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Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 7:54 AM
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the trains certainly do, but i've never come across any station in tokyo that looks like these- they're more reminiscent of airports than train stations, but that is to be expected when this systems is expected to compete with local carriers
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2007, 11:04 PM
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Sigh....people in Taiwan are so dumb. I understand they're mad at everything that has gone wrong with this high speed train. But 90 percent of the people don't support it....there are anti-高鐵 groups....Taiwanese people are so f*cking selfish and unsupportive of everything the government does.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2007, 11:39 PM
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I'm tired ...tried ! of ths!
I think that's only a few ppl who are against the current government, so they hate everything "related" to the governemnt. The HSR is with the help of the old and the current government! Some of those ppl hold the media power, so they can set the trend easily. Sisy Chen is one big source of that. Howver, I am immuted to what those Taiwanese Media try to feed me, so althought, I only read news in Kimo and Yam, I can see what's the real "news", and what are the trashes that they try to feed us.


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But 90 percent of the people don't support it....
This is BS. Maybe you read some news related to this poll... I think it's one very good example of how some trends are created by some certain groups and news media follow and happily distort.

The original poll of that "90% ppl" news:
http://www.consumers.org.tw/report/s...ort.aspx?id=32

Look at it's topic: "「珍惜生命 不當白老鼠 拒搭高鐵運動」 "
The tone of the poll has been set before ppl try to answer those questions. Not to mention many questions are set to let ppl answer what they want you to answer. Also, it's an online poll! I can also set up a poll that shows 99% of Taiwanse are tired of those media trash...bs..$@#$%

Do you wanna know who they think thier experts are?
TV-BS gives u the answer:
http://news.yam.com/tvbs/politics/20...101772167.html

I do belive the HSR team has a lot to improve, but many things we read from the news are not very fair.
Maybe tomorrow when a report sees a hair on the floor, they will make it a headline news and some political talk shows follow at night to discuss this "major problem" and urge ppl not to take HSR.

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Yea well I knew that number was somehow distorted, but it doesn't really matter. Taiwan's current state is pretty sad......
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2007, 5:00 AM
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wow thanks for the pics, kidd. was there anything that you didnt take a pic of? i wish i can go myself sometime soon.

all taiwanese should be proud of this big achievement. yes, and they definitely should quit listening to the media and those inaccurate and biased polls and support their government more. way to go, taiwan!!
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Screw the media. I bought got two tickets to Tainan for next weekend.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2007, 7:16 PM
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Screw the media. I bought got two tickets to Tainan for next weekend.
pan-blue media... look at those who can't wait to get to ride on HST at the grand opening?



Taipei & Taoyuan County Mayors!!



測試過期票 電視記者挨罰

〔記者羅正明/桃園報導〕台北某電子媒體記者,昨天刻意利用五日發售的過期車票,測試高鐵桃園站的關閘,結果能進、不能出。記者找站方理論,站方則以蓄意逃票為由,重罰記者兩千三百九十元,創下高鐵開通以來的罰款首例。

被罰的記者強調,他們只是想測試高鐵關閘是否設計不當,並非蓄意逃票,反批站務員服務態度不佳。目擊全程的陳姓、黃姓、徐姓旅客都認為,電視台記者態度有錯。

站方人員解釋,高鐵考量優惠期間有諸多的缺失,特別調整關閘程式,容許錯過班車、尚未用過車票的旅客,仍能通關、搭車,但這名記者有通關、沒搭車,又從同一車站出關,當然會被程式挑出。

雙方爭辯不休,最後闖關記者和另一名文字記者,翻遍口袋湊足罰款後,悻悻然離去。




In contrast to Korea's KTX grand opening roughly 2 years ago, in which the passengers were suffering from nausea, vomitting and up to hours of delay across the cities. So far in Taiwan, other than the computer ticket vending glitch and a few misc. issues, our train is on-time, not a minute late!!! :-)

V/C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1eWcFq0iFg

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Old Posted Jan 13, 2007, 9:29 PM
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中天記者觸動警鈴 高鐵要告

中天新聞台派駐新竹的何姓記者因觸動高鐵新竹站的消防警鈴,被警方帶回,他強調誤觸。
中天電視台何姓記者(左黑衣者),被高鐵新竹站方移送警方偵訊。

〔記者許敏溶、蔡孟尚、蕭夙眉、張哲鳴/綜合報導〕中天新聞台駐新竹何姓記者,昨日中午採訪時觸動高鐵新竹站的消防警鈴,並和現場保全人員發生衝突。台灣高鐵公司堅持對記者提告,強調從監視錄影帶可清楚發現,該記者並非誤觸,基於維護公共安全,將依鐵路法、刑法提告,並依民法追究侵權或要求損害賠償。

中天電視台何姓記者昨天下午至高鐵新竹站採訪時,因為觸動消防警鈴,站方維修和保全人員趕到現場瞭解,雙方爆發衝突,過程中何姓記者的攝影機被拍打落地,最後站方將何姓記者送交高鐵警察處理。這也是高鐵通車以來,第一位在站區內涉嫌違法而被移送警方偵辦者。

何姓記者說,他前往採訪前有先打電話通知站方,只是在等候接待時,先行拍攝站區消防栓箱,他看到箱上印有英文字push In(壓下)、pull Down(往下拉),以為這是消防栓箱開關指示,於是依照操作,沒想到因此觸動警鈴。

在場目擊者說,當時高鐵新竹站區警鈴聲大作,維修人員和保全人員都很快趕到現場處理,當時何姓記者並未離開,而且還不斷拍攝,雙方發生口角衝突,後來保全人員還打落記者的攝影機。

記者強調不小心碰觸

站方請來高鐵警察鎮住場面,最後決定將何姓記者與新竹站人員帶往高鐵警務段台中分駐所偵訊。警方表示,何姓記者強調自己是不小心碰觸警鈴,是無心的,因為僅造成旅客、乘客驚慌,但沒導致損失,初步認定沒觸犯公共危險罪。

高鐵局長龐家驊則建議台高,根據社會秩序維護法「無正當理由,擅吹警笛或擅發其他警號」,處以六千元以下罰鍰,不需再對記者提出告訴。

不過台高公共事務處副總經理賈先德表示,不論是誤觸還是蓄意,都有公共安全上的疑慮,他對此事相當遺憾,呼籲媒體不要做錯誤示範。由於台高堅持提告,後續發展值得觀察。

因為採訪引發糾紛,何姓記者昨晚表示,個人不對外發言,一切交給公司和律師處理。而中天新聞部總監廖福順昨天僅說:「不好意思,我們不回應自由時報的問題。」隨即掛上電話。

「不能為測試安全 在戲院喊失火」

〔記者許敏溶、袁世忠、周富美/台北報導〕中天新聞記者採訪高鐵新聞時,觸動警鈴遭移送偵訊,國家通訊傳播委員會(ncc)研判中天記者屬個人行為,暫時無法處罰;學者則批評此類侵入性採訪短期可刺激收視率,但長此以往,民眾會質疑媒體可信度。

傳播學者多持批判立場,師大大傳所所長胡幼偉說,不論是以過期車票測試閘門,或觸動警鈴來試高鐵安全系統,所關心的議題都可透過詢問高鐵等單位獲得答案,特別是高鐵安全系統很敏感,「萬一造成列車緊急停駛,其他乘客的權益又是誰來負責?」

「這就好比不能為了測試戲院的安全系統,而在戲院裡喊失火一樣。」胡幼偉說。

世新大學廣電系助理教授管中祥也指出,侵入式的報導方式,的確很有戲劇性,短時間內或許可以刺激收視率,但久了,民眾會懷疑媒體的可信度。管中祥認為,這樣的行為並沒有新聞法規可規範,但既傷害公信力,又有違法之虞,媒體應該三思。

台灣新聞記者協會常務委員鄭榮文表示,高鐵營運狀況備受媒體關注,記者採訪時擅自打開消防栓之舉並不恰當,雖是不慎引發,仍應檢討。

記協常委鄭榮文表示,在受訪者尚未到達採訪現場之前,記者擅自開啟消防栓已錯在先,警鈴大作是難得一見的畫面,記者在第一時間基於職業本能拿起攝影機拍攝,若受訪者勸阻不要拍攝,記者可與對方好好溝通,最後鬧到記者被移送偵訊,可能是溝通過程中出現誤解,高鐵才會「殺雞儆猴」強制移送。建議記者尊重受訪單位,才能有互信互重機制。
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ok... my fingers need breaks! Enjoy the Wallpapers!~

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Old Posted Feb 5, 2007, 12:55 AM
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That is so hot kidd thanks!
Unfortunately I won't get to ride this baby for another year or so due to co-op.
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are tickets still hard to get? i would really like to take a ride in it.
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since i've seen people speaking abulot tickets i wonder what the fair is? what would it cost to go from taipei to kaohsiung?


looks like a really cool train line
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i think a one way ticket from taipei to kaohisung is less than NT$1,200.
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if that's the case it's disgustingly cheap!.. atleast compared to here.. and our trains are less comfortable and slower...
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That's AMAZING. It looks JUST LIKE the Shinkansen, even the signage!

I lol'd at the guy with his head popping out of the train, reminds me of train conductors in Japan.
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