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Old Posted Jan 8, 2021, 7:04 AM
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Very nice pics. Thanks for sharing! I haven't see it yet! I'll check it out. Next time if I visit Tempe or downtown Phoenix. I can't go anywhere. Because too many criminals out there and too many homeless. I can't ride on a city bus anymore.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2021, 8:17 PM
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New photos of downtown on a rainy winter day

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Some progress photos from Friday. AC Hotel looks very close to done -- even landscaping is complete.

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Adeline



Aspire


Here PHX



Society Phoenix (Just before the second crane was removed)


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ASU Innovation Dorm


Downtown Skyline from north
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2021, 7:52 PM
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Shots of Downtown and Tempe from South mountain the other day:

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For perspective if you put both pictures next to each other you have somewhat of a Panorama of the city (with the airport taken out)
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New renderings of First McKinley courtesy of Crested:

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Have some nice new McKinley Green hi-res renderings for everyone. The name now appears to have been reverted back to First McKinley instead of McKinley Green, but I need to verify that. I have to say, this may turn out to be one of the best damn-looking residential developments in Downtown Phoenix. Love the look of the 7 levels of brick-façade fronting 2nd Ave.

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2021, 11:27 PM
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Recent shot of Adeline

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Old Posted Jan 29, 2021, 6:16 PM
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Fairly recent shot looking south including Downtown (background) and Midtown (foreground)

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View of Phoenix's newest cluster which is just outside the main core and is extending our skyline. Can't wait until our new tallest starts rising!


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Old Posted Jan 31, 2021, 4:20 PM
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View of Phoenix's newest cluster which is just outside the main core and is extending our skyline. Can't wait until our new tallest starts rising!
I would try a different link
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2021, 6:56 PM
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Photo update courtesy of Crested:

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Some update pics. ECO and Rey are both moving along now that the wood framing is going up.

Derby is putting up the forming for the 10th floor and finally starting to add some height to the area.

Aspire is on the 14th level and starting to be fairly noticeable in the skyline coming from the West on I-10.

X Society is starting to add glass on the midportion. Meh.

Here PHX and Link look like a seriously dense urban block.

Adeline is topped, but work continues on the roof/parapet portion, so should look slightly taller when completed.


ECO


the Rey


X Society


Aspire


Derby


Here PHX and Link


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Amazing updates, you guys are making me that much more enthusiastic about Phoenix as a relocation destination as I make plans for my next move.

I have been wondering something for a long time about Phoenix's local skyscraper history, as I despair about the ongoing height limits mandated by the FAA with respect to Sky Harbor. Is the Midtown area subject to the same restrictions? And if it is not, is it not conceivable that Midtown holds outsize potential for future growth, and for towers higher than 550'? From my perspective (again the disclaimer that I am as of yet an outsider), just the area from 7th to 7th and from Thomas to Indian School Roads is as large as the current downtown core and would therefore be regarded as the single best location for Phoenix to shift its urban core towards. There are many precedents for a similar elongated urban core between a city's downtown and midtown, like New York and Atlanta, to name a few. This to me seems like the only option for a fast-growing and urbanizing Phoenix that would like to add density and create a more iconic and dynamic profile. As a skyscraper enthusiast I am always looking for "well where can they build 100-story buildings, then?" and Phoenix is no exception. I imagine many of you share that sentiment, but what are the thoughts of locals and other frequent forumers?
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2021, 4:57 PM
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Amazing updates, you guys are making me that much more enthusiastic about Phoenix as a relocation destination as I make plans for my next move.

I have been wondering something for a long time about Phoenix's local skyscraper history, as I despair about the ongoing height limits mandated by the FAA with respect to Sky Harbor. Is the Midtown area subject to the same restrictions? And if it is not, is it not conceivable that Midtown holds outsize potential for future growth, and for towers higher than 550'? From my perspective (again the disclaimer that I am as of yet an outsider), just the area from 7th to 7th and from Thomas to Indian School Roads is as large as the current downtown core and would therefore be regarded as the single best location for Phoenix to shift its urban core towards. There are many precedents for a similar elongated urban core between a city's downtown and midtown, like New York and Atlanta, to name a few. This to me seems like the only option for a fast-growing and urbanizing Phoenix that would like to add density and create a more iconic and dynamic profile. As a skyscraper enthusiast I am always looking for "well where can they build 100-story buildings, then?" and Phoenix is no exception. I imagine many of you share that sentiment, but what are the thoughts of locals and other frequent forumers?
For the most part Midtown does not have as restrictive height limits as downtown as it is outside the flight path from Sky Harbor. Historically the tallest proposals in Phoenix have been in Midtown, but most of those have been pie-in-the-sky, and obviously none have been built. Basically all the towers in Midtown were built between 1960-1990, with almost nothing since. The area never really recovered from the S&L crisis. In the current re-urbanization, Midtown has mostly been filling in with the typical 5-story urban-ish apartment buildings that are going up all over the country. But there's a new Creighton University medical school and related buildings that are pushing in to the 10-ish story range, which is good, and could potentially be a catalyst for more. I'm with you that it would be fun to have huge towers in Midtown, but I personally wouldn't count on it anytime soon. The momentum is much greater downtown.
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Amazing updates, you guys are making me that much more enthusiastic about Phoenix as a relocation destination as I make plans for my next move.

I have been wondering something for a long time about Phoenix's local skyscraper history, as I despair about the ongoing height limits mandated by the FAA with respect to Sky Harbor. Is the Midtown area subject to the same restrictions? And if it is not, is it not conceivable that Midtown holds outsize potential for future growth, and for towers higher than 550'? From my perspective (again the disclaimer that I am as of yet an outsider), just the area from 7th to 7th and from Thomas to Indian School Roads is as large as the current downtown core and would therefore be regarded as the single best location for Phoenix to shift its urban core towards. There are many precedents for a similar elongated urban core between a city's downtown and midtown, like New York and Atlanta, to name a few. This to me seems like the only option for a fast-growing and urbanizing Phoenix that would like to add density and create a more iconic and dynamic profile. As a skyscraper enthusiast I am always looking for "well where can they build 100-story buildings, then?" and Phoenix is no exception. I imagine many of you share that sentiment, but what are the thoughts of locals and other frequent forumers?

As much as we bitch and moan about the height limits they are mostly non-existent beyond Vanburen (Roughly the middle of downtown) with no limitations as you go north.

Not a single building has butted up against the height limit so we cant really claim its done anything to stop height.... Yet

Not to mention the city is already battling to have them increased or at least further south, the core of downtown is a full 1/2 mile north of the northern runway the limits are a bit over the top.
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For the most part Midtown does not have as restrictive height limits as downtown as it is outside the flight path from Sky Harbor. Historically the tallest proposals in Phoenix have been in Midtown, but most of those have been pie-in-the-sky, and obviously none have been built. Basically all the towers in Midtown were built between 1960-1990, with almost nothing since. The area never really recovered from the S&L crisis. In the current re-urbanization, Midtown has mostly been filling in with the typical 5-story urban-ish apartment buildings that are going up all over the country. But there's a new Creighton University medical school and related buildings that are pushing in to the 10-ish story range, which is good, and could potentially be a catalyst for more. I'm with you that it would be fun to have huge towers in Midtown, but I personally wouldn't count on it anytime soon. The momentum is much greater downtown.
Midtown seems to be going down the path of the Texas Medical center with a rough focus on healthcare related stuff which is actually great for potential office demand down the road.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2021, 4:57 PM
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About our influx of Growth, I think this is an undercount, 83k is not much more than a normal year and there is no way that we havent had more influx than average.



Phoenix leads nation with biggest net inflow in 2020

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/r...nflow-in-2020/

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Nationwide, 27.8% of Redfin.com users looked to move to another metro area in 2020, according to a new report from Redfin (www.redfin.com), the technology-powered real estate brokerage. That’s up from 25.5% in 2019, a 9% year-over-year increase. The increase is driven by people leaving expensive coastal areas for relatively affordable places. And the city with the biggest net inflow of new residents in 2020 was Phoenix.

The uptick in migration is exacerbating the severe shortage of homes for sale in 2021. In December, supply was down a record 34% year over year nationwide. The supply of homes for sale is down by double digits from last year in all 10 of the nation’s most popular migration destinations, including Phoenix, Austin, Las Vegas and a handful of southeastern metros. Meanwhile, the only areas supply is up are the places people are leaving: the San Francisco Bay Area, New York and Los Angeles.

“People aren’t moving to places with more homes available to buy; they’re moving to places with more affordable homes to buy,” said Redfin chief economist Daryl Fairweather. “Remote workers leaving expensive places for relatively affordable areas, partly because the allure of more house for less money is strong, is exacerbating housing supply shortages in more affordable parts of the country. The inventory crunch in popular destinations could intensify over the next few years as remote workers continue to relocate and buy homes. If developers, zoning boards and local governments prioritize building homes in the affordable areas people are moving into as opposed to coastal cities, that would help combat the housing shortage.”



Relatively affordable southern and southwestern metros gained the most residents in 2020, and they all experienced double-digit supply drops

Phoenix gained roughly 80,000 new residents in 2020, a bigger net inflow than any other metro area. Next come Dallas, with a net inflow of 75,000, and Orlando, which welcomed 60,000 new residents. They’re followed by Tampa, Austin, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Greenville, SC, Charlotte and Knoxville.

Those are all relatively affordable areas, with the typical home selling for close to or less than the national median of $335,000. Southern metros dominate the most popular destinations, and they’re joined by two Southwestern places—Phoenix and Las Vegas—that are popular with people leaving coastal California.

The number of homes for sale in December was down by at least 16% from the year before in all 10 of the most popular migration destinations. Housing supply was down 18% year over year in Phoenix, 35.7% in Dallas and 16.3% in Orlando. Inventory was down in 83 of the 88 metros included in Redfin’s housing inventory analysis.

“Phoenix has always been popular with people moving in from out of state because of its beautiful landscape, warm weather and affordability, but 2020 was beyond anything I’ve ever seen,” said local Redfin agent Van Welborn. “Remote workers realize they can keep their high-paying jobs without paying California taxes, and they’re comparing what kind of home they can get in Phoenix versus Los Angeles or the Bay Area. I’m working with one couple moving here from the Bay Area and another from Seattle; neither of them would have been able to make the move if they weren’t working remotely. The couple from Seattle paid $800,000 for a big, beautiful house.”

“But even though Phoenix is affordable compared to other places, prices have risen significantly over the last year,” Welborn continued. “Locals are having a hard time getting their offers accepted because there are so few homes on the market, and often someone from California will put in a competing offer at a higher price and waive the appraisal.”

Seven of the top 10 destinations—Phoenix, Dallas, Austin, Las Vegas, Greenville, Charlotte and Knoxville—gained more residents in 2020 than any year in at least a decade. The other three—Orlando, Tampa and Atlanta—gained more residents than any year in the last decade except 2016.

With the number of building permits up from a year ago in all of the most popular destinations—except the ones in Florida, Orlando and Tampa—there is hope that more housing inventory is on the way. In Knoxville, there were 246.4% more building permits in the fourth quarter than the year before, the second-biggest increase of any metro (behind Omaha). Greenville (+95.8% YoY) and Las Vegas (+55.6%) also had particularly large increases.

But even with building permits up, some developers are having trouble keeping up with demand.

“People are moving into Charlotte from New York, New Jersey, Florida, Texas and other parts of the country,” said Charlotte Redfin agent Steve Cramer. “A lot of the moves are job-related, but another driving factor is that Charlotte has a lower cost of living and a slower pace of life than the Northeast. Partly because inventory here is painfully low, a lot of buyers are turning to new construction, but builders can’t keep up with demand. There’s a lot of vacant land for sale in the Charlotte area, but because of the pandemic, some builders are experiencing supply shortages. Instead of building an entire community or phase at a time, they’re limited to building four or five homes before releasing more homes for sale.”


The biggest cities in the country lost the most residents in 2020; New York, Los Angeles and the Bay Area are the only places where inventory rose year over year

Redfin estimates that New York lost roughly 275,000 residents to other metros in 2020, a bigger net outflow than any other metro in the U.S. It’s followed by Los Angeles, which had a net outflow of about 125,000 residents, and Chicago, which lost 110,000 residents. A net outflow means more people moved out of the metro than moved in, while a net inflow means more people moved into a metro than moved out. The estimate of net inflows and net outflows noted in Redfin’s analysis are based on data from Redfin.com and the U.S. Census Bureau.

New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are the three largest metro areas in the U.S, and New York and Los Angeles are home to some of the most expensive real estate in the country. Although Chicago’s median home price is relatively low, all three places are major employment centers with a lot of white-collar jobs that are conducive to remote work.

“For the past two years I’ve felt like everyone is leaving Los Angeles, and that has intensified during the pandemic,” said Los Angeles Redfin agent Lindsay Katz. “More than half of my sellers are moving to a different area. A lot of young families are moving back to their hometowns to be near their parents, moves they can now make because they’re working remotely. People are realizing that if they leave Los Angeles and move to a place like the Midwest or Florida, they can afford to live on just one income because their mortgage is cut in half and tax bills are lower.”

Those cities are followed by the Bay Area—which lost roughly 45,000 residents in 2020—Detroit, Seattle, Boston, Miami, Washington, D.C. and Baton Rouge, LA, a list that includes several other expensive coastal cities with many companies that offer remote work.

Although the country as a whole is facing a drastic housing supply shortage, three of the four metros that lost the most residents in 2020—New York, Los Angeles and the Bay Area—saw year-over-year increases in the number of homes for sale. They were the only metros in the U.S. where supply rose.

The number of homes for sale in New York increased 27.7% year over year in December, and in Los Angeles it increased 1.4%. In San Francisco, supply rose 76.7% from the year before, a far bigger increase than any other metro, and in San Jose and Oakland—two other Bay Area metros—supply was up 24.6% and 7.6%, respectively.

Supply was down in Seattle, Boston and Washington, D.C., but the year-over-year drops (-7.9%, -7.7%, -5%) were smaller than nearly every other U.S. metro.
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Some Shots of Tempe and its growth



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Pretty awesome aerial looking west of Tempe in the foreground with downtown/midtown Phoenix in background courtesy of CB1

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Not to mention the city is already battling to have them increased or at least further south, the core of downtown is a full 1/2 mile north of the northern runway the limits are a bit over the top.
That is correct. They cannot go higher floors. Due to height restrictions. Only 40 floors or below. They cannot go up to 50 or 60 floors. City of Phoenix won't let do that.
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That is correct. They cannot go higher floors. Due to height restrictions. Only 40 floors or below. They cannot go up to 50 or 60 floors. City of Phoenix won't let do that.
As I said though there has not been a single project to ever challenge the height limits.

Downtown Phoenix could easily have 50, 60 and 70+ story buildings (Especially on the north end of downtown) but we have never even come close to needing it.....yet
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Photo Updates from TODAY!

Photo Updates from TODAY!

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Happy Friday guys. Was in downtown this morning and thought I could start pulling my weight here again with some photo updates. See below!

Creighton Medical



Millennium Park Central Apts


Aura Midtown


One Camelback


Toll Brothers on Indian School


ASU housing


Aspire Fillmore


The Rey


The Fillmore


X Social


Kinect With future Central Station in the foreground


Thunderbird


Derby


Link Phase 2


Wexford Biomedical


Broadstone Portland
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New Construction Pics from March 9th

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DERBY looking northwest from 2nd St


LINK PHASE 2 looking northwest from 5th St


THE FILLMORE AND ASPIRE FILLMORE looking east on Fillmore St


ASPIRE FILLMORE looking west on 2nd Ave
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