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Old Posted Jan 22, 2022, 3:12 AM
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The Vegas flights were pretty popular from YHM. I was actually surprised they didn’t bring it back this winter.
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2022, 9:50 PM
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Swoop Summer 2022 Core Schedule Released

Abbotsford - 1x Daily
Edmonton - 1x Daily
Halifax - 1x Daily
Winnipeg - 1x Daily


As of now, Swoop will have two aircraft based in Hamilton.
Aircraft 1: YHM-YWG-YHM-YEG-YHM
Aircraft 2: YHM-YXX-YHM-YHZ-YHM
Swoop adds new maritime routes starting May 1, 2022.
I CALLED IT!

MONCTON starts May 6, 2022
May/June: Mon/Fri
July/August: Mon,Wed,Fri,Sat

CHARLOTTETOWN starts May 1, 2022
May/June: Mon/Thur
July/August: Mon,Thu,Fri,Sun

Toronto gets YYG, YQR, YXE in this update.

Looks like we will get another based aircraft, so I'd expect more routes to be announced soon?

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Old Posted Feb 1, 2022, 10:11 PM
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YVG? That's some tiny runway off in the middle of nowhere in Alberta. Is that correct?
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YVG? That's some tiny runway off in the middle of nowhere in Alberta. Is that correct?
Whoops I meant YYG, the Y looked like a V 😂
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2022, 3:50 PM
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2021 Numbers are out!

Passenger
2021: 250,019 (-24%)
2020: 329,193
--Pandemic--
2019: 955,373
2018: 725,630
2017: 599,146
2016: 333,368
2015: 313,839

Cargo
2021: 766,000,000 kg (+16%)
2020: 658,202,000 kg
2019: 532,235,000 kg
2018: 525,161,000 kg
2017: 499,211,000 kg
2016: 438,924,000 kg
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I'm surprised the passenger numbers aren't a lot lower than that. Hopefully 2022 is a big rebound.

Freight is no surprise at all though. And that will continue to grow.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2022, 5:32 PM
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Speaking of cargo, this property is across the street from the airport and I believe it runs from the HWY 6 ramp to the KF Aerospace parking lot and Airport Road to HWY 6.

From Forge and Foster:
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9555 Airport Rd., where Hopewell Development paid $37.68 million ($713,231 per acre), making it the largest transaction of the week. The Airport Rd. property was last sold in January 2020, for $11.25 million ($212,000 per acre).
I cannot see anyone spending that amount of money on land without a plan for it.

http://www.hopewell.com/
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2022, 6:03 PM
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There have been quite a few larger land transactions in the AEGD from large national industrial developers in the last 12 months, this isn't the first. There is going to be a LOT of industrial development in the next couple of years I expect, especially given the gold-rush level of space availability and cost pressures on the GTA industrial market that is making tenants desperate to grab basically any space they can get their hands on.

I've heard some developers are considering 3-level industrial warehouse "towers" in Toronto as land is in such short supply. Except of course for the AEGD, which is full of large, service ready industrial plots.. perfect for Hamilton's goals of expanding it's industrial tax base.
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There have been quite a few larger land transactions in the AEGD from large national industrial developers in the last 12 months, this isn't the first. There is going to be a LOT of industrial development in the next couple of years I expect, especially given the gold-rush level of space availability and cost pressures on the GTA industrial market that is making tenants desperate to grab basically any space they can get their hands on.

I've heard some developers are considering 3-level industrial warehouse "towers" in Toronto as land is in such short supply. Except of course for the AEGD, which is full of large, service ready industrial plots.. perfect for Hamilton's goals of expanding it's industrial tax base.
This sounds like the perfect type of industrial development we'd be putting on our industrial waterfront, which as far as I know has that kind of capacity for intensive heavy industrial use. Switching the area from manufacturing to simple warehousing might help catalyze some change in the east end/Stoney Creek to more palatable industrial uses. Although, I'm not too familiar with how much land 'stock' there is to start adding any warehousing space, assuming the big industries are all still there. Either way, we need to continue prioritizing absorbing as much of that regional demand as possible and putting it in the AEGD and anywhere else we have the room.
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Stelco sold off most of their land and it's early in the process of getting redeveloped from my understanding, though given the harbour access I'm not sure whoever bought it will be thinking that and may just go for the easy money from distribution warehouses.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 2:28 AM
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Swoop adds new maritime routes starting May 1, 2022.
I CALLED IT!

MONCTON starts May 6, 2022
May/June: Mon/Fri
July/August: Mon,Wed,Fri,Sat

CHARLOTTETOWN starts May 1, 2022
May/June: Mon/Thur
July/August: Mon,Thu,Fri,Sun

Looks like we will get another based aircraft, so I'd expect more routes to be announced soon?
BING BONG!

DEER LAKE starts May 21, 2022
Summer: Wed,Sat

ST. JOHN'S starts June 13, 2022
Summer: Mon,Tue,Thu,Fri,Sun


Edmonton gets bumped to 8x weekly (up from daily).

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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 2:30 AM
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It's really nice to see them adding new routes.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 2:32 PM
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who in the heck is flying to Deer Lake? Seems like an odd choice.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 3:03 PM
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Could be two options why they chose Deer Lake (YDF).

1. They want to in-directly compete with Flair. Flair is launching a Waterloo-Deer Lake flight this summer on Wednesdays and Saturdays. Because Flair/YKF have an exclusivity deal, swoop can't combat them directly, so they'll combat them in-directly... by providing the same flights on the same day...

2. Deer Lake struck a deal with Swoop. It's also kind of cool to point out Swoop is doing YHM-YDF 2x weekly, while YYZ-YDF is only once a week. Looks like it could just be a trial run.
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People will fly into Deer Lake because in is at the top of Newfoundland. They fly in to St John's and out of Deer lake or vice-versa. They don't have to drive back to St. Johns.
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People will fly into Deer Lake because in is at the top of Newfoundland. They fly in to St John's and out of Deer lake or vice-versa. They don't have to drive back to St. Johns.
that's actually a good way of putting it! Never thought of that!
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maaaan why no Swoop Hamilton Kelowna - or am i missing something (other than YYZ doing that route)
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maaaan why no Swoop Hamilton Kelowna - or am i missing something (other than YYZ doing that route)
Apparently there are more announcements to be made! Keep your fingers crossed!
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2022, 6:20 AM
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Apparently there are more announcements to be made! Keep your fingers crossed!
A tidbit I missed was that Swoop is adding six new 737-8 MAX aircraft this summer. I'm scrolling through all their routes and can't seem to find any flight using the MAX yet. So I'm guessing they have yet to announce the MAX routes... Which would mean there is still a ton more routes to come...
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2022, 3:40 AM
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BING BONG!

DEER LAKE starts May 21, 2022
Summer: Wed,Sat

ST. JOHN'S starts June 13, 2022
Summer: Mon,Tue,Thu,Fri,Sun


Edmonton gets bumped to 8x weekly (up from daily).
Swoop there it is, we're seeing the return of year-round USA service!

LAS VEGAS starts June 23, 2022
Summer: Thu,Sun

ST. PETE-CLEARWATER ongoing
Summer: Tue,Sat

ORLANDO (SANFORD) ongoing
Summer: Wed,Sat

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