WINNIPEG| The Exchange District |Market Lands Redevelopment

[bomberjet]

#1 is horrendous lol maybe just the rendering.

To add colour, everyone must be sprayed pink, blue, or yellow before entering.

[BAKGUY]

Originally Posted by T'Cona

Be vocal with CV because this is a disgrace of a design.

It looks okay but I thought this was to be a signature building that also sets precedent for the future buildings to rise after this? I like the glass etc but the lacklustre unimaginative rectangular box thing is a huge letdown

[BAKGUY]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

#1 is horrendous lol maybe just the rendering.

To add colour, everyone must be sprayed pink, blue, or yellow before entering.

LOL..I still rather that then Beige, greige gray.

[bomberjet]

I'm not against colour by any means. Just am leery we end up with something that's looks like trash in 10 years.

Like all the pink stucco houses. Why? Why pink?

[T'Cona]

When you look at what was submitted, on what planet is the rendering selected for the promo the best?

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by T'Cona

When you look at what was submitted, on what planet is the rendering selected for the promo the best?

Like everything developed in Winnipeg that involves government... follow the money. Somebody along the way is friends with somebody else.

[T'Cona]

No doubt eh? That would be the only possible conclusion.

[dam_well]

Originally Posted by BAKGUY

It looks okay but I thought this was to be a signature building that also sets precedent for the future buildings to rise after this? I like the glass etc but the lacklustre unimaginative rectangular box thing is a huge letdown

The more I think about this the more it bugs me. The exchange is significant for its heritage architecture. Development in the area should compliment that with something at least a little bit more creative. Especially this project involving CV who is especially interested in spurring more development.

[Wpg_Guy]

-The residential tower will operate on a net zero basis, it will produce as much energy as it consumes, a first of its kind (residential) in Canada, supported by 2.6M from the federal government.

-40M has been leveraged from government and other agencies for the residential competent of the project.

-CV has formed a new company with the University of Winnipeg Renewal Corporation who will be the operator of this project.

[T'Cona]

Originally Posted by dam_well

The more I think about this the more it bugs me. The exchange is significant for its heritage architecture. Development in the area should compliment that with something at least a little bit more creative. Especially this project involving CV who is especially interested in spurring more development.

An opportunity wasted.

[Labroco]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

-The residential tower will operate on a net zero basis, it will produce as much energy as it consumes, a first of its kind (residential) in Canada, supported by 2.6M from the federal government.

-40M has been leveraged from government and other agencies for the residential competent of the project.

-CV has formed a new company with the University of Winnipeg Renewal Corporation who will be the operator of this project.

Well if there is any silver lining to this is that it will be built and managed by University of Winnipeg Renewal Corporation. They will get it built and have a very good track record. I like their white buildings by the WAG.

The other thing I noticed in the financials was appraising the southern parcel at $6.2M. As a parking lot yes... as bare land I’m not so sure... Also not sure what the impact on assessing it at such a high number is. Will anyone be writing a cheque for the land or is it just a placeholder in the proforma?

[trueviking]

UWCRC will be a great partner. To be clear. All the programming specifically coordinated to attract available funding sources, pro forma planning, tenant procurement, grant applications, government coordination, and project management that has been done over the past year to leverage that huge amount of funding and to get the project ready for construction, was 100% done by Centre Venture.

I completely agree with the sentiments here that the building is far from a sexy landmark. It was my least favourite finalist in the competition. I was disappointed that it won and it didn’t get better, but CV skillfully leveraged a tiny civic contribution into a major project funded almost entirely through cobbling together a diverse series of funding sources.

We need to remember what’s important. This is not a typical developer project. It will be one of the most environmentally sustainable buildings in the entire country. It will provide high quality affordable housing in the downtown. The two bottom floors will be filled with dynamic, public facing arts groups brought together by CV in a new creative hub. The market building will be a focal point in the Exchange District that can open to spill out across the site. These are the important things that will make the project successful. I wish it looked better as a tower, no question, but I would way rather have a development that transforms the pedestrian experience, brings people together and becomes an exciting new attraction and source of creative energy in downtown, than a starchitect sculpture that looks good in a magazine.

[biguc]

I don't know what you people are flipping out about. It's a perfectly handsome building that will populate, frame, and activate a nice public space. My only reservation is what the north side will look like (is it a blank brick wall down to the ground).

[bomberjet]

I think it looks great and fits there area well. The north side is apartments with windows and such. There's a walkway prior to the other site.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by biguc

I don't know what you people are flipping out about. It's a perfectly handsome building that will populate, frame, and activate a nice public space. My only reservation is what the north side will look like (is it a blank brick wall down to the ground).

Ah it’s just Vike and Broc and the ol’ battle of the merits of Centreventure. It’s like watching Seinfeld reruns at this point. Charming and nostalgic, and you know it’s always gonna be there for you in times of boredom.

[bomberjet]

[Labroco]

⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️ On funding and housing.

(I still think it looks like the 60’s Regent Park towers currently being torn down in Toronto)

I’m much more optimistic all around on the New Ross Street / Paulin Bldg project if it is built in a similar fashion to the aspirational place holder imagery currently presented.

[biguc]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I think it looks great and fits there area well. The north side is apartments with windows and such. There's a walkway prior to the other site.

Sorry, I meant the west side. The east side has that cutaway and gallery space, but none of the renders I saw showed the Princess st. side. I'm worried it'll be a Winnipeg slab with a sheer wall of masonry.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Ah it’s just Vike and Broc and the ol’ battle of the merits of Centreventure. It’s like watching Seinfeld reruns at this point. Charming and nostalgic, and you know it’s always gonna be there for you in times of boredom.

love seinfeld....could still watch every episode!

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by biguc

Sorry, I meant the west side. The east side has that cutaway and gallery space, but none of the renders I saw showed the Princess st. side. I'm worried it'll be a Winnipeg slab with a sheer wall of masonry.

Ah, ya. It's probably got a stairwell with some windows. Otherwise it's the brick IIRC.

I would prefer these buildings not be covered in pink and green and whatever else. Look like trash. Just like the black stuff will in 5 or 10 years. If you link pink, the burbs have loads of pink stucco!