the illustrious Mrs. McPherson. I only remember her kidnapping scandal, not the war between her and Mother Kennedy as a fallout over the scandal

GSV

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

The address for this house given in news reports was 333 S. Manhattan. An apartment building is there now. What is curious is that the house in the pic above appears to have had a peaked roof and other items airbrushed in--

Thank you for that info. Having spoken with at least one person who grew up in the neighborhood, before WW2, it was a baffling composite of apartments and homes and businesses in the homes and Churches. It remains that way still.

There clearly are apartment buildings on the 300 block of Manhattan Place that look like they are from the '30s or later. (E.g., "320 S Manhattan Place) This means the "Aimee" residence and others like it could have been demolished or moved to make way for those "newer" buildings.

http://photonet.hotpads.com/search/l...074_medium.jpg

If you noticed the parsonage for the Church on Manhattan Place, I wonder if it was originally just another residence - with no connection to the place of worship other than geographically. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16337 After all, there appears to have been a home on southern side of the Church that fronted Wilshire. I am guessing it remains an example of many homes in the neighborhood, including those that once fronted Wilshire. Come to think of it, I wonder why a building as splendidly large as that Church was not built on Wilshire?


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009293.jpg

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

What is curious is that the house in the pic above appears to have had a peaked roof and other items airbrushed in--although the short tower at left appears in the pic below as though it must have been original. It looks like there was another peaked-roof house on the north side of the one purported to be Aimee's... and, as you can see in the GSV, there is an old apartment building to the right of 333 S Manhattan now.

There's a lot curious about this particular house.

Are those slit shades/screens in the upper windows or worn fabric often found covering organ speakers? Custom leaded windows in a bamboo pattern on second floor?

Top left corner shows evidence of cut-paste-airbrushing. Must have been a nasty looking cloud, or out-of-place zeppelin. Guessing that the overgrowth of ivy (or similar botanicals) made for a disturbingly fuzzy print image, which could have been part of the reason for correcting. Despite his/her intentions, someone's photo correction efforts may not have been an improvement.

Why would the man reading on the stoop not be sitting in one of those more comfortable wicker chairs? Poor lighting? Chairs reserved only for Aimee? He's a burglar trying to avoid drawing attention to himself?