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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 6:29 PM
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@JustForTheHalibut: I would seriously doubt one could link willful intent to kill into selling drugs. A lousy businessman kills his clients willfully, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be an option to maybe pursue negligence causing death or manslaughter into the equation. Murder, I am much more doubtful on.
I was just going to say something similar.

While both the drug epidemic and murder spikes are tragic societal emergencies, there is a significant difference between a person violently taking someone else's life, and a person who willingly (yes, I know that there is a long and winding road to get to that "will") takes drugs to the point of destroying and ending their own life.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 9:34 PM
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No one in Saskatchewan talks about it because it is pretty much a given that Prince Albert and North Battleford will have homicide rates more than 20 per 100,000. It has seemingly just been ignored by provincial governments here as a fact of life and handed to the municipalities who cannot cope with it.
Northern towns in Manitoba deal with the same dynamic. Thompson has a homicide rate over 20, I'm not sure what the rates are in The Pas and Flin Flon but it wouldn't shock me if they were well above normal although maybe not quite at Thompson levels.

Your comment raises a good point... these municipal governments are forced to deal with the fallout of 150+ years of federal policies. And they are clearly ill equipped to do it which is no surprise given that a municipality's job is to make sure the roads are passable and the sewer system works. They can't address the cumulative effects of how Indigenous people have been treated since for the last 200 years. And that's mainly where the issue lies.

Winnipeg has to deal with this too, although it has more resources to cope with it, and it has the luxury of being by far the biggest fish in the provincial pond so it does get some attention from the province even if the current provincial government isn't that interested in engaging.

Municipalities clearly need help from the provinces and Ottawa to deal with the situations that they are facing. Not just in terms of police budgets and justice resources, but in the bigger picture too... things like housing, education, recreation, health care including addiction treatment... all of the things that help people to successfully integrate into the community.
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Yeah but what about Chicago?
Who gives a shit, that's the States not in Canada.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 11:41 PM
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@JustForTheHalibut: I would seriously doubt one could link willful intent to kill into selling drugs. A lousy businessman kills his clients willfully, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be an option to maybe pursue negligence causing death or manslaughter into the equation. Murder, I am much more doubtful on.
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Nice find ustForTheHalibut. What the heck was going on here in 2019?

A little digging found: Sask. lawyer says manslaughter charges for overdose deaths will likely remain rare

Apparently 2019 was the first time those charges were ever sought in overdose deaths in Saskatchewan. And sentencing of one of the charged: Third man sentenced in string of 2018 fentanyl-laced cocaine overdoses.
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On the face of it, the timing does seem strange. Barton certainly didn't last long.

Watchdog asked to probe former China ambassador Dominic Barton’s job appointment
ROBERT FIFE OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF
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The federal Ethics Commissioner has been formally asked to investigate whether Canada’s former ambassador to Beijing, Dominic Barton, violated ethics rules when he accepted an offer to become chair of Rio Tinto, a global mining company that does much of its business in China.

Two New Democratic MPs wrote to the commissioner, Mario Dion, on Friday. Their letter says they believe Mr. Barton is in breach of the Conflict of Interest Act because he met with executives of Rio Tinto shortly before the end of his time as a diplomat.

The miner announced on Dec. 19, about 10 weeks after an October meeting with Mr. Barton, that it was hiring him. Mr. Barton had announced on Dec. 6 that he would leave his envoy post at the end of that month.

The letter notes that federal conflict-of-interest guidelines restrict the ability of former senior officials, such as Mr. Barton, to take jobs with companies with which they had “direct and significant official dealings” during their final 12 months of government work....


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Montreal had its first last night. 17-year-old boy shot dead in the hipster Plateau Mont-Royal. In the early evening. Not an area that typically sees violent crime. But hey, these are the 2020s.
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A shooting in le Plateau… Probably not a first, but those are still almost unheard of. I don’t want to be alarmist, but teenagers getting shot in Montreal is starting to become routine.
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Looking like a rare murder in Airdrie this week.

https://discoverairdrie.com/local/rc...ath-in-airdrie
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Ottawa had it's first of 2022 on Jan 3rd.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...n-russell-road
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 9:29 PM
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Prince Albert had a murder on Jan. 1, 2022 - https://www.mbcradio.com/2022/01/pri...omicide-victim

I think that the Murder Capital of Canada is going to be theirs for a few years - Thunder Bay of the early 2010s to 2020 was in the 5-10/100K range. 25-30 is crazy high.

Obviously, NS skewed badly in 2020 because of well, the worst mass murder in Canada in the past almost 50 years. But the rate in MB/SK is very high and will probably remain so for the next decade.

Oh, and Quebec City is at zero, ended at 4 for 2021 - someone was arrested for the double arson murder in December 2021.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-arre...city-1.5708487
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K-C-W had 8 in 2020 and 2 in 2021.
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K-C-W had 8 in 2020 and 2 in 2021.
Maybe none in 2022 based on this trajectory? *knocks on wood*
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Maybe none in 2022 based on this trajectory? *knocks on wood*
Unlikely, but time will tell. Despite the low homicide rate, K-C-W is above the provincial average for violent crime.
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9 homicides on 23 days? On pace for 140. Gun violence is really starting to get ugly in this country.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2022, 4:53 PM
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2 for Ottawa now.

I believe Montreal is still only at 1. Though there have been a number of shootings and injuries there, but not many deaths so far.
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Who gives a shit, that's the States not in Canada.
Exactly. We are so isolated from the rest of the world, the US is the only thing we can see. Many American cities are a mess. it should be no consolation we are doing better than American cities. Most of the world has safer cities than the US, except for maybe Africa and Latin America.

How are we doing compared to the UK, Asutralia, New Zealand, Germany, Nordic countries, Japan etc etc etc? Not that i care how those places are doing, but we might not be doing as good as we like to think when it comes to crime and violence.
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Random unprovoked stabbing in a Vancouver tim horton's earlier this week almost added another homicide to Vancouver.
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